Best Games Ever (Edge Magazine 2017)

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:53

Apparently Edge Magazine is still a thing!

Anyway, they have published a list of the top 100 bestest games of ever, forever ever, forever ever.

It is, of course, a terrible list.

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100. Super Hexagon
99. Her Story
98. Super Monkey Ball
97. Final Fantasy XII
96. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
95. Hyper Light Drifter
94. Katamari Damacy
93. Animal Crossing: New Leaf
92. Resogun
91. Puzzle Bobble
90. F-Zero GX
89. The Sims 3
88. R-Type Final
87. Elite: Dangerous
86. Bomberman
85. StarCraft II
84. Pac-Man: Championship Edition
83. BioShock
82. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
81. Puzzle & Dragons
80. Tearaway
79. League of Legends
78. Super Meat Boy
77. Xenoblade Chronicles
76. OutRun 2006: Coast to Coast
75. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
74. Civilization IV
73. Battlefield 4
72. Metroid Prime
71. Hearthstone
70. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
69. Limbo
68. Towerfall Ascension
67. EarthBound
66. Batman: Arkham Knight
65. Transistor
64. Puyo Puyo
63. FTL: Advanced Edition
62: Persona 4 Golden
61. Mass Effect 2
60. Okami
59. The Stanley Parable
58. XCOM: Enemy Unknown
57. Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate
56. The Witcher III: Wild Hunt
55. Far Cry 4
54. Titanfall 2
53. Doom (2016)
52. Trials Fusion
51. Nidhogg
50. Fez
49. Overwatch
48. Super Mario 3D World
47. Journey
46. Dead Space
45. Dota 2
44. Vanquish
43. Super Mario Maker
42. Fire Emblem Fates
41. Inside
40. Shadow of the Colossus
39. Halo 3
38. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
37. Spelunky
36. Destiny
35. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
34. Kerbal Space Program
33. Dishonored
32. Splatoon
31. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
30. Rock Band 3
29. The Last Guardian
28. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
27. Ico
26. Super Metroid
25. Demon's Souls
24. Horizon: Zero Dawn
23. Advance Wars
22. The Witness
21. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
20. Ultra Street Fighter IV
19. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
18. Rez Infinite
17. Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
16. Super Mario World
15. Red Dead Redemption
14. Super Mario 64
13. Portal
12. Bayonetta 2
11. Minecraft
10. Resident Evil 4
9. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
8. Super Mario Galaxy 2
7. Tetris
6. Half-Life 2
5. Bloodborne
4. The Last of Us
3. Grand Theft Auto V
2. Dark Souls
1. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

Discuss!

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:08

See! I told you all that Breath of the Wild was ace!

devilman · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:47

I think I've only played about a quarter of the games on the list, but most of those I'd say were justified to be on there. Not really sure about R-Type Final and F-Zero GX. There are better shooters than R-Type Final and F-Zero GX was too hard for its own good.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:48

That list is terrible.
Dark Souls is shit.
Zelda is probably crap I haven't played it but ot looks rubbish

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:54

Final Fantasy XII the only FF on there, at 97

No Goldeneye, Sensi Soccer, Cannon Fodder, etc. Okay fair enough if you're gonna not include old games, but then Tetris in the top ten?

And all the other usual gripes about it being skewed towards the newest games, weird treatment of 'series' games, etc.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:00

MGSV? Jesus

Zardoz · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:18

No Killing Floor 2?!

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:20

No Transport Tycoon! Surely one of the best business/transport/trains ever. And demolishing a city because a rival had a better station was always fun.

Oh, and no Repton either? Rubbish.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:20

No EvE online?

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:21

I've played 64 of those and for the record, I preferred Halo 4 to Halo 3.

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:21

Oh, and the lack of Monkey Island or Sam and Max just shows that this list is worthless.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:23

MaliA wrote:

MGSV? Jesus

It is a good game. It's hard to tire of launching men into the stratosphere with a balloon.

devilman · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:24

Curiosity wrote:

Final Fantasy XII the only FF on there, at 97

No Goldeneye, Sensi Soccer, Cannon Fodder, etc. Okay fair enough if you're gonna not include old games, but then Tetris in the top ten?

