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 Post subject: Why did no one tell me RE5 is a piece of shit?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 13:43 
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Are you playing it in single player? I can only imagine this is the reason. I only played it in co-op so far, which can render even a rubbish game somewhat fun, so.

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There's a demo right there, dude. Surely the name "Resident Evil" was a bit of a giveaway there.

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Because it is! >:(

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In co-op, it's fan-bloody-tabulous.

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In co-op, it's fan-bloody-tabulous.


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I played through it twice back-to-back with Miss Malabar. It was ace fun, despite the demo being shite.


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There's a demo right there, dude. Surely the name "Resident Evil" was a bit of a giveaway there.


Apparently its one of our favouritist games of all time. The reasons for this we may never know.


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I really enjoyed it in single player. Not as good as RE4 though.

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Not as good as RE4 though.

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Can you play 4 in co-op?

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Can you play 4 in co-op?
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Lewie - I think you'll find I may have mentioned that it was a big pile of cack. And was then subsequently shouted down as Mr Wrong by Gaywood et al (Hi Al!) in a fit of Bezzie HiveMind-ism.

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Can you play 4 in co-op?
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So 5 is clearly better by every imaginable metric, then.

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Gaywood doesn't like Burny Pee, so his opinion on games is rendered null and void.

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Gaywood doesn't like Burny Pee, so his opinion on games is rendered null and void.

Nah, he's got a point there. You're null and void.

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I played through it twice back-to-back with Miss Malabar.
I played it twice with Grim..., 1.5 times with Toby, and quite a bit more of it on my own.

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So 5 is clearly better by every imaginable metric, then.
5 is less innovative than 4. In fact, 5 comes across almost as a next-gen remake of 4, to my mind, so it feels less impressive when you look back on it. But in terms of the fun I had playing them, they are very close together.


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myp wrote:
Gaywood doesn't like Burny Pee, so his opinion on games is rendered null and void.
I don't actively dislike Burny Pee. I'm just highly "meh" on the entire thing.


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Gaywood doesn't like Burny Pee, so his opinion on games is rendered null and void.
But he does like Unreal Tournament, so he gets some stuff right. Resident Evil's still shit mind.

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So 5 is clearly better by every imaginable metric, then.
5 is less innovative than 4. In fact, 5 comes across almost as a next-gen remake of 4, to my mind, so it feels less impressive when you look back on it. But in terms of the fun I had playing them, they are very close together.


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Thing is though, however good coop is or isn't, having good coop in what is basically a single player game, if it is to the detriment of the single play game, is a bad thing.

I don't know whether to blame Epic or Capcom for it being shit though.


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having good coop in what is basically a single player game, if it is to the detriment of the single play game, is a bad thing.


Pretty sure there isn't a single instance of it being to the detriment of the SP, ever.

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myp wrote:
Gaywood doesn't like Burny Pee, so his opinion on games is rendered null and void.
But he does like Unreal Tournament, so he gets some stuff right.

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having good coop in what is basically a single player game, if it is to the detriment of the single play game, is a bad thing.
Pretty sure there isn't a single instance of it being to the detriment of the SP, ever.
It isn't. I played quite a lot of single player. It was fine.


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myp wrote:
Gaywood doesn't like Burny Pee, so his opinion on games is rendered null and void.
But he does like Unreal Tournament, so he gets some stuff right.


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Resident Evil's still shit mind.


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having good coop in what is basically a single player game, if it is to the detriment of the single play game, is a bad thing.


Pretty sure there isn't a single instance of it being to the detriment of the SP, ever.

What about not being able to pause to swap your inventory round, and stuff? Also, isn't the AI character a bit rubbish?

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Like I said, Resident Evil's shit. I still own them all apart from 5 cos of zombies, like.

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Pretty sure there isn't a single instance of it being to the detriment of the SP, ever.

What about not being able to pause to swap your inventory round, and stuff? Also, isn't the AI character a bit rubbish?[/quote]

Why would that be a co-op thing? There's nothing about it being co-op that would prevent you being able to pause.

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What about not being able to pause to swap your inventory round, and stuff?
The whole game was built around it, so it was never a problem. The four quick-select slots cover all the guns you need to change between on the fly, which is considerably more fluid that the RE4 suitcase.

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I expected she would be, but actually she was fine. I even trusted her with magnums toward the end (she sensibly only use them during boss fights).

There were rare exceptions -- she healed me a few times when I would have preferred she kept it for when I was more damaged -- but the NPC AI was a very pleasant surprise.


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I've not seen £20 of value from RE5 yet. Buying BP on the same day, for the same price, may have been a mistake. I just can't sit playing it for more than half an hour without getting bored.

Given I've only had the 360 this year, my hit rate on other games is pretty low:

Quantum of Solace. Came 'Free'. Shite. Easy points
Fallout 3 - made the mistake of falling for the rave reviews without considering whether I like that type of game. Gave away.
Cod4. Got for free from my brother. Fun.
Banjo Kazooie/Sega Superstars tennis - Came free, gave to brother after playing for 5 minutes each.
GTA 4. Fat, bloated and tedious. See also: Peter Kay
L4D. Great fun, overpaid for it but taken far more than £27 of value from it.
Burny Pee. See L4D
FIFA 09. Will last me a while as a footie sim but far prefer multiplayer and the servers will switch off soon.
PG4 - Came free with xbox, good (although I hate the kudos system), but everyone else is playing...
Forza 2. Which I dont really like on single player. And I won't be getting 3.
BLIC 07 - Only a tenner, shit, but got me by until...
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Er, in every previous game it paused whenever you went into your inventory screen. It doesn't in 5 because the way the game's been designed with co-op in mind. I think that's to its detriment, personally.

