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 Post subject: Kate Moss sucks
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:01 
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7585440.stm

Are you fucking *kidding* me? What is it about this fucking woman? She was a vaguely-known-to-a-few-of-the-general-public 'supermodel', then gets a load of rag about being a drug-snorting moron, nips through a quick detox, and suddenly people just won't shut the fuck up about her.

Seriously, she lost a few contracts then won back more than ever, released a line of clothes (which I'm SURE SHE DESIGNED PERSONALLY), and every whisper that parts her lips is documented and fed into the media.

Am I the only one who thinks she has a very plain if not a bit minging face, with a rake-thin undesirable body and the crappest pair of boobs I've seen for some time?

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I don't really like her either. These people are roles models and should behave in an appropriate manner.

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I hate that woman. There is npthing attractive about having sex with a bloody coat hanger :/

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Another Island surely?

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I do hate hugging skinny women, it's like hugging a skeleton and is quite unpleasant.

I mean small island, Lave. If you want to get picky everything is an island, just a really fucking big one :P

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Yeah that was overly pedantic, even for me.

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I think I'll make a LOVE YOURSELF! thread :D lol.

No-one is 100% happy with how they look, but come ON, how is it right that if the supermodels turn sideways and stick out their tongues they looks like zips? Nope *shakes head* it's because the clothes hang on them nice that's why, clothes also hang nice on my coat hanger, but do I want to look like one? Nope. Very happy with my fantabulous rack thank you so much

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No-one is 100% happy with how they look

I am, I'm awesome. Haven't you seen my brain?

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I am, I'm awesome. Haven't you seen my brain?


I have dear, it was rather superlative :)

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 Post subject: Re: Reasons to move to an Island
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I personally think Kate Moss is extremely pretty - but then I have a thing for ladies with small features. Not a fan of her figure.

I think there's this awful cyclical thing going on though. The media put people in front of us every single day, because we want to hear all about famous people, for some strange reason. Then we complain that they're bad role models. Why should a model be a role model, any more than a plumber should? The more awful the story, the more we want to read about it, the more we complain about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Reasons to move to an Island
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While I do agree with you from a media perspective Craster, I think anyone that knowingly puts themselves in the public eye (such as a model) should realise they are in a position of responsability.

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Exactly, that's like me going down a busy street naked and then saying, 'Oh-I didn't know people would see me!'

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 Post subject: Re: Reasons to move to an Island
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I'm not sure why being in the public eye is a position of responsibility though. Models aren't teachers, politicians, or academics - their role in life isn't to teach us about right and wrong. We need to be wondering why people view models and other celebrities as role models, not trying to turn everyone into examples for our children - because they're flat out the wrong people to do it.

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 Post subject: Re: Reasons to move to an Island
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Because whether we like it or not most little girls want to grow up to be a model at some point in their lives. It's a very unhealthy message for a child to lean at such a young age that to be beautiful is to be a size 0. I'm not just including models in this though, the media plays a big part in it too. And Barbie dolls.

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Because whether we like it or not most little girls want to grow up to be a model at some point in their lives. It's a very unhealthy message for a child to lean at such a young age that to be beautiful is to be a size 0. I'm not just including models in this though, the media plays a big part in it too. And Barbie dolls.


Ah, now that's slightly different. That's not saying that Kate Moss is a bad role model, that's saying that the fashion industry is fostering an unhealthy culture of unrealistic body image. And I completely agree.

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Finally jab in here before wrestling the cats off the frigging bed-

Jst look at the number of kids now that are anorexic? I mean they START at 7 some of them!!

I blame Hannah Montana and those skanky Olsen's...I wonder if I can borrow Si's crossbow?

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 Post subject: Re: Reasons to move to an Island
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But she is a bad role model because she's encouraging it and (in combination with the media) is showing that to be beautiful and popular includes the taking of drugs etc. I don't just mean her or models obv. But I hope you can see where I'm (proably badly) trying to come from on this.

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 Post subject: Re: Reasons to move to an Island
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But she is a bad role model because she's encouraging it and (in combination with the media) is showing that to be beautiful and popular includes the taking of drugs etc. I don't just mean her or models obv. But I hope you can see where I'm (proably badly) trying to come from on this.


Not badly at all, and I completely understand - I just think it's naive of us as a society to call these sort of people role models when we know they are the worst kind of people. Trying to convert people like models into people who are going to be good examples to children is, face it, never going to happen. There's no point blaming them for it - let's just teach our children what values they should be looking for in real role models.

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 Post subject: Re: Reasons to move to an Island
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Yeah, the raising of celebrities to role models and authority figuers is a real problem I think.

Which makes this celebrity my new crush. (And ironically I don't know who she is)

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Are you fucking *kidding* me? What is it about this fucking woman? She was a vaguely-known-to-a-few-of-the-general-public 'supermodel', then gets a load of rag about being a drug-snorting moron, nips through a quick detox, and suddenly people just won't shut the fuck up about her.

Seriously, she lost a few contracts then won back more than ever, released a line of clothes (which I'm SURE SHE DESIGNED PERSONALLY), and every whisper that parts her lips is documented and fed into the media.

Am I the only one who thinks she has a very plain if not a bit minging face, with a rake-thin undesirable body and the crappest pair of boobs I've seen for some time?

Yes.


It's no secret why she's successful. Everything she represents professionally does better. That's empirical. That's why she's so successful as a model. I've never worked with her but I have met her a couple of times and she is nothing extraordinary to look at and yes, both occasions she was "out of it". So, you might not get it, or her and she might be an airhead, but she's like Midas when it comes to promoting companies in the fashion industry. And she works very very hard at maintaining that profile.

