PS4 confirmed

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

It's not just concern for feeling like you get a compromised experience without upgrading, but it also means that (potentially) the new capabilities of the new hardware will be underutilized. Instead of trying to use new hardware to fundamentally change the technology a game is based on, the extra capability is just going to be used to play the same game with more pixels. Like with phones, no one is going to ignore customers without cutting edge hardware, so newer hardware is hamstrung by not being used to it's full potential in a way that more clearly defined breaks between hardware generation isn't.

It already feels like so much of the PS4's early lifetime was filled with crossgen releases, and it looks like that trend is set to continue, even if leapfrogging from PS3 and PS4 to PS4 and PS4k.

This isn't inherently the worst possible outcome, but it is a strategy with some disadvantages.

I agree that MS seem to be going in this direction with UWP (although for the immediate future I think most games played on Xbox One will still be native Xbox One games), and Nintendo are indeed planning for some kind of shared library with their next home console and handheld, with software remaining compatible on future platforms too.

TheVision · **Posted:** Tue Apr 19, 2016 16:35

Bamba wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

God knows what Nintendo will do.

Gradually piss away all their money releasing increasingly desperate and weird consoles in an attempt to recapture the Wii glory years before finally going bankrupt without ever really understanding why?

As long as they've got Pokemon, Nintendo will never go bankrupt.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue Apr 19, 2016 17:30

This could set a dangerous President!!!

Pundabaya · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5016

'Pay £300 for a new console every two years!' Um. No. Fuck off.

I could see attach rates falling through the floor, and would almost certainly do huge damage to Mono-gaming mega franchises like CoD. Who's going to want to pay £400 for two CoDs?

JohnCoffey · **Posted:** Tue Apr 19, 2016 18:34

http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Card ... re-upgrade

myp · **Posted:** Tue Apr 19, 2016 18:35

Pundabaya wrote:

'Pay £300 for a new console every two years!' Um. No. Fuck off.

I could see attach rates falling through the floor, and would almost certainly do huge damage to Mono-gaming mega franchises like CoD. Who's going to want to pay £400 for two CoDs?

People are still playing the latest CoD on the 360, they won't give a shit.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Sony's security finally gets some aspect of it's shit together:

http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/20/play ... ntication/

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5403

About time too!

myp · **Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2016 14:11

Housemarque's new game Alienation gets a good review from YerpGonks.

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5403

Excellent. I'd preordered that one.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2016 14:30

Yeah, that looks pretty ace. Only £15, too!

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5403

Had an hour or so on it tonight and it's basically Dead Nation with Aliens instead of zombies and four player coop.
Should be a nice game for a group of friends to work through.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

Hahaha my PS4 has broke, it just won't turn on any more. I've tried a different socket and a different cable.

It's outside of the manufacturer warranty (1 year) but just inside the EU Product Warranty Directive (2 years), for which I have to deal with the retailer, and the onus is on me to prove that they sold me a faulty device. Said retailer doesn't even sell PS4s or any games hardware any more. Doubt I can get a replacement, but maybe they can get it repaired for me.

Apparently Sony charge £170 for out of warranty repairs, which is Pretty Fucking Steep. Amazon occasionally sell open box systems for less than that.

Not sure what to do. I've emailed Sony and the retailer. I'll see what I can get out of them. I might have better luck with the retailer given that from SavyGamer I send them quite a lot of business.

No way I'll pay £170 to get it fixed. I probably just wait for the PS4 Neo. I've got fuckloads of stuff I've bought on PSN, so they've kind of got me by the balls.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16639

Something like thins maybe:

http://www.consolewizard.co.uk/kes/play ... rvice.html

I have no clue if these lot are any good but I'm sure there must be someone out there making a living out of doing competent repairs on PS4s.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

Oh also it doesn't help that I now live like 6000 miles away from England. I will be back later in the year for my Sister's wedding though.

Edit: Thanks for the suggestion though, I'll look into it.

romanista · **Posted:** Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:35

so out of nowhere, suddenly ps-now appeared on my ps4..; apparantly holland has been added.... started free trial, is there any must play on there?

(had some fun with raiden 4, even if it crashed out before defeating the second boss)..

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

PS4K is officially official:

https://www.engadget.com/2016/06/10/son ... not-at-e3/

Quote:

In an interview with the Financial Tmes, Sony executive Andrew House has confirmed that a new, more-powerful PlayStation 4, codenamed "Neo," is coming, but says it will not be unveiled at E3. House, who is the president and global chief executive of Sony Interactive Entertainment, says the new system will be sold alongside the existing PS4 for the entirety of this console generation. "It is intended to sit alongside and complement the standard PS4," he told the FT, "we will be selling both [versions] through the life cycle."

