Rocksmith

Joans · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8655

Apart from a brief mention in Bits and Bobs over 12 months ago, we don't seem to have mentioned this. It is, basically, Guitar Hero (just guitar, although bass is supposed to be coming in DLC), but with a real guitar, and in theory, the game can be played by anyone, regardless of whether or not you've actually touched a real guitar or not, as it's supposed to adapt to how well you can play songs, and expects you to get better over a long period, as opposed to throwing one song at you until you can play it perfectly. It also makes you learn the basics through a series of mini games.

The setlist ,as shamelessly copied from wikipedia, has got me interested

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"House of the Rising Sun" The Animals 1964
"When I'm with You" Best Coast 2010
"I Got Mine" The Black Keys 2008
"Next Girl" The Black Keys 2010
"Song 2" Blur 1997
"Step Out of the Car" The Boxer Rebellion 2011
"Sunshine of Your Love" Cream 1967
"We Share the Same Skies" The Cribs 2009
"Boys Don't Cry" The Cure 1979
"I Want Some More" Dan Auerbach 2009
"Rebel Rebel" David Bowie 1974
"I Can't Hear You" The Dead Weather 2010
"Run Back to Your Side" Eric Clapton 2010
"Take Me Out" Franz Ferdinand 2004
"Do You Remember" The Horrors 2009
"I Miss You" Incubus 1999
"Slow Hands"[9] Interpol 2004
"Angela" Jarvis Cocker 2009
"Well OK Honey" Jenny O 2010
"Use Somebody" Kings of Leon 2008
"Are You Gonna Go My Way" Lenny Kravitz 1993
"Surf Hell" Little Barrie 2011
"Sweet Home Alabama" Lynyrd Skynyrd 1974
"Unnatural Selection" Muse 2009
"Plug In Baby" Muse 2001
"In Bloom" Nirvana 1991
"Breed" Nirvana 1991
"Where is My Mind?" Pixies 1988
"Go With the Flow" Queens of the Stone Age 2002
"High and Dry" Radiohead 1995
"California Brain" RapScallions 2011
"Number Thirteen" Red Fang 2011
"Higher Ground" Red Hot Chilli Peppers 1989
"(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction"[10] The Rolling Stones 1965
"The Spider and the Fly" The Rolling Stones 1965
"Play with Fire" The Rolling Stones 1965
"Gobbledigook" Sigur Rós 2008
"Panic Switch" Silversun Pickups 2009
"Outshined" Soundgarden 1991
"Me and the Bean" Spoon 2001
"Between the Lines" Stone Temple Pilots 2010
"Vasoline" Stone Temple Pilots 1994
"Under Cover of Darkness" The Strokes 2011
"Mean Bitch" Taddy Porter 2010
"A More Perfect Union" Titus Andronicus 2010
"Good Enough" Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers 2010
"Slither" Velvet Revolver 2004
"Burnished" White Denim 2011
"Icky Thump" The White Stripes 2007
"Islands" The xx 2009
"Chimney" The Yellow Moon Band 2009

as has the currently available DLC.