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Not badly at all, and I completely understand - I just think it's naive of us as a society to call these sort of people role models when we know they are the worst kind of people.


We know, but children don't. And they look up to them, admire them, and want to be like them. If your career and (substantial) income are based on being a public figure, then part of that deal is that your actions have consequences that reach further than your personal life.

Lots of people don't do drugs, and can never take drugs, not even legally (overseas maybe, like some weed in Amsterdam) because the companies they work for or want to work for carry out compulsory drugs testing. All people are really asking of Kate Moss is to not get caught. Preferably to not do anything of the kind in public. That's part of her responsibility as a role model, because she is one, as a public figure. Just like being in charge of railway line maintenance means you're responsible for the lives of others even if that isn't why you wanted the job.

Kate Moss could run a business, or work in a call centre, or whatever. She chose a career that involves a degree of responsibility for her actions. The bitter irony though, is that the size 0 model culture is likely a large pressure for taking drugs., but they're maybe two seperate issues, albeit related.

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I mean small island, Lave. If you want to get picky everything is an island, just a really fucking big one :P


Texas is an island?!?!?

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I mean small island, Lave. If you want to get picky everything is an island, just a really fudge big one :P


Texas is an island?!?!?


dunno about that, but I think some divergent evolution has taken place there, akin to the galapagos islands. I hear their like a completely different species now...

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Are you lot joking? She's fucking hot-to-trot. There's an art shop on the walk to work which often has a large black and white photo of her leaning against a car, looking stunning. I'm assuming it was very cold when this particular photo was taken. Many a morning I've had to employ my last minute lamp post avoidance skills ogling at that I can tell you.


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Are you lot joking? She's fucking hot-to-trot. There's an art shop on the walk to work which often has a large black and white photoshop of her leaning against a car, looking stunning. I'm assuming it was very cold when this particular photoshop was shopped.


FTFY.

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Yeah, the raising of celebrities to role models and authority figuers is a real problem I think.

Which makes this celebrity my new crush. (And ironically I don't know who she is)


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Bleurgh. Sorry, but she mings mercilessly.

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Kate Moss could run a business, or work in a call centre, or whatever. She chose a career that involves a degree of responsibility for her actions.[/color]


Nonsense. She chose a career where she gets to lounge around looking pretty in pretty outfits. There is, and never will be, any inherent responsibility in a career like modelling. There's a degree of responsibility in the agencies that tell them what to look like and what to wear, but that's about it.

You'll never turn someone into a role model just because you want them to be. We should be concentrating on positive role models, not bemoaning the negative ones whilst simultanously lapping up every drop of media spewn tittle-tattle which just encourages their behaviour.

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Kate Moss is only a role-model to any other aspiring fashion models (and she's bloody good at modelling). What she does in her private life has nothing to do with that.

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And besides, if the newspapers didn't keep on screaming out things like KATE MOSS IN COKE ORGY, nobody would be any the wiser.


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Kate Moss is only a role-model to any other aspiring fashion models (and she's bloody good at modelling). What she does in her private life has nothing to do with that.


Exactly. Next time you meet a little girl, ask them something - anything - about Kate Moss. 99 out of 100 won't have a clue who you're on about, much less care.

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Please do go off on a tangent whenever you're ready, people. This is a generic hate thread, y'know.

Some people think madonna is attractive, but I think she's one of the most hideously ugly people alive today. Her face is just hell, and that gappy-tooth grin? Arrrarahgh.

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She looks like a chewed boot!

I prefer the classic ladies myself.

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She's no reason to move, though. I mean, why would I ever see a news story about her (maybe for a second, but then the page would be turned, or the channel changed). And she *never* phones or calls round any more.

Now the phrase "In terms of", liberally used, especially by semi-articulate business-types as a kind of verbal tic, when most often they aren't talking 'in terms of' anything. I have many examples. But that one, and "like" might make me move. Seriously - will you help me kill them, CG? There will be a lot of killing.


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Nonsense. She chose a career where she gets to lounge around looking pretty in pretty outfits. There is, and never will be, any inherent responsibility in a career like modelling. There's a degree of responsibility in the agencies that tell them what to look like and what to wear, but that's about it.


Indeed. There are hundreds of thousands of models. How many of them have you heard of? Moss is only being put in this "she's a role model!" position because the press has fixated on her and report everything about her, raising her profile in the public consciousness and creating the cycle that Craster mentioned earlier.

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My major barriers to manual killing are the time commitment, and the fact that knives start to go blunt after the 14th victim.


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My major barriers to manual killing are the time commitment, and the fact that knives start to go blunt after the 14th victim.


Surely you've worked out how to avoid hitting bone by now?

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I shall find some wmds. To Iraq!


Do what the Americans did. Use U2 spy planes to look for them.

Oh hold on. On second thoughts, don't. They still haven't found what they're looking for.

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That's where they went wrong. Fucking hell, Bono is useless at everything, isn't he?

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My major barriers to manual killing are the time commitment, and the fact that knives start to go blunt after the 14th victim.

I would provide you with one of those super duper professional chef's knives. ;)

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They still haven't found what they're looking for.


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Oh hold on. On second thoughts, don't. They still haven't found what they're looking for.

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I can't get rid of my cats though >.<

Damnit! Science at every turn! One day I shall be able to fight my corner with evidence and then I shall be insufferable! I am already, but more so :p

I think maybe I should go back to my natural red hair, I'd have an excuse for being fiery in an arguement then. Arguements give me brain ache -_-;

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 Post subject: Re: Reasons to move to an Island
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Craster wrote:
Cats are historically extreme proponents of the scientific method. Schrodinger's cat, particularly. Then again, he may not have been.

*bang*

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