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 Post subject: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 18:19 
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Probably worth having a thread for this.
Trust everyone on here who works in the area or knows people who do is ok.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 18:23 
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The wife doesn't work on Wednesdays which is a relief. If only so I don't have to deal with any panic. Canary Wharf is a bit more secure than usual but aside from that nothing doing.

School have threatened to cancel the class trip to the portrait gallery on Friday. If they do I'll take the boy out of school and take him myself.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 18:23 
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I was going to go out drinking with an ExHOC tonight but we've cancelled because of the stupid TERRISTZ so no, I'm not all right >:(

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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 19:36 
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I was going to go out drinking with an ExHOC tonight but we've cancelled because of the stupid TERRISTZ so no, I'm not all right >:(

I hate to be flippant, but I'm pretty certain that counts as LETTING THE TERRISTZ WIN.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 21:42 
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It's practically being a collaborator.

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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:10 
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ITV news really boiled my piss last night. They were desperately trying to make this out as a horrific, large-scale terror threat and not some random, suicidal maniac with a kitchen knife. Don't get me wrong; it's awful, but it's not a coordinated attack on the scale of 7/7.

Useless, scaremongering twats!


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:22 
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I liked Ben Goldacre's tweets that we should refer to them as 'twat attacks'.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:13 
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I think it's comments on social media that annoy me most (other than the actual twats doing this of course).
On the BBC news facebook page there were people claiming that it was all fake news because there hadn't been any CCTV footage released after only a couple of hours.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:21 
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Anyone jumping to any conclusion in the immediate aftermath needs a heavy dose of eyebrow raising.

Strangely, it's no longer the widespread coordinated attack that some claimed at the time. Almost as if initial reports were rushed and inaccurate.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:53 
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Kern wrote:
I liked Ben Goldacre's tweets that we should refer to them as 'twat attacks'.


Its quite worrying really, one guy has killed 4 people and injured 40, many of the injured will never recover the quality of life they had before the attack.

All done with a car and a kitchen knife, which anyone over 18 can get hold of without alarm bells going off.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:06 
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The way I look at it the wherewithal to carry out this sort of attack is available to everyone but it's incredibly rare. Which rather suggests to me that there aren't as many of these suicidal holy fools knocking around over here as a lot of people seem to imagine.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:15 
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Kern wrote:
I liked Ben Goldacre's tweets that we should refer to them as 'twat attacks'.


Its quite worrying really, one guy has killed 4 people and injured 40, many of the injured will never recover the quality of life they had before the attack.

All done with a car and a kitchen knife, which anyone over 18 can get hold of without alarm bells going off.


And have been able to get hold of for forty years. It's not exactly a cunning game changer,that we're going to see replicated everywhere.

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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
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It also shows desperation and a lack of forethought to attack one of the most heavily secured places in the country where the emergency services will have drilled intensely for just such a situation.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:20 
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It also shows desperation and a lack of forethought to attack one of the most heavily secured places in the country where the emergency services will have drilled intensely for just such a situation.

Or: wanting maximum publicity


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:52 
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And have been able to get hold of for forty years. It's not exactly a cunning game changer,that we're going to see replicated everywhere.


So what would be used in say 1975? :p


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:54 
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And have been able to get hold of for forty years. It's not exactly a cunning game changer,that we're going to see replicated everywhere.


So what would be used in say 1975? :p

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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:02 
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It is a bizarrely low rent terror attack. Small car, kitchen knife, no follow up, no suspect packages or actual bomb, no associate to maximise the chaos. Its like he had the idea that motrning,


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
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Squirt wrote:
It is a bizarrely low rent terror attack. Small car, kitchen knife, no follow up, no suspect packages or actual bomb, no associate to maximise the chaos. Its like he had the idea that motrning,

Possibly as he was driving over the bridge.

They guy in the airport at the weekend had a shopping bag with his lunch in. Bizarre attacks of opportunity almost


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:00 
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ISIS low rent terror special.

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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:01 
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School trip has been rescheduled for 6 weeks time. So it's good to know we have an end date for DA WAR ON TERRORIZTS


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:02 
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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:03 
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
School trip has been rescheduled for 6 weeks time. So it's good to know we have an end date for DA WAR ON TERRORIZTS


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:10 
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There is a definite correlation between my turning 8 years old, and terrorists getting scared and incidents dropping off a cliff. Clearly, I am something important.

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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:17 
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Pardon my ignorance, but what happened in 1972?

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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:19 
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Bloody Sunday happened early 1972 so I guess all the fall-out from that?

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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:20 
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Just loads of The Troubles, I reckon? Bloody Sunday was in 1972, for instance, and I bet that kicked off a lot.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
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Yes, 1972 was the peak of the Troubles.

It's a reassuring sign of how far Northern Ireland's come that the most recent government there collapsed due to a run-of-the-mill incompetency scandal.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:26 
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Bloody Sunday happened early 1972 so I guess all the fall-out from that?


Yeah, but that was only 20-odd people, right? Even if you call that a terrorist attack were there really 350 or so more killed in other attacks that year?

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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
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A quick skim of a chronology I've just found hosted by Ulster University suggests so.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
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A quick skim of a chronology I've just found hosted by Ulster University suggests so.


There's a link at the bottom of that page to a register of those known to have been killed.


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:35 
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I wonder if that number includes the people killed by British soldiers?


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 Post subject: Re: Westminster attack
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Squirt wrote:
I wonder if that number includes the people killed by British soldiers?


I can't be bothered to do the maths. Chronology does indicate a lot of deaths, though 350+ still seems high, so it might include Troubles-related deaths, and things like the amusingly high number of IRA bombers who blew themselves up by mistake.

It is a lot more than I thought though. Does put things in a bit of perspective.

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