And all the other usual gripes about it being skewed towards the newest games, weird treatment of 'series' games, etc.

I never thought Cannon Fodder was all that good. I'd have put SWOS on there though. I'd have liked to have seen The Binding of Isaac on there too, but I suspect it's a bit of a love/hate type of game.

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:26

It actually looks like there's no sports games on there at all. No NHL94 on the Megadrive? Travesty.

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:27

TheVision wrote:

It actually looks like there's no sports games on there at all. No NHL94 on the Megadrive? Travesty.

No Speedball 2 either. Honestly, do these people know anything about games? Typical failing media. #MAGA

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:29

Kern wrote:

TheVision wrote:

It actually looks like there's no sports games on there at all. No NHL94 on the Megadrive? Travesty.

No Speedball 2 either. Honestly, do these people know anything about games? Typical failing media. #MAGA

I've put a lot of hours into Speedball 2. I had it on my Gameboy Advance which meant I was playing it everywhere I went. I don't think there was any end to it. You just got top of the league and carried on beating all the teams beneath you.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:33

TheVision wrote:

Kern wrote:

TheVision wrote:

It actually looks like there's no sports games on there at all. No NHL94 on the Megadrive? Travesty.

No Speedball 2 either. Honestly, do these people know anything about games? Typical failing media. #MAGA

I've put a lot of hours into Speedball 2. I had it on my Gameboy Advance which meant I was playing it everywhere I went. I don't think there was any end to it. You just got top of the league and carried on beating all the teams beneath you.

Speedball 2 is great.

If u get a pi can I speedball 2 on it?

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14418

devilman wrote:

I think I've only played about a quarter of the games on the list, but most of those I'd say were justified to be on there. Not really sure about R-Type Final and F-Zero GX. There are better shooters than R-Type Final and F-Zero GX was too hard for its own good.

I doubt many people would bemoan F-Zero GX in the list. I played it recently and it's still shockingly good looking with some magnificent track layout (why no one has tried to replicate the race around the pipework in that lava level I don't know), has a thumping soundtrack and has responsive controls. There's no noticeable rubber banding either for a racing game. I honestly don't think you can just discount it because it's subjectively "too hard".

R-Type Final however is clearly no match whatsoever for Gradius V which remains the best side scrolling shooter I've ever played. The levels were interesting and still have some of the most innovative challenges in a shooter to date which R-Type just can't boast. I was never a fan of Final's sometimes bland polygonal graphics to Gradius V intricate pixels.

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:37

TheVision wrote:

I've played 64 of those and for the record, I preferred Halo 4 to Halo 3.

Spreadsheet fans will be keen to hear that I own 54 of the top 100 games.

devilman · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:52

TheVision wrote:

It actually looks like there's no sports games on there at all. No NHL94 on the Megadrive? Travesty.

I'd also include Ace Golf and Rocket League.

Satsuma wrote:

devilman wrote:

I think I've only played about a quarter of the games on the list, but most of those I'd say were justified to be on there. Not really sure about R-Type Final and F-Zero GX. There are better shooters than R-Type Final and F-Zero GX was too hard for its own good.

I doubt many people would bemoan F-Zero GX in the list. I played it recently and it's still shockingly good looking with some magnificent track layout (why no one has tried to replicate the race around the pipework in that lava level I don't know), has a thumping soundtrack and has responsive controls. There's no noticeable rubber banding either for a racing game. I honestly don't think you can just discount it because it's subjectively "too hard".

R-Type Final however is clearly no match whatsoever for Gradius V which remains the best side scrolling shooter I've ever played. The levels were interesting and still have some of the most innovative challenges in a shooter to date which R-Type just can't boast. I was never a fan of Final's sometimes bland polygonal graphics to Gradius V intricate pixels.

I should probably give F-Zero GX another chance. No argument on Gradius V though. There are plenty of shooters I'd rather play than R-Type Final - Radiant Silvergun, Soukyugurentai, Raiden III etc

Zardoz · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:57

I love R-Type Final.

nickachu · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:57

Cod4 at 82? What is this nonsense.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:58

Far Cry 3 > Far Cry 4

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:14

Zardoz wrote:

Far Cry 3 > Far Cry 4

Yes

Zardoz · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:20

Vaas

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:31

Spreadsheet fans will also be glad to hear that I own 9 of the top 10 games.

