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 Post subject: Re: Thatcher for Beginners
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 16:03 
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ElephantBanjoGnome wrote:
Yeah, if someone is poor, never tries to better themselves, and remains poor forever, that clearly can't be their fault. It's all down to the inequality in society. *nods*


What about the vastly larger group of people who do try to 'better themselves', but still end up poor?

The amount of welfare given to people in employment is incredibly high (by contrast, 3% of welfare is JSA), mainly because companies have raced to the bottom and jobs no longer pay enough to live on.

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 Post subject: Re: Thatcher for Beginners
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My God... when did I become such a lefty?

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 Post subject: Re: Thatcher for Beginners
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 Post subject: Re: Thatcher for Beginners
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 16:31 
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Curiosity wrote:
What about the vastly larger group of people who do try to 'better themselves', but still end up poor

They're rich in self-respect.

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 Post subject: Re: Thatcher for Beginners
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Curiosity wrote:
The amount of welfare given to people in employment is incredibly high (by contrast, 3% of welfare is JSA), mainly because companies have raced to the bottom and jobs no longer pay enough to live on.

Pensions makes up the bulk of it, doesn't it? 46%, or something.

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 Post subject: Re: Thatcher for Beginners
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Curiosity wrote:
The amount of welfare given to people in employment is incredibly high (by contrast, 3% of welfare is JSA), mainly because companies have raced to the bottom and jobs no longer pay enough to live on.

Pensions makes up the bulk of it, doesn't it? 46%, or something.


Something along those lines, and unless something changes radically, then that will keep on increasing.

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 Post subject: Re: Thatcher for Beginners
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Citizens' Income. That's the only solution.

And sort out the horrifically bad inequality of opportunity in the UK. It's like we're heading back to a feudalistic caste system.


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We need to take Argentina.

It's what she would have wanted.

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The Argentinian president should have been invited to the funeral, just for the hell of it.


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I blame Thatcher for builders taking cocaine in the toilets of the pub I was in earlier. On a thursday.

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 Post subject: Re: Thatcher for Beginners
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 14:44 
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Fun quiz!

"How Thatcherite are you?"

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30% apparently. However, for every single answer I really wanted a "none of the above" option, as none of them were close enough to what I wanted to say.


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