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"Free Bird" Lynyrd Skynyrd 1973 Rock Hits 1 Nov. 1, 2011
"Bodysnatchers" Radiohead 2007 Rock Hits 1 Nov. 1, 2011
"Tighten Up" The Black Keys 2010 Rock Hits 1 Nov. 1, 2011
"Smoke on the Water" Deep Purple 1972 Rock Hits 70s Nov. 15, 2011
"More than a Feeling" Boston 1976 Rock Hits 70s Nov. 15, 2011
"Jessica" The Allman Brothers Band 1973 Rock Hits 70s Nov. 15, 2011
"Cousins" Vampire Weekend 2010 Rock Hits 2 Nov. 29, 2011
"20th Century Boy" T. Rex 1973 Rock Hits 2 Nov. 29, 2011
"I Hate Everything About You" Three Days Grace 2004 Rock Hits 2 Nov. 29, 2011
"Symphony of Destruction" Megadeth 1992 Megadeth Song Pack Dec. 13, 2011
"Hangar 18" Megadeth 1990 Megadeth Song Pack Dec. 13, 2011
"Public Enemy No. 1" Megadeth 2011 Megadeth Song Pack Dec. 13, 2011
"Carol of the Bells" Seth Chapla 2011 Holiday Song Pack Dec. 20, 2011
"God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen" Brian Adam McCune 2011 Holiday Song Pack Dec. 20, 2011
"We Three Kings" Versus Them 2011 Holiday Song Pack Dec. 20, 2011
“Just Got To Be” The Black Keys 2006 The Black Keys Song Pack Dec. 27, 2011
“Mind Eraser” The Black Keys 2011 The Black Keys Song Pack Dec. 27, 2011
“Gold On The Ceiling” The Black Keys 2011 The Black Keys Song Pack Dec. 27, 2011
"(Don't Fear) The Reaper” Blue Öyster Cult 1976 Rock Hits 60s-70s Jan. 17, 2012
"Space Oddity” David Bowie 1969 Rock Hits 60s-70s Jan. 17, 2012
"Barracuda” Heart 1977 Rock Hits 60s-70s Jan. 17, 2012
"Jeremy" Pearl Jam 1991 Pearl Jam Song Pack Feb. 7, 2012
"Black" Pearl Jam 1991 Pearl Jam Song Pack Feb. 7, 2012
"Dammit" Blink-182 1997 Blink-182 Song Pack Feb. 21, 2012
"All The Small Things" Blink-182 2000 Blink-182 Song Pack Feb. 21, 2012
"What's My Age Again?" Blink-182 1999 Blink-182 Song Pack Feb. 21, 2012
"Kryptonite" 3 Doors Down 2000 3 Doors Down Song Pack Mar. 6, 2012
"Loser" 3 Doors Down 2000 3 Doors Down Song Pack Mar. 6, 2012
"When I'm Gone" 3 Doors Down 2002 3 Doors Down Song Pack Mar. 6, 2012
"The Thrill is Gone" B.B. King 1969 Blues Hits Mar. 20, 2012
"Born Under a Bad Sign" Albert King with Stevie Ray Vaughan 1967 Blues Hits Mar. 20, 2012
"Soul Man" The Blues Brothers 1978 Blues Hits Mar. 20, 2012
"Bring Me to Life" Evanescence 2003 Rock Hits 3 Apr. 3, 2012
"Pumped Up Kicks" Foster the People 2011 Rock Hits 3 Apr. 3, 2012
"This Love" Maroon 5 2002 Rock Hits 3 Apr. 3, 2012
"Breaking the Law" Judas Priest 1980 Judas Priest Song Pack Apr. 17, 2012
"Living After Midnight" Judas Priest 1980 Judas Priest Song Pack Apr. 17, 2012
"Painkiller" Judas Priest 1990 Judas Priest Song Pack Apr. 17, 2012

As someone that seems to have lost interest in games in general recently, and has never picked up a non-plastic guitar, I'm interested enough in this to throw some money at it (it's not cheap, $80 in the US, because you need an adaptor, and that's assuming you've got access to a guitar), but unfortunately, there's the problem. The game has been out (on PS3 and 360) for about 6 months in North America, but currently the UK release date is sitting at October, nearly a full year after the original release (apparently, there's a band from Southend with the same name, and I heard something about some sort of patent issue, but I don't know which of those, if either, is the cause of the delay). The 360 version isn't region free, but the PS3 one is, although you'll have to use a US account to purchase the DLC.

