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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:53 
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gospvg wrote:
The problem with this game is that in the first few days if you talk too much the finger of suspicion gets pointed at you, potentially we could lose three people to the night actions do we really want to vote Kovac out also potentially losing a 4th when we have nothing to go on?


Voting patterns, and the conversation the votes bring up are the only power we have. If we do nothing today, we are in the same position tomorrow, with no more information but more dead townies.


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:53 
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Being of the squeaking group, any lynch is better than no lynch, and everyone except Grim... knows that, so KovacsC it is.

All the times the town hasn't lynched on the first day it's gone on to win*


*may not be true

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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:53 
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I know it feels like we're being hasty,
But with our power, we shouldn't be waste-y


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:54 

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Mr Russell Sprouts wrote:
gospvg wrote:
The problem with this game is that in the first few days if you talk too much the finger of suspicion gets pointed at you, potentially we could lose three people to the night actions do we really want to vote Kovac out also potentially losing a 4th when we have nothing to go on?


The lynch is the town's only power. You really don't want to argue against it.


Yes it is the towns only power but I think we should only use that power if we have a certainty & Kovac has said or done nothing.
I also know that I am digging a big hole for myself now & I should just shutup.


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:54 
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DavPaz wrote:
I know it feels like we're being hasty,
But with our power, we shouldn't be waste-y


:facepalm: We're voting for DavPaz tomorrow, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:55 

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Fuck it only one way to find out

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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
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Not voted: 6 (zaphod79, gazchap, squirt, joans, sharp suit, goddess jasmine)

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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
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zaphod79: 1 (Bobbyaro)
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nickachu: 2 (KovacsC, Santanalian)
kovacsc: 8 (Grim..., Cras Kringle, SilentNight, Mr Russell Sprouts, nickachu, Trooper, DavPaz, gospvg)

Not voted: 6 (zaphod79, gazchap, squirt, joans, sharp suit, goddess jasmine)

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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:57 
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Grim... wrote:
*may not be true


Definitely not true !

Therefore everyone should vote from Grim... for saying something wrong :-)

[vote:KovacsC]


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:59 

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zaphod79 wrote:
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*may not be true


Definitely not true !

Therefore everyone should vote from Grim... for saying something wrong :-)

[vote:KovacsC]


Possibly but either way tomorrow after the night actions the town is going to be a lot wiser.


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:00 
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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:01 
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Your cards are marked and soon you'll go.
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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:06 
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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:18 
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DavPaz wrote:
Your cards are marked and soon you'll go.
Merry xmas, ho ho ho!

(sorry)


Your Christmas cards are marked, y'mean? Aye? Aye!? AYE?


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:20 
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Santanalian wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Your cards are marked and soon you'll go.
Merry xmas, ho ho ho!

(sorry)


Your Christmas cards are marked, y'mean? Aye? Aye!? AYE?


*glares*

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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:20 
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gospvg wrote:
Mr Russell Sprouts wrote:
gospvg wrote:
The problem with this game is that in the first few days if you talk too much the finger of suspicion gets pointed at you, potentially we could lose three people to the night actions do we really want to vote Kovac out also potentially losing a 4th when we have nothing to go on?


The lynch is the town's only power. You really don't want to argue against it.


Yes it is the towns only power but I think we should only use that power if we have a certainty & Kovac has said or done nothing.
I also know that I am digging a big hole for myself now & I should just shutup.


Shut up for your own protection? Don't be a wuss. You've got a good point here.

The town ought be looking at voting patterns and that guff Mr Dave always goes on about. There has already been a surge of voting and an attempt by people to distance themselves from it. We should be looking at that surge and taking an educated punt at one of those rather than someone who has said and done nowt.


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:22 
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Santanalian wrote:
The town ought be looking at voting patterns and that guff Mr Dave always goes on about.

Mr Dave hasn't played online for... A year? Two?

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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:23 
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Yeah, but he was ace at it.


