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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:54 
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It'd be quite interesting to have a mason role that allowed one induction into the masons per night. If chosen well, it could be a valuble asset to the town. If a mafia type is inducted... less so. Certainly some of the ways it could play out would be... interesting.
I had a similar concept from the other side in VampireScum, in that if the Vamps turned the Serial Killer, he was still the Killer (and would doublecross them). Hence the Vamps couldn't necessarily trust their internal list. Ditto the Masons, if one of them was recruited, he became a Vamp but would still be on the Mason private list.

I like the idea of a game where there's a lot going on under the surface. I keep having ideas about a more ARG style Mafia game, with several factional groupings, shifting loyalties, and more outlandish powers like this "edit past posts" one myop has in this game.


It's certainly interesting, as it'd be clear to the masons when the inducted mafia was not towing the party line, while the Mafia would be leaking info to his chums, which would help them similary.

Meanwhile, you've got the vanilla townies, who'd probably have to assume after a couple of days that any meaningful blockvoting was actually to their favour... and how easy would that be to corrupt, either from the inside or outside.

It'd be an enormously powerful tool for the town, so long as they picked wisely.


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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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Clever Person A - "Ohh, Sheepeh has been on the silent side, that looks suspious"

Sheepeh, a few minutes later - "Can't post much, not near a computer. Not Evil"

Stupid Person A Cultist of the Sheep A - "Fair enough then".

A little later

Clever Person B - "Ohh, Sheepeh has been on the silent side, that looks suspious"

Sheepeh, a few minutes later - "Can't post much, not near a computer. Not Evil"

Stupid Person B Cultist of the Sheep B - "Fair enough then".

Grrrr >:(


FTFY

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Actually i think the problem with one of those two was that Sheepeh had just got to 5 votes and the akward git was then defending them.


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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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I wonder if the Awkward Git is also a different person... like the Awkward Serial Killer, for instance.

Malc, you awkward serial killer...

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Curiosity wrote:
I wonder if the Awkward Git is also a different person... like the Awkward Serial Killer, for instance.

Malc, you awkward serial killer...


You just want to call someone an akward cult dont you :-)


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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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Dudley, you cunt. When were you recruited?

I like this though, is Joans telling the truth? He could be, but it could also be an awesome endgame tactic by the mafia. They might have realised they only need to knock off another townie or two to win.

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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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I'm a happy little terrorist now. Thanking you fellow goons.

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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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What's with deleting my post? In previous games it was established that newly dead people could make one final 'Oh shit I'm dead' post, although most people don't take advantage of it.

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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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You should've asked me, I'd have put it in your death scene. My rules state anyone dead cannot post in the main thread.

Anyway, due to the night actions it's going to get very interesting tomorrow. :D

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Actually I wanted to be lowered in the lava with my thumb up as per Terminator 2, but damn me, I got all excited with killing myself that I forgot to mention it.

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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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Credit to myop: the Seer role is working out excellently.


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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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You're such a bummer Gaywood ;)

If I'd claimed to have had a vision nobody would have believed it. Besides, its now Day 4 and this is the first vision anyone has admitted to. People are wimps. Revealing someone as a townie would have been just as helpful.

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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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Anyone getting anywhere with the encoded message? Treating it as a pure crytogram got me "THE GUN IN THE SHORT DYKE". Which, uhh, is nonsense. It doesn't seem to be any sort of Caeser cypher this time.


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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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Curiosity wrote:
I'm voting Dudley for Cultist.


Well done sir!

Craster wrote:
I got the seer vision PM last night, which told me that *PersonX* was cult. Unfortunately I totally misread it and thought it was a cult recruitment PM. I then went and PMd *PersonX* saying 'Hello! I'm in your cult now', getting a reply back copying in the whole cult identifying everyone.

So, I found out who the entire cult was, but wasn't actually recruited. Can't play on from there.

DUUUH!


To confirm, I got this PM and replied to Craster. :)

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Still a bit dim of them I think -- but also dim of you. Dim all around!


Bollocks. I get a PM saying "You've been recruited, the leader is [AHAHAHA]" and one effectively saying "Hi I'm in the cult" from someone else and I'm suppose to assume they're (illegally) PMing me about a vision and not that they're the other cultist?

