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 Post subject: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:30 
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http://www.google.com/ads/preferences

18-24
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That's very flattering Google, thank you :)


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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:38 
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True but you're a cunt, Google.

Age: 35-44
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I wonder how old it thinks I am from the sites I visit at home? :hat:

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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:40 
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Evil. Also correct.

Post your categories too if you dare!


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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:42 
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35-44 Male also and

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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:46 
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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:47 
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I assume all this goes on is what search terms you use, and being as I always use direct links and never search for anything anymore, a couple of searches can massively change the result.

Hmmm... I wonder how often it updates....

Off to try science!


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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:48 
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Evil. Also correct.

Post your categories too if you dare!

Oh yeah:

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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
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No surprise there, Z.

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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:49 
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Fan fiction :D That is Mrs T's fault, bloody Harry Potter :D

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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:49 
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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:49 
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Trooper wrote:
I assume all this goes on is what search terms you use, and being as I always use direct links and never search for anything anymore, a couple of searches can massively change the result.

Hmmm... I wonder how often it updates....

Off to try science!


It appears a dozen searches for wildebeest related terms has done nothing to my rating as yet...


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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
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Trooper wrote:
I assume all this goes on is what search terms you use, and being as I always use direct links and never search for anything anymore, a couple of searches can massively change the result.

Hmmm... I wonder how often it updates....

Off to try science!


It might be based on tracking you through sites that have google ad stuff on them, not just searches. If that's possible..


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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:50 
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Mine gives me no information. Presumably as Internet activities on phone are limited.

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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:51 
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Google is really quite clever, isn't it?


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No interest or demographic categories are associated with your ads preferences so far. You can add or edit interests and demographics at any time.


Not sure if that's because I'm at work or because I'm running Ad Block - although it shows the same in IE too where I don't block anything.

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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
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kalmar wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I assume all this goes on is what search terms you use, and being as I always use direct links and never search for anything anymore, a couple of searches can massively change the result.

Hmmm... I wonder how often it updates....

Off to try science!


It might be based on tracking you through sites that have google ad stuff on them, not just searches. If that's possible..


I have all adverts blocked, which I guess further biases the results.


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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
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Zardoz wrote:
kalmar wrote:
Evil. Also correct.

Post your categories too if you dare!

Oh yeah:

Arts & Entertainment - Music & Audio - Music Reference
Autos & Vehicles - Personal Aircraft ( :shrug: )
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Games - Online Games - Massive Multiplayer
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You ideally want massive radio controlled personal anatomy, then.


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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
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Mr Dave wrote:
Trooper wrote:
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Fan fiction :D That is Mrs T's fault, bloody Harry Potter :D

Fan fiction? Kill yourself now.


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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:53 
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Trooper wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Trooper wrote:
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World Localities - Europe - Western Europe - United Kingdom - England - South East England

Fan fiction :D That is Mrs T's fault, bloody Harry Potter :D

Fan fiction? Kill yourself now.


Do I have to kill myself, or Mrs T?


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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:54 
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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 16:56 
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I think some people aren't posting their full list of interests... ;)


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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
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Trooper wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Trooper wrote:
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World Localities - Europe - Western Europe - United Kingdom - England - South East England

Fan fiction :D That is Mrs T's fault, bloody Harry Potter :D

Fan fiction? Kill yourself now.


Do I have to kill myself, or Mrs T?

Both. It's the only way to be sure.

(unless it was fat Mexican fan fiction /clique)


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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 17:10 
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I think some people aren't posting their full list of interests... ;)

Yeah, some very short lists being posted. At least I'm honest!

Not posting my home results though.

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I didn't filter anything - but this is my work machine.

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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
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Smart shit. Thinks I'm 18-24 though. INCORRECT.

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Your demographics
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Ah... ahem.


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Spot on, Google.

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Your categories
Below you can review the interests and inferred demographics that Google has associated with your cookie. You can remove or edit these at any time.
Arts & Entertainment
Hobbies & Leisure - Crafts - Fiber & Textile Arts
Shopping - Apparel

Doesn't seem to give me an age or male/female guess, though. The above is also my entire list, just three things :S

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Zardoz wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I think some people aren't posting their full list of interests... ;)

Yeah, some very short lists being posted. At least I'm honest!

Not posting my home results though.


I will post my home results - however on my works machine its just the 3 i've listed


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I like that it knows I spend most of my time looking at comics :)

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Hah I'm 18-12 years older than that!

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My work one shows nothing. I'll check at home later. I'm fully expecting to come back as male, though, whatever age group it reckons I'm in.

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My home one has nothing.

God bless incognito mode :P


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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
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flis wrote:
My work one shows nothing. I'll check at home later. I'm fully expecting to come back as male, though, whatever age group it reckons I'm in.


Mid-50s?

Or does it by have access to your photos?

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My home one has nothing.

God bless incognito mode :P


Ah, that's probably why my laptop shows nothing! I'll check my 'work window'...

Oh. Fuck you, Google!

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Shows no categories, though. I use work t'internet for buying shit from Hilti (450mm core-bit ftw) and finding technical data n shiz....

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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
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Craster wrote:
Google is really quite clever, isn't it?

Not really.

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Games - Computer & Video Games - Adventure Games
Games - Online Games - Massive Multiplayer
Games - Roleplaying Games
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World Localities - Europe - Western Europe - United Kingdom - England - South West England

Your demographics
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Age: 18-24
Gender: Male

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myp wrote:
Craster wrote:
Google is really quite clever, isn't it?

It's bang on.

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Your categories
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Games - Computer & Video Games - Woofter Sims
Games - Online Games - Massive Woofter Multiplayer
Sports - Team Sports - Soccer, Rounders & Chase me

Your demographics
We infer your age and gender based on the websites you've visited. You can remove or edit these at any time.
Age: 18-24
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 Post subject: Re: How old does Google think you are?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 19:20 
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