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 Post subject: New Xbox Live Update thing
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:44 
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I've just turned my Xbox on and got the update (I was successful in the application to go in the trial thing). Anyone else?


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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Jonarob wrote:
I've just turned my Xbox on and got the update (I was successful in the application to go in the trial thing). Anyone else?
Did you hear you were successful, or did it just happen? Anything interesting in the update?


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I got an email this morning to tell me I'd been successful. Not turned my Xbox on yet, though.

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Jonarob wrote:
I've just turned my Xbox on and got the update (I was successful in the application to go in the trial thing). Anyone else?
Did you hear you were successful, or did it just happen? Anything interesting in the update?


Got an email saying I was successful - the update just happened automatically, though. So far, it's exactly the same :p

There's the avatar marketplace thing, and some other subtle changes. There's a new "awards" bit under the achievements thing in the Xbox Guide. Think it's stuff your avatar gets for completing games and stuff. It says I don't have any, though...


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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The achievement bit is pretty cool. You can now scroll through and see the achievement conditions without loading each one up separately. Also, it tells you which games you've 100% completed and gives you an overall 432432/432432334324234 and 321231/322312122 thing for gamerscore and number of achievements.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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Jonarob wrote:
The achievement bit is pretty cool. You can now scroll through and see the achievement conditions without loading each one up separately. Also, it tells you which games you've 100% completed and gives you an overall 432432/432432334324234 and 321231/322312122 thing for gamerscore and number of achievements.

Thats highly irrelevant though. I had Sega Superstars tennis in my machine for 3 minutes before I pulled the disk out and shat all over it before breaking the piece of shit into a million pieces. That'll skew my gamerscore percentage unfavourably. Does this mean Dimrill will now only start games that he knows he can whore to keep the near the magic 100%?


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Under NXE you can delete any game with 0 gamerscore from your profile history, though.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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Riles wrote:
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The achievement bit is pretty cool. You can now scroll through and see the achievement conditions without loading each one up separately. Also, it tells you which games you've 100% completed and gives you an overall 432432/432432334324234 and 321231/322312122 thing for gamerscore and number of achievements.

Thats highly irrelevant though. I had Sega Superstars tennis in my machine for 3 minutes before I pulled the disk out and shat all over it before breaking the piece of shit into a million pieces. That'll skew my gamerscore percentage unfavourably. Does this mean Dimrill will now only start games that he knows he can whore to keep the near the magic 100%?


What the Gaywood sed.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:25 
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Jonarob wrote:
Also, it tells you which games you've 100% completed and gives you an overall 432432/432432334324234 and 321231/322312122 thing for gamerscore and number of achievements.


That's not new - NXE added the percentage per game, but I think the total gamerscore/possible gamerscore thing has always been around.


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Except the fucking shit Simpsons game which gives you an achievement of 5GS for pressing Start, FFS.

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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Under NXE you can delete any game with 0 gamerscore from your profile history, though.

I think tennis gave you 5 points for winning a point.

Like Myp said re Simpsons. Can you not delete >0 points? Stupid 360.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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I'm glad I stopped caring about gamerscore and percentage completed. The alternative sounds like a lot of work.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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MetalAngel wrote:
Jonarob wrote:
Also, it tells you which games you've 100% completed and gives you an overall 432432/432432334324234 and 321231/322312122 thing for gamerscore and number of achievements.


That's not new - NXE added the percentage per game, but I think the total gamerscore/possible gamerscore thing has always been around.


IT IS NEW!

When you look at your cheevs, the first "panel" is a summary of the games you've 100%ed and the aforementioned numbers. The info has always been there, but not presented like this. SO THERE.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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Jonarob wrote:
IT IS NEW!


Quote:
The info has always been there


So which is it? :hug:


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:31 
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MetalAngel wrote:
Jonarob wrote:
IT IS NEW!


Quote:
The info has always been there


So which is it? :hug:


It looks like this:

http://twitpic.com/c0bzu

You horrible, horrible man. Can we do the rest of Halo soon? Ta!

edit: Also, I thought I'd been a gold member for more than a year, but it turns out I'm about a month away from 2 years.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:33 
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Jonarob wrote:
http://twitpic.com/c0bzu
This is going to drive Dimrill spare.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Jonarob wrote:
http://twitpic.com/c0bzu
This is going to drive Dimrill spare.