The two possibilities were "Craster is a cheating fuck" and "Craster is in the cult too".

(I missed of course the real answer - "Craster is an idiot".)

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So if CG does end up in the noose for today who is actually going to speak tomorrow ?


Which is why of course, the cult wanted him gone :)

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Dudley, you cunt. When were you recruited?


Night 2, as I said above, Craster PM'd me.

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Gazchap eh..... interesting ;)


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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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I notice Gazchap made a posting protesting his innocence.

And only afterwards made another one with the Seer claim which just stinks of tit for tat.

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Let's just say if I'd been alive, I'd have voted for Gazchap already.


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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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Kalmar wrote:
Gazchap, want to cut us a deal for your life?

And I was right: the real SK *did* vote for the fake SK on day 1. I got totally ridiculed by Dudley for suggesting that.


That's because it was still a fucking stupid thing for them to do.

If they're about to analyse what I did to find the cult leader, I feel I'm safe in saying they will fail. Especially as they don't know when I was recruited unless they're smart enough to tie it to Craster's suicide.

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Hush yo mouth. The one day I managed to get a good run at the computer, the game took ages to start.

To be honest I'm not sure who I believe but I think we should go with either Joans or Gazchap.


Posted 2 seconds after someone said he was quiet, to finger the two people already with votes and to make an excuse for an absence that didn't exist.

I'm still not convinced he's scum, but it's amazing how transparent a game he's playing.

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I really think the seer outing himself can help in todays proceedings, telling who hes giving visions to and trying to figure out who is innocent or not.


Plus he might spot one of my scum mates sooner or later and we'd like to off him before that happens.

Joans wrote:
You seem to keep popping up whenever your name is mentioned.


Why yes he does, doesn't he?

Sheepeh wrote:

I did notice I logged on just as I was mentioned this afternoon actually, but that was a coincidence


The other 8 times it was deliberate.

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if you were Mafia you'd want that to happen so you could kill the (not especially useful) townie role, right?


Yes, we would.

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no I want to know as much information as possible because we'll have to kill the cult leader very soon.


Yes, "we" do, don't we fellow mafia. Because that's now pretty much our only threat.


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I always get killed by thew SK. at least I wasn't choked on my own faeces this time, though.

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Oh FFS, one night and they get the SK and at least two Cult and they are wondering about who to kill?

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Oh look, Sheepeh is "helping" someone die.

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 Post subject: Re: MafiaScum VII General Chat Thread
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This has become interesting, with many, many people up for the chop.

There could be multiple lies... if the Mafia or Cult get the other people to off their enemies, one of them could make massive progress tonight...

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Surely it's obvious. If they get a new leader, it's impossible for the town to win, as they'd have to kill off two cult each day to win.

So the cult can't get a new leader if the rules are at all fair.


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Mr Dave wrote:
Surely it's obvious. If they get a new leader, it's impossible for the town to win, as they'd have to kill off two cult each day to win.

So the cult can't get a new leader if the rules are at all fair.


Indeed.

Interesting that this time they're letting the SK roleclaim live... THE BASTARDS!!!

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Why the hell did Gaz claim?

Idiot.

I guess it's pretty safe to say in here the cult is fucked and the CCTV operator just got very, VERY lucky.


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Why the hell did Gaz claim?

Idiot.

I guess it's pretty safe to say in here the cult is fucked and the CCTV operator just got very, VERY lucky.


He didn't claim, he was exposed.

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It's now the Town's game to lose...

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Dudley wrote:
the CCTV operator just got very, VERY lucky.


I can't quite believe it. Who was it at the beginning who said the town had no power roles? :D

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ALso interesting to note that even if Curiosity had survived day 1, he'd now be screwed anyway. (Indeed, the town would've had problems picking which of their three targets to choose yesterday)


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The best thing about day 1 was when everyone was close to lynching Curio, he managed to get some people to unvote and vote for Gaz instead. If he'd managed to get the real SK lynched instead it would've been hilarious!

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Dudley wrote:
Why the hell did Gaz claim?

Idiot.

I guess it's pretty safe to say in here the cult is fucked and the CCTV operator just got very, VERY lucky.


He didn't claim, he was exposed.


