Be Excellent To Each Other

And, you know, party on. Dude.

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Reply to topic  [ 358 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next

How much do you expect you'll spend on games & consoles in 2013?
£0 - £1 - Yar, yar and/or freeware for me yo. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
£1 - £50 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
£50 - £100 24%  24%  [ 7 ]
£100 - £200 (~£12.50/month) 17%  17%  [ 5 ]
£200 - £300 10%  10%  [ 3 ]
£300 - £400 17%  17%  [ 5 ]
£400 - £600 (~£50/month) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
£600 - £800 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
£800 - £1000 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
£1000 - £1200 (~£100/month) 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
£1200 - £1500 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
£1500 - £2000 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
£2000 - £mental 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 29
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 23:44 
SupaMod
User avatar
"Praisebot"

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 17093
Location: Parts unknown
I have bought these...

Space Jam
Ace Combat 3
Dancing Stage Disney Mix
Ridge Racer V
Fantavision
What's Shenmue?
F355 Challenge Passione Rossa
Paper Mario Sticker Star

Which came to <32.16>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:02 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
<1.99> on Riptide GP 2 for Android and <1.93> on more hidden object adventure nonsense. Riptide 2 will undoubtedly be gorgeous and will play well but hopefully they'll have sorted out the structure of the game. In the original, once you'd got gold on a course at any CC, it was just marked as done so you had no way of telling which level you'd won that course at which was a pretty glaring oversight.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 16:51 

Joined: 7th Nov, 2008
Posts: 2306
More to add (lowers head in shame)

Wii Pro Controller Wii <12.99>
Xenoblade Chronicles Wii <29.99>
Minecraft 360 Xbox 360 <13.99>
Army of Two Devils Cartel Xbox 360 <14.00>
Last of Us PS3 <20.00>
YuGiOh Wii <13.99>
N64 Games N64 <40.00>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 23:41 
SupaMod
User avatar
"Praisebot"

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 17093
Location: Parts unknown
The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword <9.91>
Pac-Man Neo Geo Pocket Colour <5.51>
Puzzle Bobble Mini Neo Geo Pocket Colour <5.50>
Resident Evil Revelations 3DS <13.27>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 13:20 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
<27> on a new PS3 controller. Fuck sake.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:46 
User avatar
ugvm'er at heart...

Joined: 4th Mar, 2010
Posts: 22391
<3.02> Origin humble bundle


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 14:33 
User avatar
Sleepyhead

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 27354
Location: Kidbrooke
<2.99> to remove ads on Stick Cricket

_________________
We are young despite the years
We are concern
We are hope, despite the times


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:14 
User avatar
ugvm'er at heart...

Joined: 4th Mar, 2010
Posts: 22391
<-351.03> Cancelled PS4 pre-order. I'm hardly playing any games at the moment, and have a backlog on the PC a mile long, so that can wait.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:16 
User avatar
UltraMod

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55719
Location: California
Trooper wrote:
<-351.03> Cancelled PS4 pre-order. I'm hardly playing any games at the moment, and have a backlog on the PC a mile long, so that can wait.

Technically you hadn't bought it anyway.

I'm in two minds at the moment. I'll probably hover over the cancel button a few times before November.

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:55 

Joined: 7th Nov, 2008
Posts: 2306
I'll still go for the PS4 - can't be playing Watch_Dogs or AC4 on the 360/PS3.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:41 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
<1.99> on Tiny Thief for Android. Eurogamer's summary of it ("Stealth meets hidden object puzzle meets point-and-click adventure in a genre hybrid bursting with charm.") makes it sounds right up my alley so hopefully it's good.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 17:37 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
<3.15> on Kairo for Android. It's a difficult to describe explore-em-up that's been on my list for the PC since I enjoyed the demo a while back and I just noticed it pop up on android so couldn't resist grabbing it for tablet gaming in bed. It's an incredibly atmospheric games with a really distinctive look. More details here:

http://kairo.lockeddoorpuzzle.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 17:39 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
Also, it turns out Tiny Thief is excellent; charming as all fuck and great fun so comes highly recommended.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 13:53 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
In case anyone gives a shit: it turns out the control for Kairo are fucking awful just like they are for the iOS version so it's a bit difficult to control. It's a bizarre control method and smacks of utter laziness on the part of the developers so fuck them; don't buy it.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 14:52 
User avatar
Sleepyhead

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 27354
Location: Kidbrooke
<1.99> on Tiny Thief, based on Bamba's recommendation.

_________________
We are young despite the years
We are concern
We are hope, despite the times


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 20:24 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
<0.89> on Momonga Pinball Adventures for Android.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 16:14 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
<1.28> on some hidden object adventure nonsense for Android.