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Er, in every previous game it paused whenever you went into your inventory screen. It doesn't in 5 because the way the game's been designed with co-op in mind. I think that's to its detriment, personally.
Yes, I know. How much RE5 did you play?


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Admittedly, I've only played the demo. If you're quite happy to say that it doesn't affect it, then fair enough. I can just imagine in heated battles things getting a bit tricksy.

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things getting a bit tricksy.


Sounds like Gaywood. Damn Hobbits.

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having good coop in what is basically a single player game, if it is to the detriment of the single play game, is a bad thing.


Pretty sure there isn't a single instance of it being to the detriment of the SP, ever.

What about not being able to pause to swap your inventory round, and stuff? Also, isn't the AI character a bit rubbish?

Also, just general gameplay stuff. Having an AI partner at all times changes the game a lot, and I don't think it is for the better. There's also lots of waiting around for her, and she uses ammo at silly times. Also there was more than one occasion where she died from being stupid, or used a recovery item on me when I didn't want her to.


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Sounds like playing any co-op game with Myp, to be honest.

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Admittedly, I've only played the demo. If you're quite happy to say that it doesn't affect it, then fair enough. I can just imagine in heated battles things getting a bit tricksy.
It barely effects it, you very quickly get used it. It can get a bit tricksy if you need to use health and don't have that in a quick select slot, so you have to plan ahead and run to cover before fiddling in the inventory. On the other hand, swapping from, say, pistol to shotgun to rifle is a single keypress, rather than InventoryPause-dpad-A-Use-A-B from other Resident Evils.


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Admittedly, I've only played the demo. If you're quite happy to say that it doesn't affect it, then fair enough. I can just imagine in heated battles things getting a bit tricksy.


It really doesn't get in the way. I still think the game needs a good kick up the ass to bring it up to speed with modern things, but fuck me was it ace fun. Much better on the second playthrough, too.


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Er, in every previous game it paused whenever you went into your inventory screen. It doesn't in 5 because the way the game's been designed with co-op in mind. I think that's to its detriment, personally.


It was a design choice. I could list you 10 co-op games that allow you to pause and access inventory.

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There's also lots of waiting around for her
Tap B to call her, or tap Down to put her on "Follow" mode; she'll stick closer to you.

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If she's on Follow mode, she almost always uses her pistol. If you put her on Attack, she uses rifle or shotgun. I've never seen her use a rocket launcher, and I've only seen her use magnums in boss fights. That all feels pretty reasonable to me (speaking as someone who completed RE4 twice and RE5 four times).

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How did she die? If her health is getting battered, you should close up so you can heal her if she goes into Dying state. And I assure you the NPC doesn't fuck up QTEs like I do.

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Also, isn't the AI character a bit rubbish?


Racist. You were all excited at first because you thought the game was all about killing ethnics, not working with them.


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It was a design choice. I could list you 10 co-op games that allow you to pause and access inventory.

What, when playing online? I can think of hardly any online co-op shooters that let you pause at all (Gears of War & 2 are the only ones I can think of).

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It's not a shooter. If it was a shooter, you wouldn't have an inventory screen at all. It's closer to an RPG in that respect.

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I have RE5. I enjoy that it shares the same sense of lunacy as RE1.

"Zombies shoving something down a man's throat? I'll wait until they're good and done before I start moving!"

I've not quite got the hang of the controls, and have only played it for about half an hour. I just need to find someone to co-op it with, as it's supposed to be better than single player.

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Also, just a load of the coop stuff killed the atmosphere. Like, where would in RE4 be "Open door, creepy noise, next area", RE5 was "Open door *COOP UI FLASH FLASH FLASH BEEP BEEP BEEP YOU ARE PLAYING A VIDEO GAME* next area"

Or the "puzzles" which were all just "kill the dudes and pick up both keycards".


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I've not quite got the hang of the controls, and have only played it for about half an hour. I just need to find someone to co-op it with, as it's supposed to be better than single player.
I would be happy to help. With my unlimited ammo sawn-off triple barreled shotgun of Infinite Justice.


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It's not a shooter. If it was a shooter, you wouldn't have an inventory screen at all. It's closer to an RPG in that respect.

See this is the problem. It wants to be gears of war. It really really wants to be Gears of war. Without Shinja Mikami at the helm, they haven't got a clue of what to do with RE, so they just made a bad Gears of War clone that is seriously held back by all the archaic game design choices that they have made. It's a game that wants to put you into combat scenarios that it hasn't really got the controls for you to handle. Basically all of my deaths were caused by limitiations in the controls scheme, that a decent modern game shouldn't have.


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CliffyB was pretty open about Gears of War's biggest influence being RE4, you know. Is it any wonder that GoW1+1 and RE4+1 have similarities?


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It....really doesn't want to be Gears of War. Have you played any of the previous RE games? The controls in 5 are a breeze compared to trying to play 3, for example.

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