I guess I'll have to see if the novelty has worn off in six months (assuming it does come out then).

devilman · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 8:50

I've noticed one or two copies of this appearing on Ebay as I've been browsing and I hadn't really heard much about this either. It's something I'd probably get though. The main track list doesn't really appeal, but there are some good DLC tracks there at least. I don't have a guitar either though, so it could get rather expensive.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26095

devilman wrote:

I've noticed one or two copies of this appearing on Ebay as I've been browsing and I hadn't really heard much about this either. It's something I'd probably get though. The main track list doesn't really appeal, but there are some good DLC tracks there at least. I don't have a guitar either though, so it could get rather expensive.

wait... So, what, do you plug in an actual guitar? What, do you mean via electric guitar output to the 360 via some kind of adaptor?

myp · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 9:07

I think I'd prefer to pick up the Rock Band 3 pro guitar, in all honesty.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26095

Also, it sounds like a game about stonemasonry.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26095

myp wrote:

I think I'd prefer to pick up the Rock Band 3 pro guitar, in all honesty.

I don't know, they sound like quite different things. Doesn't the rock band 3 pro guitar have a button for each string on each fret rather than actual strings? I know that's teaching finger placement by way of patterns, but not how the strings actually feel and respond. If this works it could be a more useful teaching tool than game. I guess it depend what you wanted to get out of it.

Also, rock band 3 and the pro guitar would require you buying a pro guitar, whereas you already have a guitar, so the layout would be significantly less.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26095

Mimi wrote:

Also, it sounds like a game about stonemasonry.

I want a stonemasonry game.

myp · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 9:16

I already know how to play the guitar, so it's a moot point for me. Plus the RB pro guitar is surprisingly good. I was very sceptical, but was quickly won over when I tried it.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26095

myp wrote:

I already know how to play the guitar, so it's a moot point for me. Plus the RB pro guitar is surprisingly good. I was very sceptical, but was quickly won over when I tried it.

that's what I mean. You can already play well, so you're looking at it as a purely gaming purchase, whereas I think a lot of people will purchase it to learn or improve on a real guitar, in which case I think it will be a better choice.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6611

Mimi wrote:

Also, it sounds like a game about stonemasonry.

I want a stonemasonry game.

Play Dwarf Fortress! Aside from stonemasonry, it also features leather tanning, fat rendering and barrel production.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 9:38

Squirt wrote:

Mimi wrote:

Also, it sounds like a game about stonemasonry.

I want a stonemasonry game.

Play Dwarf Fortress! Aside from stonemasonry, it also features leather tanning, fat rendering and barrel production.

And confusion

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26095

Squirt wrote:

Mimi wrote:

Also, it sounds like a game about stonemasonry.

I want a stonemasonry game.

Play Dwarf Fortress! Aside from stonemasonry, it also features leather tanning, fat rendering and barrel production.

ooh, can I make tallow candles?

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6611

Sadly not. It seems that tallow is only used in making soap or used as a cooking ingredient. Beeswax can't be used to make candles either. DF is sadly candle less.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26095

devilman · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 12:06

Mimi wrote:

devilman wrote:

I've noticed one or two copies of this appearing on Ebay as I've been browsing and I hadn't really heard much about this either. It's something I'd probably get though. The main track list doesn't really appeal, but there are some good DLC tracks there at least. I don't have a guitar either though, so it could get rather expensive.

wait... So, what, do you plug in an actual guitar? What, do you mean via electric guitar output to the 360 via some kind of adaptor?

From the Rocksmith site -

Quote:

Get plugged in.
Rocksmith will include a unique quarter-inch to USB cable that is the first of its kind, and will allow users to plug any real guitar with a quarter-inch jack directly into their PC/MAC, Xbox 360® or PlayStation 3®. Developed exclusively for Rocksmith, this guitar cable is 11.25' cable turns the guitar's signal from analog to digital, allowing it to be recognized and played through video game consoles for the first time.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

devilman wrote:

From the Rocksmith site -

Quote:

...
Rocksmith will include a unique quarter-inch to USB cable that is the first of its kind...