Last edited by Grim... on Fri Aug 30, 2013 16:21, edited 1 time in total.
Fixed link


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 13:38 

Joined: 7th Nov, 2008
Posts: 2306
<10> Lego Batman 2 (360)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:07 

Joined: 7th Nov, 2008
Posts: 2306
<7> Portal 2
<12.50> Dead Island Riptide
<22.99> Splinter Cell Blacklist


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:59 
SupaMod
User avatar
"Praisebot"

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 17093
Location: Parts unknown
Star Fox Assault <26.00>
Sonic Riders <1.00>
Rabbids Rumble <5.00>
Kingdom Hearts 3D Dream Drop Distance <5.00>
Rayman 3D <10.00>
Super Princess Peach <11.37>
Collapse <0.79>
Saints Row IV <19.99>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:24 
User avatar
Unpossible!

Joined: 27th Jun, 2008
Posts: 38651
http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/c ... sh2013.php

Blimey. Some big numbers so far.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:30 

Joined: 7th Nov, 2008
Posts: 2306
Yep and it is only going to get worse if I go through with my PS4 pre-order.
Tis ok though because gaming is truly my only one vice.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:31 
SupaMod
User avatar
Commander-in-Cheese

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 49244
You should diversify. I've got fucking loads.

_________________
GoddessJasmine wrote:
Drunk, pulled Craster's pork, waiting for brdyime story,reading nuts. Xz


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:32 

Joined: 7th Nov, 2008
Posts: 2306
I'll probably either die or go bankrupt if I did that.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:35 
User avatar
Skillmeister

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 27023
Location: Felelagedge Wedgebarge, The River Tib
<£135> GTA V, AssCree4, Watch Dogs, Batman Arkham Origins
<£30> Marvel Lego
<£15> Need for Speed Most Burnout
<£100> Animal Crossing, Mario Kart 7, Donky Kong thingy, Luigi's mansion 2

_________________
Washing Machine: Fine. Kettle: Needs De-scaling. Shower: Brand new. Boiler: Fine.
Archimedes Hotdog Rhubarb Niner Zero Niner.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:50 
User avatar
UltraMod

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55719
Location: California
Dimrill wrote:
<£135> GTA V, AssCree4, Watch Dogs, Batman Arkham Origins
<£30> Marvel Lego
<£15> Need for Speed Most Burnout
<£100> Animal Crossing, Mario Kart 7, Donky Kong thingy, Luigi's mansion 2

Windfall?

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:51 
User avatar
Skillmeister

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 27023
Location: Felelagedge Wedgebarge, The River Tib
Nope, just updating the last six months of orders.

_________________
Washing Machine: Fine. Kettle: Needs De-scaling. Shower: Brand new. Boiler: Fine.
Archimedes Hotdog Rhubarb Niner Zero Niner.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:51 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
DavPaz wrote:
http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/cash2013.php

Blimey. Some big numbers so far.


I dunno, only a few people have gone above the £300 mark with the vast majority of folks sitting under 100. Considering the number of hours of entertainment gaming provides I think that's a ludicrously low amount of money to spend.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:52 
SupaMod
User avatar
"Praisebot"

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 17093
Location: Parts unknown
SilentElk wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
<£135> GTA V, AssCree4, Watch Dogs, Batman Arkham Origins
<£30> Marvel Lego
<£15> Need for Speed Most Burnout
<£100> Animal Crossing, Mario Kart 7, Donky Kong thingy, Luigi's mansion 2

Windfall?


Is that on the Xbox or PS3?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:40 
User avatar
ugvm'er at heart...

Joined: 4th Mar, 2010
Posts: 22391
<16.31> Cardhunter basic edition


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 14:46 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
<1.99> on Reaper for Android.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:52 
SupaMod
User avatar
"Praisebot"

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 17093
Location: Parts unknown
A Boy and his blob <17.92>
GTA Chinatown Wars <10.50>

Not sure what's gone on there. A bit more than I would normally pay for games.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 14:03 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 69713
Location: Your Mum
Bamba wrote:
<1.99> on Reaper for Android.

Is it any good?

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 16:53 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
Grim... wrote:
Bamba wrote:
<1.99> on Reaper for Android.

Is it any good?


It started off really good, but shortly after you hit the level cap for the free version the difficulty really spikes. The last couple of random encounters have been a total nightmare and I've ended up just having to avoid fighting which sucks. They throw an absolute shitload of enemies at you, all with different attack patterns some of which can't really be avoided, and add in background hazards that sap your energy completely which makes it into a bit of a grind. I'm going to persevere a bit with it but if stays as frustrating as it is right now then it'll be getting uninstalled. This could just be me being shite though of course and you get a generous amount of gameplay before you need to unlock the full game so it's worth giving it a shot to see what you think.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 17:36 

Joined: 23rd Sep, 2010
Posts: 729
Kept for forgetting to update this thing.

