Be Excellent To Each Other

He may have suffered somewhat from the letter he sent to his mate that effectively read "Sorry for fucking your daughter"

Yep he had more or less admitted it with that letter, then he said he did have consensual sex with his daughters friend when she was of age.

Those 2 things finished him.

Don't think he will get as long as Clifford due to his age and although he is a sex pest he hasn't come across as arrogant.

Very sad for the victims and for all the people for whom he was a part of their lives growing up.

Saville always looked fucking odd, but Rolf always looked nice and normal

Although apparently he sang 'Jake the Peg' in the dock as he was being questioned. Interesting strategy.

Yes! He also explained how he invented the wibble board as well!!??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0qejLm1CRQ

Jesus, In 1985 Rolf did an anti pedo video on inappropriate touching of children, he even did a cheesy song for it!

Ah, hello phrenology, or, as my wife puts it "I don't like his face, stick him in prison".

Yeah, it's difficult to understand his thought process on that one, considering it was his idea.

"This will make me look good and i'll get more gigs"

This is so ironic, one of the kids asks him is it ok to tell on a family member who touches you up even if it means them going to jail

To which Rolf replies "yes nothing gets better by keeping quite"

Not sure he agrees with that this morning!

"If I do this video, I'll be around lots of kids!"

Guess it was his way of trying to make things right in his own mind

I was at sports therapist last night, he was telling me his brother broke his neck when he was younger and was in Stoke Mandeville for a couple of years.

He said Saville worked his nuts off for the place, raised money, bussed in celebrities at the weekend to cheer them up and would sit for hours with people who didn't have visitors.

Almost like they think one extreme behaviour cancels our another which it doesn't

No one can deny that Saville and Harris did some good works, or even that (on balance) they were apparently good men. But both have them have been shown to be the worst type of sexual predator, preying on the weak and undefended and hiding behind their good works as a shield.

I hope that these convictions demonstrate to the world that no-one is untouchable and it's never too late to tell your story.

Sorry. Got a bit serious there.

'cept the kiddies.

Just remembered my parents have an original Harris landscape they paid decent money for hanging in the living room. Time to take it down, but keep it as it'll be worth a fortune in years to come - just look at Hitler's paintings now...

Godwin factor 3

Just after all the Saville stuff came out some guy sold his Jim'll fix it badge and details of what he got it for on Ebay. He met Nigel Havers I thinks

And Rebekah Brooks.

I've got a bit of a thing for her.

Who'd have known you'd have a thing for strong redheads?

Just don't tell my wife.

Or Craster. He thinks Malia only loves the weak redheads, and that he's special.

Yeah, to be fair, about 5 years ago Rebecca Brooks would've got it, I have to say.

She could write my assessment afterwards.

Amanda Knox is Grim...'s favorite convict.

Cripes, I like my women strong and feisty, but that might be a tad much, even for me. Imagine pissing her off...

Oh, and Rolf Harris? Dirty, shameful old bastard, is all I can say in the matter. Hope he gets the "hey, you've dropped the shower soap, Rolf" treatment inside.
Fecking nonces, all coming out the woodwork.

I've said too much.

I think the queen has one, too, do they're in great company...












(Yes, I know she doesn't actually own the portrait of her in her private collection, before some forum pedant goes on the bore...)

Loads of people trying to flog Rolf Prints and drawings on EBay

On another forum I use, some of the comments are pretty much unbelievable. Basically saying that all the victims are making it up for the money, despite him being convicted of some nasty shit. It's precisely that kind of attitude that puts people off making complaints.

Buyer's market!


There's got to be some of that going on in this Yewtree thing though, right?

I mean, surely that many people wouldn't have kept quiet for so long?

I think that sadly it is inevitable that some people will exploit the awful things that some people have endured as a chance to get some compensation, but I think the evidence in t'is case, with the letter and so forth, makes this difficult to see how anyone could think that all the victims are lying.

Oh yeah, I'm sure there might be some trying it on, but being cross examined in court isn't going to be pleasant or easy to persuade people that a fake assault happened. Quite often the case hinges on victims with no connection all describing similar events.

Just dismissing everyone as a fraud with absolutely no ideas of what they have or haven't experienced is pretty shitty behaviour.

If there is to be compensation then it should be equal

There are thousands of people abused by perverts who don't have multimillion pound estates who get either nothing or some sort of government pay out maybe?

His wife and daughter appeared to be aware of his affairs with women of legal age (as well as the one he lied about with his daughters best friend) but not that he was abusing kids.

So I don't think its fair that they should have their estate wiped out, more so as a good part of the cost will be on lawyers.

Also legally maybe 50% of his estate would belong to his wife, so if she has any brains she will divorce him.

Back on the topic of his "Child safety" film that has been pulled from Youtube saying that the Guardian paper has copyright, when I watched it yesterday it was copyrighted to Rolf Harris.

Registering a complaint that you'd been abused by Rolf Harris feels a little shakier than if you'd made that complaint during the trial, or after he'd been found not guilty. Each of those circumstances seem a little less potentially opportunistic, maybe.

Similarly whilst I don't doubt that Saville abused a lot of people, I also suspect that a lot of people who claim that they were abused weren't. With Saville the estate is there, the compensation pot from the BBC is there, but the court case isn't. I would however be very surprised if we don't see some cases brought in respect of false claims there.

5 years and 9 months for Rolf.

A smidge on the short side, but probably takes into account he won't live long enough to see it through anyway.

An elderly man was sentenced for a similar charge earlier in the day and got four years.

They also have to follow guidelines of when the offence was done. So by 1970s standards.

This is quite steep considering his age, but his deserves jail.

I was thinking 4 years, around half of what Max Clifford got, the judge gave him Consecutive sentences, largely due to his arrogance.

Think Clifford will get a reduction at appeal (sadly)

According to some of the reports I read, Clifford can't afford to be "reduced" any more.

If you smell what I'm cooking? Yeah, I'm alluding to him having a very small penis.

So next up its Leon Briton and the "Dossier" of alleged establishment pedo’s that conveniently went missing 30 odd years ago when he was Home Secretary

I’m willing to wager Saville shows up in this if it’s ever found, which hopefully it will be. By all accounts Leon's memory is not what is used to be bless him. Maybe some time will Rolf and Max Clifford will help jog it

Called it!

Sort of.

Our longstanding celebrities are either killing themselves or turning out to be paedos. It must be very difficult for those that emotionally invest in such things.

They'll replay the footage of Cliff singing to the crowd on a rainy Wimbledon day, and remark how you could tell he was filth even back then.

Amusing the BBC's original article covering Saville's death popped up in Most Read this week. It made for quite amusing reading of the initial reactions where everyone said he was an ace, lovely person who would be sorely missed, with similar statements from the Royals et al.

Pretty shameful really because by all accounts his true nature was an open secret in showbiz circles. There's a lot of culpability there I feel. Fair enough you might have nothing to go to the police with but you don't have to keep on giving the cunt kids shows to host, or any shows at all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28790718

Cliff is having his Berkshire house searched today, its in connection with an allegation from the 1980's in South Yorkshire so maybe the time and date is wrong on the Police sat navs

If he turns out to have been a wrong 'un then my Dad and Stepmother are gonna freak; they love him and have been to his house in Barbados.

EDIT - As guests, not like a pilgrimage or anything

He came round for tea when I was a kid and lived next to Sue Barker, as they dated for a bit apparently...
Sue also dated Daley Thompson, and he came round for tea too.

We're trying to find the pictures of Mrs T when she met Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris as a kid, to start our own little Yewtree gallery on facebook...