I know! Poor little mite. Still, I bet his is considerably more impressive than my Lost, NBA 2K6, that free arcade game and Avatar effort.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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I wouldn't have any games under there at all.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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Er, I couldn't resist at 80 MS points (which I had spare, honest):

http://twitpic.com/c0ccy


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:40 
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I wouldn't have any games under there at all.


this^

And the only ones Im close to getting it are ones with silly DLC that means I couldnt get 1000/1000 if I tried.
Only 1000/1250 or whatever fallout 3 now is after all the DLCs


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Er, I couldn't resist at 80 MS points (which I had spare, honest):

http://twitpic.com/c0ccy

WANT.

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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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GOT!


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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myp wrote:
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Er, I couldn't resist at 80 MS points (which I had spare, honest):

http://twitpic.com/c0ccy

WANT.


Can we have less lusting after Jonarob in this thread, please.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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But I love his mangy locks.

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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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What Jonarob reads:

myp wrote:
But I love his manly looks.


And then, on your wedding, he bursts in when the question "Does anyone know of any reason these two may not be married" is asked, declares his love for you and you run off into the sunset, leaving Ange to cope with the Gaywood on her own.


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For I shall be paralysed with laughter at such an occurance. :D

Bonus points if he's painted himself orange and is wearing a blonde fright wig to make the transition from Ange less abrupt.


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Mr Dave wrote:
What Jonarob reads:

myp wrote:
But I love his manly looks.


And then, on your wedding, he bursts in when the question "Does anyone know of any reason these two may not be married" is asked, declares his love for you and you run off into the sunset, leaving Ange to cope with the Gaywood on her own.


:D


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Jonarob wrote:
http://twitpic.com/c0bzu
This is going to drive Dimrill spare.


Pah. I've been working to that sort of thing for the life of my box thanks to MyGamerCard and now TrueAchievements. I'm 63.14% complete btw.

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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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Bonus points if he's painted himself orange and is wearing a blonde fright wig to make the transition from Ange less abrupt.

I'm sending her the link to this now. I hope you enjoyed your life.

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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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I expect I'll be extra-driven to finish maxxing out Eternal Sonata and Alaskan Adventures now.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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Something I just read -- the PS3's "platinum" trophy, which you get for receiving all the other trophies for the game (so the 1000/1000 equivalent), always excludes all DLC. So you can always get exactly one platinum trophy per game, and you can always do it without any further expenditure.

That's a nice touch.


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That's a Bad Touch.

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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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That can't be right! Take GTI Club+, for example. When it came out, it had a load of un-winnable trophies for the car pack that hadn't been released yet. It came out a month ago, and it was about a fucking fiver. I still got it, like.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
That's a nice touch.


No doubt to sate all the PS3 owners who whinge that they never get as much DLC as 360 owners.


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Dimrill wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Jonarob wrote:
http://twitpic.com/c0bzu
This is going to drive Dimrill spare.


Pah. I've been working to that sort of thing for the life of my box thanks to MyGamerCard and now TrueAchievements. I'm 63.14% complete btw.


70.66%

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Something I just read -- the PS3's "platinum" trophy, which you get for receiving all the other trophies for the game (so the 1000/1000 equivalent), always excludes all DLC. So you can always get exactly one platinum trophy per game, and you can always do it without any further expenditure.

That's a nice touch.


I'm only 1 trophy away from my first platinum. Unfortunately, it requires completing Uncharted on Crushing. Which is bastardly hard. I *think* I got up to the plane.


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Mr Dave wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Something I just read -- the PS3's "platinum" trophy, which you get for receiving all the other trophies for the game (so the 1000/1000 equivalent), always excludes all DLC. So you can always get exactly one platinum trophy per game, and you can always do it without any further expenditure.

That's a nice touch.


I'm only 1 trophy away from my first platinum. Unfortunately, it requires completing Uncharted on Crushing. Which is bastardly hard. I *think* I got up to the plane.


Urgh!

