Be Excellent To Each Other

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I dont get the arguments over who the 'third' mafia person is - there are 6 players and you need a majority (ie 4) to vote someone out.

So if there are 3 mafia you wont get that and tonight the mafia will all steal from the remaining town and kill one of them for the game to end tomorrow.

If there are only 2 mafia then today *all* the remaining townies need to vote for the correct baddie which is not going to happen.

If it's 3:3 then today is merely a chance for moving money around.

Yep.

Tonight, you mean - isn't "today" a waste of time if there are three of them?

But at least craster didn't lose, despite being monumentally bad at making money.

If they lynch a townie there won't be a tonight.

If there are three of them there shouldn't be a "today" (under the normal rules, anyway).

Yeah, but under this game rules it stops when they outnumber, not when the townies can no longer survive.

I like that I didn't earn or steal all game but still didn't come last

Aye. I put that in because I thought that it was a bit unfair to the mafia otherwise. However, it seems that if the town don't actually try and lynch anyone, or even vote, then that massively favours the mafia. Who knew!

It'll all come down to tonight and moving money around, and the order of when the steals came in.

That answers whether there are three then

Oops! Still that was pretty much a given for the amount of players, wasn't it?

Hypothetically, the mafia probably think they have won this now, and hypothetically they might start to think about winning the individual competition, and hypothetically one of them might have sent me an action that is backstabbing one of their own already...

This has the potential for great belming.

So if your one of the 3 remaining mafia - if you join in with a vote against another mafia person that all the townies are agreed upon they are dead (removed from the game) , you then kill another townie overnight and thats you down to 2 townies and 2 mafia ......

Thats then very interesting because in theory you could get the townies to vote for the other mafia (you cant possibly be bad because you put in the killing vote) , kill another townie overnight then its 1v1 (and you then kill the townie that night?)

Should I remind them all that you don't win by being alive, you win by having the most money, both for yourself and for your faction?

Some of them don't seem to have cottoned on to that, or maybe they are playing dumb?

Im sure when we discussed this bearlier, only live people counted towards the faction....

Yes. But if it's three mafia and two townies and the two townies have more money than the three mafia do, that's a win for the town. Of course, that's unlikely considering the mafia will have more people and the ability to co-ordinate steals.

Unless, of course, what the mafia agree amongst themselves as their overnight actions, turns out to be a lie as one of them is going for an individual win too...

only of they choose yo cooperate. As before, it's a crap shoot.

Also. Have they learned nothing? Russ.is always the mafia don.

If Myp is playing dumb on how to win the game, then he is a very good actor...

Should I repost the rules in the thread?

Nah, its up to them to read them and/or correct him.

Yeah, that's the conclusion I've come to. Fuck em if they can't read

And the town cant work out that discussing their plans in front of the mafia is a bad thing ?

So... currently the Mafia are ahead in their total, which in an even fight where everyone is going to steal, actually puts them in a worse position. However, the ability to take one of the other team out of the game gives them the advantage back. But then the order of the steals happening on the order that I get sent them, if anyone has worked that out yet, then that gives them an advantage. If the mafia steal first, then the town steal back, then even if there are only 2 left, they will most likely have the most cash.

A winning tactic for the mafia might be to not actually do anything, and just kill the townie with the most money.

Someone should try and work the combinations out with a spreadsheet or something...

Curio and Russ, ehhhhh?

/smug

Why didn't you get them killed then?

I think the no-kill is an interesting option - what about if the mafia just donate to a single person and get them up to a large amount of cash then 2 of them steal from them that night and someone steals from another random townie.

That would leave the town with one person on zero and the mafia with more cash ?

The mafia are totally in control here and could have this go on for another week with nothing but a strange airplane shaped dot in the distance to worry them :-)

Yeah. Not going to happen due to individual wins.

Nothing to go on until day 5, really.

Not much to go on then either, to be honest.

So for individual wins I still think 'not ending the game' works best for the mafia - do what they like for the next 4 or 5 days and there is much more money to go around ?

If they all just invest / steal / whatever for a few days the money that everyone has will be much greater than the amount that anyone who's dead holds ?

Not much to go on? Just use a chomp wrapper in that case. Guaranteed* to work.

* - Not actually guaranteed.

When I got half the votes I looked through for someone to call up and go one-one-one with, but there wasn't anybody

That would be incredibly boring though. If they opt not to kill tonight, I'll probably do something about that, tomorrow.
I would be surprised if it went on that long though. There is no don, and I'll accept the first kill action sent to me by any of the mafia. They haven't asked whether that is how it works, but then I haven't told them that either, as one of them has taken it upon himself to be the spokesman and send in the kill action, so it hasn't come up.

I expect they would realise though, and one of them would get greedy...

You should have let it run until only one person remained.

That's not a bad idea actually! If there is no kill tonight, i'll do that.

Oh holy shit. If one of the mafia realises that and sends in a kill on one of their own, that could be fun.

Love it! No one will be investing tonight; should be interesting.

The game is definitely over tonight, but i'm just waiting on the last two townies to give me their night actions. Depending on who they steal from, they could either win or lose the game for the Town

I wonder if I could end up winning this...

Oops, slight miscalculation on my part, the town can't win now. Just waiting on one more to see the final individual standings.

You know, I reckon Curio might be in the mafia.

Brilliant! Sat, you belm!

So I deaded right at the end.

So, anyone who threw my name into the mafia lists, any particular reason?

He was dead before I started the spreadsheet!

Who is getting immunity tonight, dead folk?

If there's no other vote, roll a dice for me

1. Cras
2. Mimi
3. Zeppo
4. Goddess Jasmine
5. Saturnalian
6. sdg

Wrong thread, chaps.

Oh yeah.

Never mind