Presumably that means the first of its kind, not including all the other 1/4" to USB cables that you can buy.

myp · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 12:34

What would happen if I plugged my 7-string into it? Would it recognise the extra string?

DLC, I guess.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 13:32

myp wrote:

What would happen if I plugged my 7-string into it? Would it recognise the extra string?

DLC, I guess.

If you do that, it forces you to play only Limp Biscuit and Korn.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 13:52

Ok, this trailer has me interested. Dependent on price, this could sate my nagging want for a Rock Band 3 pro guitar.

-edit- £49.99 on Amazon. That means an extra tenner over the cost of a normal game. That seems to be better value than £120 for the RB pro guitar, based on the fact I already own guitars. Those who don't are looking at £120 for the game with an Epiphone Les Paul. That's not bad considering you get a real guitar with it and not just something plastic which will work with one game only (to date).

Looking at the trailer, the chord shapes and note placement seems to make more sense than the Harmonix game, too.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 15:20

A interesting comparison of RB3 and Rocksmith here: http://www.fakeplasticrock.com/category ... ld-people/

devilman · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 20:54

The Last Salmon Man wrote:

-edit- £49.99 on Amazon. That means an extra tenner over the cost of a normal game. That seems to be better value than £120 for the RB pro guitar, based on the fact I already own guitars. Those who don't are looking at £120 for the game with an Epiphone Les Paul. That's not bad considering you get a real guitar with it and not just something plastic which will work with one game only (to date).

Hmm.. the fact that there's a bundle with a guitar interests me. My local Cash Converters always has a wide range of guitars in, all looking much the same to me but at wildly different prices and I've no clue as to which are any good, particularly for someone who has never played one. Does that Epiphone look any good?

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jul 12, 2012 21:23

Epiphones are basically Gibson's budget range. So yeah, ok for beginners, definitely.

devilman · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:07

Did anyone buy this? I held off as I figured it'd be something else that I'd start and never finish, but I'm still toying with the idea of getting it eventually.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12337

Myp has it. I'm waiting to see what Santa brings.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22392

I'm considering it for xmas, it's either that or a lego kit

MrC · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:47

devilman wrote:

Did anyone buy this? I held off as I figured it'd be something else that I'd start and never finish, but I'm still toying with the idea of getting it eventually.

I bought it just after release and I’ve had a fair bit of fun with it, but I’m probably the ideal customer in that I already had a guitar and hadn’t played for a few years. If you’re starting from scratch I can’t honestly say it would make a good guitar tutor on its own, but maybe a fun accompaniment to proper guitar lessons or just teaching yourself with the aid of books. If you’re picking up a guitar for the first time you’ll be looking at the frets while you struggle to find the notes, which means you won’t be able to concentrate on the screen.

The notes fly towards you in Guitar Hero style, but there’s much more information to take in. Like I say, I haven’t played for a few years but still I found myself struggling to translate what was on the screen in time to play it.

I was very impressed with the adapter cable. Several of the reviews and the Rocksmith website itself warn about latency, especially if you have the setup that I do (everything through HDMI, no external sound system, listening through headphones connected directly to the telly), but I didn’t notice any delay between playing a note and hearing it through the game. A bonus for me was that I don’t have an amp at the moment, so this was a nice incentive to dig out the old guitar.

Another thing that the reviews criticized was the dynamic difficulty that monitors how good you are at a particular section then adds extra notes when it decides when you can handle it. It would have been nicer to have selectable difficulty settings, but I thought it worked surprising well for me.

Btw, I can’t speak for the guitar that’s in the pack, presumably it will be the cheapest Epiphone model, but I can say I’ve had my Epiphone (one of these http://www.thomann.de/gb/epiphone_les_p ... 3godckwAKQ) for around a decade and never had any trouble with it.

Zio · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6093

My brother is apparently getting me this for Chrimbo. I only have a bass guitar though, so I'm hoping the bass part of this is decent.

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