I can only imagine what the final level (the ship) is like. That was irritating enough on Normal.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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Jonarob wrote:
That can't be right! Take GTI Club+, for example. When it came out, it had a load of un-winnable trophies for the car pack that hadn't been released yet. It came out a month ago, and it was about a fucking fiver. I still got it, like.
Interesting. I was thinking of disc games. Some PSN games (I have now found out) don't have platinum trophies at all -- including Pain and GTI Club. Even the Bluray release of Pain (which I had no idea existed) doesn't have a platinum trophy, which is a bit silly.

Even more silly is the guy I just found who only plays games on his primary account that he can get the platinum trophy for. He has an entire other account for games he cannot complete. Bonkers.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Jonarob wrote:
That can't be right! Take GTI Club+, for example. When it came out, it had a load of un-winnable trophies for the car pack that hadn't been released yet. It came out a month ago, and it was about a fucking fiver. I still got it, like.
Interesting. I was thinking of disc games. Some PSN games (I have now found out) don't have platinum trophies at all -- including Pain and GTI Club. Even the Bluray release of Pain (which I had no idea existed) doesn't have a platinum trophy, which is a bit silly.

Even more silly is the guy I just found who only plays games on his primary account that he can get the platinum trophy for. He has an entire other account for games he cannot complete. Bonkers.


There are some strange folk out there!

To be honest, I don't think the whole Platinum Trophy still attainable after DLC is a "feature" any way. It's more a case of the trophy being set to unlock after the other trophies have been unlocked. Any DLC trophies will simply be ignored by the Platinum Trophy unlock bit of code because it doesn't know any better. You can still 1000 360 games when they have 1250 attainable points, if you know what I mean.

What is an interesting question, is, if they brought out DLC, for, say, Lost Via Domus with 250 extra points, would I lose my "100% complete" medal in the new interface?


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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Well, curiously, this updated for me this morning have had to cope with the crushing* disappointment of being rejected while both Jonarob and Myp were accepted. Now, however I can parade the "2" on my profile title bar, compared to their miserable "1". I rock.

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Ooh. Mine is flashing now.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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When you have your percentage score displayed you want to go back and complete your games more.

Before you would get bored and go buy a new game. It seems to me that such a focus on the gamerscore will ever so slighty decrease the number of games bought because you spend longer on the ones you already have.

Still can't wait to log in and get this eventually though

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When you have your percentage score displayed you want to go back and complete your games more.
Not I. I still don't care.


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 Post subject: Re: New Xbox Live Update thing
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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When you have your percentage score displayed you want to go back and complete your games more.
Not I. I still don't care.


I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from though. For a casual user like myself I will spend more time going back and eking out those few extra points maybe, as I haven't yet had the full value from the game, rather than spend another thirty pounds when I havent even finished the games I've got.

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I'm with the doc. Achievements and gamer points are things that happen to me as I'm playing a game, not something I strive for.

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I've gone for the odd one, only if whatever it is that I need to do it sounds like fun though. I wouldn't enjoy looking at a map on the internet and then visiting every one of the marked locations in the game to get something. If I'd got most of them by playing the game and I had only one left to get for an achievement then I'd probably feel a bit compelled to find it.


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I've gone for the odd one, only if whatever it is that I need to do it sounds like fun though. I wouldn't enjoy looking at a map on the internet and then visiting every one of the marked locations in the game to get something. If I'd got most of them by playing the game and I had only one left to get for an achievement then I'd probably feel a bit compelled to find it.


mark, it's that last sentence that is exactly what I'm getting at. I'm sure it's notgoing to kill the industry or anything.

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I love achievements. I'm not quite as obsessed as I used to be, but there is an element of OCD there, and it genuinely troubles me sometimes. Like, I really want the Halo 3 Legendary achievement and it's actually impacting on my day to day life.


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Jonarob wrote:
What is an interesting question, is, if they brought out DLC, for, say, Lost Via Domus with 250 extra points, would I lose my "100% complete" medal in the new interface?


I think it probably would.

I'm on the new interface but havent really used it yet , however for my "100%" section i only have 2 XBLA games listed , and i do have 1000 points for Fallout3 (but have not touched the DLC) so i think if you had 100% and they up the number it'll vanish


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