The new console will output both video and games at up to 4K resolution. House confirmed reports that all games released this generation will continue to support the base PS4 model. As for what the "Neo" will support, House said "all or a very large majority of games will also support the high-end PS4." We assume that means all games will run on Neo, but some may not be optimized to offer graphical improvements. Otherwise that's just crazy talk.

The rest of the interview is light on real news. House said the new console will target hardcore gamers and those with a 4K television looking for more high-res content. He noted that the console will be more expensive than the base model, which is a given, but would not give a price, a release date, or even a date when the machine would be formally announced. The one thing he did confirm? It won't be at E3 next week.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Jun 10, 2016 13:42

I assume i would not see a benefit with my non 4k tv?

myp · **Posted:** Fri Jun 10, 2016 13:42

Not having a 4K TV and not being overly interested in PSVR, I'm not sure there's a compelling case for me to get one.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

MaliA wrote:

I assume i would not see a benefit with my non 4k tv?

We don't know. But: yes, I think you will. Unless the rumours were way off and Sony have cheated the laws of physics, this thing won't be doing much gaming at 4k; rather, the extra power will go to games which are prettier at 1080p.

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14518

New firmware brings folders in

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/08/ ... resh-more/

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16639

So, so tempted to preorder one of these here virtual reality hats after reading this:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... iveclub-vr

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26095

A virtual reality hat won't keep your head very warm. You should get a real hat. They are awesome.

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5403

He only has a virtual head

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4357

markg wrote:

So, so tempted to preorder one of these here virtual reality hats after reading this:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... iveclub-vr

so will this work on my existing copy of Driveclub on my vanilla PS4?

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26095

Makes sense. In that case a real hat would probably be too heavy.

Ok, was just an idea. Maybe more suited to Davpaz.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16639

Findus Fop wrote:

markg wrote:

So, so tempted to preorder one of these here virtual reality hats after reading this:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... iveclub-vr

so will this work on my existing copy of Driveclub on my vanilla PS4?

Yeah, apparently Driveclub VR will be a free add on and this demo was just on a normal PS4.

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4357

markg wrote:

Findus Fop wrote:

markg wrote:

So, so tempted to preorder one of these here virtual reality hats after reading this:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... iveclub-vr

so will this work on my existing copy of Driveclub on my vanilla PS4?

Yeah, apparently Driveclub VR will be a free add on and this demo was just on a normal PS4.

nice! My wife finds me wearing even the PS4 headset absolutely ludicrous and ridiculous. I can only imagine her response to the VR hat.

Luckily I'll be in my own, cosy little virtual world and will have to contend with that ridicule no longer. Checkmate, Mrs Fop.

lasermink · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 1883

PS4 Slim leaks online, looks legit. (Ars Technica)

Quote:

Sony will have not one, but two consoles on show at its upcoming PlayStation Meeting event on September 7—and the first appears to have leaked online. A thinner, rounder PlayStation 4 Slim was spotted for sale on classified listings site Gumtree (now removed) via local retailer, which claimed it was due for release in three weeks. Twitter user shortman82 has since purchased the unit, unboxed it, and slapped a load of photos online.

Update: Gaming site Eurogamer has since paid a visit to the person who bought the unreleased console from the Gumtree listing and filmed a quick video showing the system working and booting into the PlayStation OS. It's extremely likely that this PS4 slim system is indeed the real deal.

The purported PS4 Slim looks considerably thinner than the original PS4, which was already a small console. The same cleaved-parallelepiped aesthetic remains, but the corners have been rounded off, while the glossy plastic section that covered the hard drive on the original PS4 has been removed entirely. While that's good for fans of fingerprint-free gadgets, it does raise questions as to whether the hard drive will be replaceable in the PS4 Slim, particularly as the listed model (CUH-2016A) only sports 500GB of storage.

romanista · **Posted:** Mon Aug 22, 2016 20:14

Oooh. This looks fun. "RIVE" by @TwoTribesGames
>upcoming fast paced 2.5D platform shooter w/ nonstop action
>september 2016
>pc, ps4 https://twitter.com/PixelProspector/sta ... 61/video/1

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Why are the connection speeds via PSN so fucking slow at the moment? 851kbps, through a fibre connectin that's showing as being 40mbps on the laptop. Is there anything I can do to speed this up? It's even causing fucking lag issues in Battlefront.