See if you can guess which one I don't own?

nickachu · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:32

I'm gonna guess the last of us.

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:35

Close... but wrong!

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:37

TheVision wrote:

Close... but wrong!

Bloodborne

myp · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:40

Mr Dave wrote:

TheVision wrote:

Close... but wrong!

Bloodborne

Yep. Vision had a PS3 but no PS4

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:41

We have a winner!

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14418

Played 77 not played 23.

Of the 23 not played I'd probably like to play about 3 of them.

Of the 77 played I've completed 55 of the ones that have a completion state (so I'm counting Tetris for example as the Gameboy original I played it on had an ending).

Zardoz · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:03

How many of these games are Art?

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38667

10. I've played 10 of them.

Strong console bias in that list. Very strong

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:09

Zardoz wrote:

How many of these games are Art?

All of them but one. It's up to us to spend the next 10 or so pages discussing which one.

nickachu · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:29

Played only 27 of them. Who on earth voted for them? 13 year olds?

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:36

Dead Space? I'm surprised that's there.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:46

It's a very good game. But yeah.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14418

nickachu wrote:

Played only 27 of them. Who on earth voted for them? 13 year olds?

Why 13 year olds? All of Ueda's work is in there and they are considered some of the most emotionally affecting games produced not just shoot-em-up bang bang games like CoD.

Curio, did they have a preface to the list? Something that gives an idea of how they compiled their list?

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14518

Not played 21 but that includes things like Civ4 (when I've played a lot of previous Civ games) - the only one in the top in the top 20 i've not played is Bayonetta 2 and thats just because i dont have a Wii-u

Zardoz · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:52

nickachu wrote:

Who on earth voted for them? 13 year olds?

Just because you're 17 now!

nickachu · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:09

Satsuma wrote:

nickachu wrote:

Played only 27 of them. Who on earth voted for them? 13 year olds?

Why 13 year olds? All of Ueda's work is in there and they are considered some of the most emotionally affecting games produced not just shoot-em-up bang bang games like CoD.

Doom (2016) is rated so high.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:10

Enough of your lip, get to your room!

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14418

nickachu wrote:

Satsuma wrote:

nickachu wrote:

Played only 27 of them. Who on earth voted for them? 13 year olds?

Why 13 year olds? All of Ueda's work is in there and they are considered some of the most emotionally affecting games produced not just shoot-em-up bang bang games like CoD.

Doom (2016) is rated so high.

And that makes the list childish?

nickachu · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:14

Satsuma wrote:

nickachu wrote:

Satsuma wrote:

nickachu wrote:

Played only 27 of them. Who on earth voted for them? 13 year olds?

Why 13 year olds? All of Ueda's work is in there and they are considered some of the most emotionally affecting games produced not just shoot-em-up bang bang games like CoD.

Doom (2016) is rated so high.

And that makes the list childish?

The list is shit is essentially what I'm getting at.

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:17

Is it really shit or do you just disagree with it? I thought Doom (2016) was a brilliant game. Well deserving of a place on a 'best of' list.

I've just checked and noticed that they've put Dead Space above it. :shrug:

S'all subjective innit?

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:21

Doom (2016) would be troubling my top ten.

nickachu · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:21

TheVision wrote:

Is it really shit or do you just disagree with it?

Isn't that the same thing with this kind of thing? :shrug:

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:26

nickachu wrote:

TheVision wrote:

Is it really shit or do you just disagree with it?

Isn't that the same thing with this kind of thing? :shrug:

I'm not sure. You're asking the wrong person to be honest. I rarely think anything is shit

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:28

TheVision wrote:

Is it really shit or do you just disagree with it?

Do they set out criteria for what makes a game worthy? A list of the most ground-breaking, genre-changing games would be different to a list of the games that are the most fun to play after a hard day, after all. We also need to factor in changing technology and expectations because what was impressive in 1982 isn't going to be as shocking as something released today.

Naturally, if the number of times a person plays a game is the sole metric, the world would be split into two opposing factions: Minesweeper fans and Solitaire freaks.

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