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Has anyone done any?
I'm thinking of taking a look this afternoon.

What should I make?

Make a robots fighting dragons game.

I'm still upgrading all our stuff from PHP 4 to PHP 5. Looking at HTML 5 can wait.

The new input types and the video element are pretty swish.

Other than that, I've not really done much with it simply because I expect it'll take Microsoft 15 gajillion years to get decent support for it in IE.

That should involve you doing pretty much nothing.

What horrible crap have you got buried in the PHP4 code?

Savages 4.

Make beex not crash and a "reply to all" button on the PMS pls.

Nope, not yet. Show us what you do, though.

That's Apache, not HTML.


And steal GazChap's thunder?

4?

http://www.lsav5.co.uk

Heh. I was expecting it to just say 'Cunt'.

My thunder was killed in action a long time ago.

Needs more dancing spiderman.

Only if it's FUTURE dancing Spiderman.

Natch.

http://www.fullonrobotchubby.co.uk/html5/vid.htm
Bugger, that's easy.
Safari / Chrome only, I think.

Doesn't do it for me in Firefox on linux, but on Chrome it most definitely is some hardcore shit.

That video's awesome for being able to make it look (more) like Grim...'s having a fit of some sort. Never has randomly clicking back and forth in a position bar been so much fun!

No position bar in Chrome here.

Right-click: Show controls?

Oh aye.

The vid seems to have crashed in Chrome. I can't play it any more than once and when I do grab the video slider to select the start section, Grim... spacks around on screen even more that the original. FUN TIMES

I am looking at the source and wondering what the trick is here. Is it that you are defining new elements with the CSS? If so, how does the browser know to allow that, when you are not specifying an HTML version?

This was the fun I was having.

iPad / iPhone users!

Does this work?
http://www.fullonrobotchubby.co.uk/html5/vid_iphone.htm

The new elements are part of HTML5, they're not being defined by the CSS, just styled.

It does.
Iiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting.

Yep, and it works well.

Oh! I guess I assumed they weren't already defined, since he is setting display:block for all of them. Something in the back of my mind about being able to style XML that way.

I think that's a workaround for IE, as obviously it can't understand the new elements and will display them as inline by default.

edit: I'm not sure. As I said, I haven't looked into HTML5 yet.

ooh yeah - I've been looking at this but haven't had a chance to try it.

It probably means I can avoid teaching fecking Flash in September, which I've managed to avoid up until now.

Saying it as a supporter since version 3 - Flash is dying.

Dimrill, can we get an arms-raised, cheering Cthulhu dimlie? It's the only thing that seems an appropriate response to that statement.

And not before time, too.

and there was much rejoicing.

This is an interesting blog post:
http://www.pseudocoder.com/archives/why ... lace-flash

Some good comments, too. Dude has a point.

True. Can you create simple apps and wigets in HTML5? or is it just html with extra tags?


probably should google it.

http://www.effectgames.com/demos/canvascycle/?sound=0

8-bit HTML5 animated pixel art.

Amazin!

I'm not sure his underlying premise that "it's vital to have the [feebly weak] copy protection that flash video provides" is actually a valid one though. DRM can fuck off.

Grow up - Flash has shiny good copy protection, and large content providers like Hulu and Blockbuster are probably going to continue to use it. No matter what you think of DRM, unless they write something into HTML5 to let providers protect your stuff (and, quite honestly, why shouldn't they?) Flash isn't going to go away. And that means that Flash Adverts and all-Flash websites aren't going to go away either.

Because the copy protection never stops anyone who's actually determined, does it? All it does is annoy legitimate users.

And personally I can certainly live without flash ads and all flash websites, thanks!

In what way?

Obviously - and that's why it needs to die.

I like flash. Surely you can't make nice little games in HTML 5 like Bejewelled....


EDIT: GOOGLE says I ! Although this just means Java lives instead:

http://www.benjoffe.com/code/

I agree with Grim...

Flash needs to die, but it's not going to go away if publishers can't protect their material. Obviously there are ways to get at a video even with brilliant protection through Flash, but it's never as easy as a right-click. Until such things are possible, major players are going to stay put. Christ, they're already paranoid enough about sticking their stuff online.

Bejewelled? You mean Quake 2, right?

Oh how I Quake.