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5403

Are you wired or wireless to the router?
The wifi is pretty poor in mine.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Wireless, as is everything else. Who uses wires!?!?

The internet seems to say that PlayStations generally have had shit wireless, but this is taking the fucking piss.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2016 21:12

MrChris wrote:

Wireless, as is everything else. Who uses wires!?!?

People that care about bandwidth.

I think you may have answered your question in the first half of my quote.

Does your router have quality of service settings?

myp · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2016 21:12

MrChris wrote:

Wireless, as is everything else. Who uses wires!?!?

The internet seems to say that PlayStations generally have had shit wireless, but this is taking the fucking piss.

Wireless for gaming? You're basically asking for it. Both my PC and PS4 are connected using Ethernet powerline. The Wii U is wireless but I rarely game online with that.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Grim... wrote:

MrChris wrote:

Wireless, as is everything else. Who uses wires!?!?

People that care about bandwidth.

I think you may have answered your question in the first half of my quote.

Even with every other device switched off it's still getting a tiny fraction of the speed that the other devices are getting.

Quote:

Does your router have quality of service settings?

Dude, please

Myp - mayhap, but then I've been using wireless with the 360 for years and it's always been fine...It really shouldn't be achieving download speeds of < 1/40th of every other device.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

What's giving you that 851kb figure?

Zardoz · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2016 21:23

Cras wrote:

What's giving you that 851kb figure?

Spanx.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Cras wrote:

What's giving you that 851kb figure?

the PS4 system internet connection thing. Whilst that may not be mega accurate (or so I read) it's shitty slow - I can tell that from the download times for any given update. Whereas the 360 will slurp down a 1gb download in zippy fast time.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

Download times for updates are rarely much to do with your PS4 or its connection. They're incredibly throttled at Sony (or their CDN)'s end. That's why I was asking, you might not be getting anywhere near that bad a connection really.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2016 21:29

MrChris wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Does your router have quality of service settings?

Dude, please

I don't know if that's a yes or a no

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Grim... wrote:

MrChris wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Does your router have quality of service settings?

Dude, please

I don't know if that's a yes or a no

Who am I? WHO AM I?

It's a "I haven't a fucking clue what you're talking about"

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Cras wrote:

Download times for updates are rarely much to do with your PS4 or its connection. They're incredibly throttled at Sony (or their CDN)'s end. That's why I was asking, you might not be getting anywhere near that bad a connection really.

I'm constantly getting laggy lagness in Battlefront as well - which I wasn't getting a month or two ago.

It's all very vexing.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Lonewolves wrote:

Wireless for gaming? You're basically asking for it. Both my PC and PS4 are connected using Ethernet powerline.

There's nothing magical about powerline just because it happens to be hacked on top of an existing wire. There are many circumstances under which it can be worse than WiFi.

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5403

Cras wrote:

Download times for updates are rarely much to do with your PS4 or its connection. They're incredibly throttled at Sony (or their CDN)'s end. That's why I was asking, you might not be getting anywhere near that bad a connection really.

if I move my PS4 into the lounge it will use the full 78mb, but one floor up it can slow to a crawl - 68 hours to download 10gb. Rebooting the router and console often fixes it.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

So, just moved the router right next to the PS4, and it's shot up to 40mbps... Will try plugging it in via ethernet and see if it goes up any more. It was only 8 metres away to start with, though, FFS.

Will have to get a wireless repeater thingy so that the other end of the house can get wireless now.

Stupid PS4.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Oct 20, 2016 22:46

Do electromagnetic transmissions suffer from the inverse square law?

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

MaliA wrote:

Do electromagnetic transmissions suffer from the inverse square law?

Cannot tell if serious.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38659

Wi-Fi is somewhat directional you know. Sometimes adjusting aerials can make a big difference. If your router has multiple aerials, put one horizontal and one vertical. If it has no aerials, then make sure that the largest surface is facing the thing that needs the best signal. Routers don't tend to transmit 'backwards' very well.

Or... get a wire, you heathen.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

DavPaz wrote:

Wi-Fi is somewhat directional you know. Sometimes adjusting aerials can make a big difference. If your router has multiple aerials, put one horizontal and one vertical. If it has no aerials, then make sure that the largest surface is facing the thing that needs the best signal. Routers don't tend to transmit 'backwards' very well.

Or... get a wire, you heathen.

I've solved this already, with my massive tech skillz.

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