Someone said they saw something, the town were already voting two other scum dead.

It really wasn't needed.

Also that was seriously unlucky camera placement for the cult.


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The best thing about day 1 was when everyone was close to lynching Curio, he managed to get some people to unvote and vote for Gaz instead. If he'd managed to get the real SK lynched instead it would've been hilarious!


That was one of my reasons for keeping him alive, there was a chance that we would lynch the SK ourselves, outing Curiosity, which would have been pretty darned funny!

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This is a most excellent game, indeed.

I wasn't sure about the Seer and CCTV operator roles before the game started, but they've worked brilliantly for this game.

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Yes, they might have been useless, but then again so could any role be...

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Yes, they might have been useless, but then again so could any role be...


It partly depends on who has the role and what they do about it.

e.g. i couldnt see CG as a very good seer - he'd be posting the very next day "right i am the seer and i chose playerX and PlayerY so tell me what you saw last night now or else !!!"

Its definetly down to the town to lose the game now - although someone needs to hit the cult leader otherwise the cult still grows one overnight and the town / mafia drop because of the other kills.


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It would be hilarious if instead of killing GJ, who is apparently the Cult Leader, GazChap goes and kills someone at random, like Joans.

That would make me laugh.

The cult get a recruit tonight whether or not the leader dies, so they're not out of it yet.

If the remaining Goon isn't a fool, they will target a townie tonight and leave the SK and Cult Leader well alone.

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Curiosity wrote:
If the remaining Goon isn't a fool, they will target a townie tonight and leave the SK and Cult Leader well alone.


Remember theres a Doc left as well so they could still block stuff (and if they are recruited they could block Gaz targetting GJ)


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Curiosity wrote:
If the remaining Goon isn't a fool, they will target a townie tonight and leave the SK and Cult Leader well alone.


Remember theres a Doc left as well so they could still block stuff (and if they are recruited they could block Gaz targetting GJ)


It should be interesting.

I still think Gaz turning on the town would be funniest, because the town would be forced to let him live as the more pressing need is to lynch Jasmine.

So he'd get to off someone else during the next night too before the townies tired of him.

Of course, should he play along with the town, and the town ends up winning, then my argument about the town allowing the SK to live as he's their best weapon would be shown to be true!

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Yeah, if Gaz kills tonight he gets 1 more kill.

If he betrays them he'll probably get 2.

Since his win condition is effectively to get as many kills in as possible he SHOULD betray them.


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Curiosity wrote:
Of course, should he play along with the town, and the town ends up winning, then my argument about the town allowing the SK to live as he's their best weapon would be shown to be true!


Although hardly original, I've certainly suggested it a fair few times (and even before we got decimated by the SK in the last game)

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Yeah, if Gaz kills tonight he gets 1 more kill.

If he betrays them he'll probably get 2.

Since his win condition is effectively to get as many kills in as possible he SHOULD betray them.


If Gaz kills tonight, he'll get 2 at most. If he doesn't, he could well up up with more. The town don't know exactly how many Mafia or Cult there are left, and they may well not kill him until after they're all gone.

It would be amusing if he was kept alive trying to find the last mafia, when there aren't actually any left.


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Indeed. I do hope that myp will not confirm when a certain faction is removed from the game, and will only confirm when one side wins. That would certainly be more fun, IMO, and will no doubt lead to much hand-wringing from the townies over how long to keep Gaz alive for...

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Curiosity wrote:
Indeed. I do hope that myp will not confirm when a certain faction is removed from the game, and will only confirm when one side wins. That would certainly be more fun, IMO, and will no doubt lead to much hand-wringing from the townies over how long to keep Gaz alive for...


He should not alert one side or another - its up for the players to work it out.

For my money until you get close to the end if you have not got the cult leader you keep the SK , but once they are gone the SK should pretty much be the next to go (again unless your on a really small number remaining)


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Curiosity wrote:
Indeed. I do hope that myp will not confirm when a certain faction is removed from the game, and will only confirm when one side wins. That would certainly be more fun, IMO, and will no doubt lead to much hand-wringing from the townies over how long to keep Gaz alive for...


I'm not giving anything away until the end of the game. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 14:21 

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HURRY THE FUCK UP MAFIA AND/OR SK.


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