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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:18 
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... ity-trolls

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/feb/17/twestival-charity-trolls


Awesome work.

That's better than when i got a slating spelling some word wrong in the over by over coverage.

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When I click on that, it gives a NSFW warning at the top. Shouldn't we do the same?

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That is awesome. Although Orlowski really is a prick, mind.


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When I click on that, it gives a NSFW warning at the top. Shouldn't we do the same?


That's the title of the guy's column. It's not NSFW at all.

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 Post subject: Re: I've just been slagged off by the Guardian.
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how cool is that being slagged off by the gaurdian? :)

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Orlowski is a massive right wing twunt. It's not for nothing that his articles on the Reg have no comments section.

He's also ugly as sin. Not that that's relevant.

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That's the title of the guy's column. It's not NSFW at all.
That's fine then. I just read the title and closed the window...

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He's also ugly as sin. Not that that's relevant.


MR CHRIS RATES THE ATTACTIVENESS OF MEN!!!!

nice reply though, on the comments section, Mr P.

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How the heck do I get my thousand words in reply. Genuinely wondering.

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How the heck do I get my thousand words in reply. Genuinely wondering.


Why do you need 1000 words to say "Cock off, fagballs"?

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Heh. The article sort of has a good point until it starts getting snotty on behalf of PR people.
Nice work anyway.

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While Orlowski is clearly a knob, Carr has massively missed the point of what he was saying. It was not a rant against twitter. It was a rant at those who seem to believe that somehow a technology product allowing broad dissemination of bitesized information can magically transform the idea of charitable giving. Which, of course, it can't. Using twitter doesn't automagically turn someone into an altruist, just like creating a Facebook group to stop knife crime doesn't magically save our kiddies from stabby stabby death.

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 Post subject: Re: I've just been slagged off by the Guardian.
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This Andrew Orlowski sounds like a right cunt to me. :attitude:

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 Post subject: Re: I've just been slagged off by the Guardian.
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It amuses me that the article cites a certain "itchibolox". Awesome


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 Post subject: Re: I've just been slagged off by the Guardian.
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While Orlowski is clearly a knob, Carr has massively missed the point of what he was saying. It was not a rant against twitter. It was a rant at those who seem to believe that somehow a technology product allowing broad dissemination of bitesized information can magically transform the idea of charitable giving. Which, of course, it can't. Using twitter doesn't automagically turn someone into an altruist, just like creating a Facebook group to stop knife crime doesn't magically save our kiddies from stabby stabby death.

Yes, but nobody had suggested that it did. Orlowski's piece was just yet another bitter whinge against the new, belittling a charitable event.

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Haha, Plissken, you've been GUARDIANPWND.

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 Post subject: Re: I've just been slagged off by the Guardian.
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Orlowski's piece was just yet another bitter whinge against the new, belittling a charitable event.


True, that seems somewhat petty and nasty.
On the other hand, Carr's article is equally unforgivable for the smugness and righteous indignation of his "how dare you fogeys criticise, it's all for charidee" tone. The first two paragraphs clearly hit a raw nerve, and I think that's what Carr's rant is really a response too. Orlowski does have a point there.


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Can we just agree Carr and Orlowski are both cunts?


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 Post subject: Re: I've just been slagged off by the Guardian.
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Carr's just a bit of a meeja twit. Orlowski's a hyowje cavernous minge.

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Carr's just a bit of a meeja twatter.


FTF the, uh, parlance of our times.


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Absolutely genuine question - can I have a couple of thousand words to respond?


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@plissken: there are free blogs aplenty via wordpress.com.. We'll have a look if it's interesting.


Eugh. That last quote is dripping with guardian-article-commenter groupthink. "We, the guardian commenters, will deign to view your response and will provide our collective opinion. You may go".

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 Post subject: Re: I've just been slagged off by the Guardian.
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Staff writer though, so it's really "No, but we're not supposed to say that because we're The Motherfucking Guardian, Bitch"


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Fuck that, the very first sentence is twattery of the highest order

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Could do with you lot going onto the Guardian comments and asking them to publish my rebuttal...

This could be fun.

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Could do with you lot going onto the Guardian comments and asking them to publish my rebuttal...

This could be fun.


I don't want to see a picture of your arse on the web thanks all the same.


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It is a very nice arse. Um, apparently.

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Make that reply good, Plissken!
I spent most of my time reading that thinking you were Andrew Orlowski.

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Could do with you lot going onto the Guardian comments and asking them to publish my rebuttal...

This could be fun.


Done.

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Could do with you lot going onto the Guardian comments and asking them to publish my rebuttal...

This could be fun.



Done :D
PS, you can "recommend" Plissken's comment as well, not sure if that makes any difference.


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Oh, this is going to be good. My Twitter account is two years old and I fucking hate the meeja types. I'll post later, Plissken.


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 Post subject: Re: I've just been slagged off by the Guardian.
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Bah, as soon as the next thing comes along everyone will forget about Twitter and move on. Just like all those companies and political parties with HQs in Second Life that no one cares about any more.

And to be fair on Orowolorlsoski, his point does seem to be that the media was writing about the event purely because it was on Twitter, rather than any other reason. $250k for charity is fantastic, but if they got that amount by people sending them cheques after getting an appeal in the post, no one would even bat an eye.


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if they got that amount by people sending them cheques after getting an appeal in the post, no one would even bat an eye.

Not from the media's point of view, no. It wouldn't exactly be newsworthy.

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Nice one Craster. If only we could produce such sterling teamwork in Gears of War 2.

AmandaStone's comment is good too.


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I have added my tuppence worth.

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Me, too.

I didn't know what you wanted me to say, so I muddied the waters a bit.

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I love the idea of many many Guardian readers fruitlessly trying to fathom out the actual meaning behind Mali's comment.

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That did make me chuckle, yes.

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This *may* start to look like an, ahem, attack arranged on a forum full of old-school early adopters? :DD

I wonder what the Google results for Craster turn up. Expect Cann's next article to be about this lair of badger touching bastards he's discovered.


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I still think that 'steal a man's fish' line is awesome, though.

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I will admit to kicking it old school, but only in respect of cardigans and hats. And I certainly wasn't an early adopter. I waited until all of the wrinkles had been ironed out first.

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Jesus dude, it's not safe for work *now* is it!? :)


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I wonder what the Google results for Craster turn up. Expect Cann's next article to be about this lair of badger touching bastards he's discovered.


Luckily, the place called Craster muddies my googling somewhat.

Add the word 'touches' in there, though....

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I like how it's hilariously transparent that we've all pitched up in the comments on behalf of comrade Plissken :D
Web 2.0 biyatches!


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I like how it's hilariously transparent that we've all pitched up in the comments on behalf of comrade Plissken :D
Web 2.0 biyatches!

Heh!

I haven't upgraded from 0.8 yet, though.

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I can't see the comments on the web page, even though I am registered with the site.

:(

It just has a bar saying that it is loading the comments, but it never completes. Drat.

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Curiosity wrote:
I can't see the comments on the web page, even though I am registered with the site.

:(

It just has a bar saying that it is loading the comments, but it never completes. Drat.


Keep watching.


Carr aught to thank us actually, that's the most comments he's ever had for one of his blog posts.


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