Humble Deep Silver Bundle <£3.50>
Humble Origin Bundle <£4.00>
Fallout 3: GOTY <£6.00>
Bioshock 2 <£5.00>
Hitman HD Trilogy <£15.00>
Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate <£14.00>
Saints Row 4 <£36.99>
PS+ <£12.99>

So, 97 quid in all.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 18:43 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 69713
Location: Your Mum
Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Bamba wrote:
<1.99> on Reaper for Android.

Is it any good?


It started off really good, but shortly after you hit the level cap for the free version the difficulty really spikes. The last couple of random encounters have been a total nightmare and I've ended up just having to avoid fighting which sucks. They throw an absolute shitload of enemies at you, all with different attack patterns some of which can't really be avoided, and add in background hazards that sap your energy completely which makes it into a bit of a grind. I'm going to persevere a bit with it but if stays as frustrating as it is right now then it'll be getting uninstalled. This could just be me being shite though of course and you get a generous amount of gameplay before you need to unlock the full game so it's worth giving it a shot to see what you think.

So you paid after the level cap, I assume?

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 18:47 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
Grim... wrote:
Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Bamba wrote:
<1.99> on Reaper for Android.

Is it any good?


It started off really good, but shortly after you hit the level cap for the free version the difficulty really spikes. The last couple of random encounters have been a total nightmare and I've ended up just having to avoid fighting which sucks. They throw an absolute shitload of enemies at you, all with different attack patterns some of which can't really be avoided, and add in background hazards that sap your energy completely which makes it into a bit of a grind. I'm going to persevere a bit with it but if stays as frustrating as it is right now then it'll be getting uninstalled. This could just be me being shite though of course and you get a generous amount of gameplay before you need to unlock the full game so it's worth giving it a shot to see what you think.

So you paid after the level cap, I assume?


Yeah, I was thoroughly enjoying it up to that point to be fair so I'm hoping I can get back into it but it's pretty frustrating at the moment.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 13:14 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
<0.66> for a new level pack in Nonocube for Android.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 14:39 
8-Bit Champion
User avatar
Two heads are better than one

Joined: 16th Apr, 2008
Posts: 14517
<35> - GTAV

&

<20> - SRIV


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 14:51 
User avatar
ugvm'er at heart...

Joined: 4th Mar, 2010
Posts: 22391
<38> GTA V


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 15:37 

Joined: 7th Nov, 2008
Posts: 2306
<20.99> Rayman Origins


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:35 
User avatar
Gogmagog

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 48897
Location: Cheshire
<39> GTA V

_________________
Mr Chris wrote:
MaliA isn't just the best thing on the internet - he's the best thing ever.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:38 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
<1.86> on odd looking but well-received anti-censorship text puzzle thingy Black Bar for Android.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:17 

Joined: 7th Nov, 2008
Posts: 2306
<35> GTA V


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:18 
User avatar
Bad Girl

Joined: 20th Apr, 2008
Posts: 14416
Bamba wrote:
<1.86> on odd looking but well-received anti-censorship text puzzle thingy Black Bar for Android.


That looks interesting. TWO QUID on iPhones. TWO QUID. I might get it. For TWO QUID.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:28 
User avatar
UltraMod

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 55719
Location: California
Saturnalian wrote:
Bamba wrote:
<1.86> on odd looking but well-received anti-censorship text puzzle thingy Black Bar for Android.


That looks interesting. TWO QUID on iPhones. TWO QUID. I might get it. For TWO QUID.

Too much of a premium price for me. Let me know when it's £0.01.

_________________
I am currently under construction.
Thank you for your patience.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 13:16 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
<3> on Papo & Yo for the PC.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 19:09 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
<5.57> on Guacamelee for the PS3.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 23:23 
SupaMod
User avatar
"Praisebot"

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 17093
Location: Parts unknown
Snowboard Kids DS <6.00>
Gun Valkyrie Xbox <5.99>
Rayman Legends Xbox 360 <20.99>
Golden Axe: Beast Rider Xbox 360 <3.91>
Don't Panic. Seaman Dreamcast <8.03>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: WongaWatch - The Grand Game Expenditure Thread 2013
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:25 
User avatar
Excellent Member

Joined: 25th Jul, 2010
Posts: 11128
<7.99> on The Stanley Parable.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 358 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Columbo, PRISM and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search within this thread:
You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
Want to help out with the hosting / advertising costs? That's very nice of you.
Are you on a mobile phone? Try http://beex.co.uk/m/
RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC. RIP, Dimmers.

Powered by a very Grim... version of phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.