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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 15:56 
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I want to hear from:

@ Zeppo: Please confirm whether you invested or donated last night

@Mr Russell: Please confirm WHO you stole from.

@KovacsC, Curio, Bobby: Which one of you stole from DazPav?

Then I can wrap my spreadsheet up.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 15:56 
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British Nervoso wrote:
Grim... wrote:
you donating to Craster

Ok, now you're making things up.

Oh yeah, apologies.

Still, why is it okay for you to move money around rather than creating it, and not me?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 15:58 
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Grim... wrote:
Still, why is it okay for you to move money around rather than creating it, and not me?

I have made money two nights out of three and will continue to contribute to the townie cause. What exactly are you contributing to?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 15:59 
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Saturnalian wrote:
I want to hear from:

@ Zeppo: Please confirm whether you invested or donated last night

@Mr Russell: Please confirm WHO you stole from.

@KovacsC, Curio, Bobby: Which one of you stole from DazPav?

Then I can wrap my spreadsheet up.


I stole from sdg.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 15:59 
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Grim... wrote:
Still, why is it okay for you to move money around rather than creating it, and not me?

Whether you're town or mafia, you are no good for the town. So I vote to get rid of you.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 16:05 
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I invested, I shall continue to invest. I see no point in "what ifs" of theft from the mafia, I can't win if I have no money.

And frankly, if I were going to steal I would take more than 100, otherwise, what is the point?


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 16:07 
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Mr Russell wrote:
I stole from sdg.


Thought so. That must mean Zeppo donated - we'll see if he agrees later.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 16:16 
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Saturnalian wrote:
@ Zeppo: Please confirm whether you invested or donated last night


I donated 50 to Cras.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 16:16 
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Bobbyaro wrote:
And frankly, if I were going to steal I would take more than 100, otherwise, what is the point?


Exactly. That's why Grim... targetted British Nervoso as he was one of those with the most money. He didn't anticipate BN off-loading some cash that night though.

That's what makes Grim... so suspect. He's clearly trying to hide in plain sight by being very vocal about stealing. If you let him get away with it he can just use the argument "Yeah, but I said I was a bit of a bugger, didn't I?" Plus, he clearly tried to muddy the waters with Cras and BN earlier when he's the kind of player who always knows the rules. This makes his little attempt to point fingers at Cras and BN a bit suspect in my eyes. And even if he is Town, which I doubt at this stage, his actions are entirely anti-town. We all want to win for self but we still need a town win first and foremost.

Mind you, whoever stole from DavPaz was obviously doing it for the LULZ.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 16:17 
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Zeppo wrote:
I donated 50 to Cras.


That was a bit daft. What's that about then?


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 16:21 
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Saturnalian wrote:
That was a bit daft. What's that about then?


Not particularly. 50 will be chump change later in the game, when people are stealing 200-300 from each other in one night action. My goal at the moment is to stay in the game and not present too much of a target.

I donated to the player with the least money because it seems doubtful they're mafia, unless its a clever rouse.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 16:42 
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British Nervoso wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Still, why is it okay for you to move money around rather than creating it, and not me?

I have made money two nights out of three and will continue to contribute to the townie cause. What exactly are you contributing to?

The townie cause. Taking money from GazChap has meant it has stayed in the townie's coffers, and not gone with him TO THE GRAVE!
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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 17:27 
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Saturnalian wrote:
I want to hear from:

@ Zeppo: Please confirm whether you invested or donated last night

@Mr Russell: Please confirm WHO you stole from.

@KovacsC, Curio, Bobby: Which one of you stole from DazPav?

Then I can wrap my spreadsheet up.


I invested

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 17:41 
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SUMMARY OF UNREFRUITTABLE FRUITY FRACTS:

1) British Nervoso DONATES £100 to Saturnalian.
2) Zeppo DONATES £50 to Cras.
3) Mr Russell STEAL from sdg.
5) Grim... STEAL from British Nervoso.
6) Curio STEAL from DavPaz
7) KovacsC, Bobby, DavPaz and Saturnalian all INVESTS.
8) Cras NO ACTION.

Let's contrast these FACTS with what else we know:-

VOTED FOR GAZCHAP (CONFIRMED TOWNIE):

Zeppo, Cras, British Nervoso, Bobbyaro, KovacsC, Grim..., DavPaz

I would kindly suggest that someone in LIST A who STOLE/DONATED and that same someone in LIST B is Mafia. At least ONE, maybe more.

People on both lists who STOLE:

Grim...

People on both lists who DONATED:

Zeppo, British Nervoso


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 17:47 
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I may regret asking, but why is donating considered being considered shady?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 18:07 
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Erm, it's not a great thing to be doing, right? You're passign money off to stay in the game with the intention of stealing it off someone later. It's not exactly giving the impression that you're a good samaritan working for the town.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 18:16 
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I'm a townie, so staying in the game is obviously in the town's interests!

Investing for the town is all well and good, but the more money is in the game at crunch time (i.e. the last one or two mafia vs the last few townies) the more difficult it will be for the town, because stealing will become so f***ing powerful. So much so that introducing money at this point feels like making the end-game more volatile.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:42 
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Well, we've got until 2pm, so I guess I'd better stick my money where my mouth is regarding my "list of rich people from last night", and Saturnalian is being too funny with his pictures to vote off, so choosing randomly from the other three gives me...

Not Myp, irritatingly.

[vote:mr russell]

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 13:13 
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Come on, people, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE. Or not.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 13:16 
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Saturnalian wrote:
Come on, people, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE. Or not.

No, do.

But don't agree with him, he's wrong.

Actually, why are you voting for me, Sat?

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 13:31 
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[vote: Grim...] as he is stealing and we have nothign else to go on

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 13:45 
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KovacsC wrote:
[vote: Grim...] as he is stealing and we have nothign else to go on

Still not convinced that stealing is bad.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 13:46 
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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 13:49 
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You're gathering all the town's money in one place, which just makes it easier for the mafia to steal it. Stealing off the mafia would be fine, but statistically that's less likely.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Clearly the problem is that people aren't stealing off me, then.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 14:10 
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I can help with that.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 14:21 
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Cras wrote:
You're gathering all the town's money in one place, which just makes it easier for the mafia to steal it. Stealing off the mafia would be fine, but statistically that's less likely.


I think that if the Mafia get the majority they are likely to win, as they can coordinate (depending on numbers) and make sure they steal off different people on the last night to maximise profits.

So we need to kill them.

Would be hilarious if there was no actual Mafia players, and Troop was just killing off people one a day at random :D

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 14:21 
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And I'll vote for either Grim or Russ if it helps to get a lynch.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Shit, 2pm?

[vote:Grim...]

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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And I'll vote for either Grim or Russ if it helps to get a lynch.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 14:32 
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You're doing it wrong, dicks.

And don't be sitting around tomorrow trying to placate yourselves with "oh, it was Grim...'s fault that we killed him because of all the stealing" because that's rubbish. It's because you're all shit.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Except for the ones that didn't vote for me. You're cool.

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 14:59 
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[vote:Grim...]

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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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Grim... Was a townie, dicks.

Night actions to me by 7pm Sunday please.


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 Post subject: Re: CapitalistScum Day 4
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