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:31 

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Santanalian wrote:
gospvg wrote:
Mr Russell Sprouts wrote:
gospvg wrote:
The problem with this game is that in the first few days if you talk too much the finger of suspicion gets pointed at you, potentially we could lose three people to the night actions do we really want to vote Kovac out also potentially losing a 4th when we have nothing to go on?


The lynch is the town's only power. You really don't want to argue against it.


Yes it is the towns only power but I think we should only use that power if we have a certainty & Kovac has said or done nothing.
I also know that I am digging a big hole for myself now & I should just shutup.


Shut up for your own protection? Don't be a wuss. You've got a good point here.

The town ought be looking at voting patterns and that guff Mr Dave always goes on about. There has already been a surge of voting and an attempt by people to distance themselves from it. We should be looking at that surge and taking an educated punt at one of those rather than someone who has said and done nowt.


My only concern was that I seemed to be trying to defend Kovac & if he ended up being Mafia then the town would turn against me. In the end I decided to vote for Kovac because it will give us an answer either way. I still have my suspicions on Joan why make the comment about Kovac & not vote for him?


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:32 
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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:35 
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I would lync Nic, as he never reads the rules or threads......

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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:39 

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zaphod79: 1 (Bobbyaro)
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nickachu: 2 (KovacsC, Santanalian)
kovacsc: 9 (Grim..., Cras Kringle, SilentNight, Mr Russell Sprouts, nickachu, Trooper, DavPaz, gospvg, zaphod79)

Not voted: 5 (gazchap, squirt, joans, sharp suit, goddess jasmine)

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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:40 

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[vote:unvote]


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:41 

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I need to time to read through the thread & think so unvote for now.


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:52 
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Gos, you're being unbelivably suspicious, just FYI :)

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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
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Ok reading the thread & the rules again the Mafia have an advantage in that they can communicate with each other. the only two people who have remotely shown any remorse to Kovac is moi & Santanalian. If Kovac was mafia I would have expected at least one other person to try to save him which has not happened so i'm going out on a limb here and saying Kovac is not Mafia. He could be the demented elf or scrooge but not sure on those yet.

Looking through the players who have voted for Kovac 9 (Grim..., Cras Kringle, SilentNight, Mr Russell Sprouts, nickachu, Trooper, DavPaz, gospvg, zaphod79)

Let's give Grimm the benefit of the doubt for testing the vote system but then he has not unvoted?
Silent night, Nikachu, Cras, Zaphod all voted for Kovac in quick succession. I am going to say one of them is Mafia.

So what do you think town? any sense in my thoughts?


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:54 

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Cras Kringle wrote:
Gos, you're being unbelivably suspicious, just FYI :)

Nope I just talk too much.


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:54 
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gospvg wrote:
If Kovac was mafia I would have expected at least one other person to try to save him which has not happened so i'm going out on a limb here and saying Kovac is not Mafia.


Someone has tried to save him - you :)

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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
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Gos and Kovacs sitting in a tree,
S-C-U-M-(M)-I-N-G!


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:57 

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DavPaz wrote:
Gos and Kovacs sitting in a tree,
S-C-U-M-(M)-I-N-G!
Cras Kringle wrote:
gospvg wrote:
If Kovac was mafia I would have expected at least one other person to try to save him which has not happened so i'm going out on a limb here and saying Kovac is not Mafia.


Someone has tried to save him - you :)


This is what I wanted to see who would be the first to point the finger at me for trying to save Kovac. I think the town should vote for either Cras or DavPaz.


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:58 

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[vote:Cras Kringle]


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
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Nobody has a single reason to defend any other person on Day 1 except for people in a team.

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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
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gospvg wrote:
Let's give Grimm the benefit of the doubt for testing the vote system but then he has not unvoted?

For lols.

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Cras Kringle wrote:
Nobody has a single reason to defend any other person on Day 1 except for people in a team.

:this:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:01 
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Also my friend my motivation's clear.
I'll take any chance I see to rhyme until it is New Year.


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I'm rather assuming DP has to post in rhyme, rather than him just being really, really bored.

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Should not an elf be tasked to bring,
A little festive cheer?
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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
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Cras Kringle wrote:
I'm rather assuming DP has to post in rhyme, rather than him just being really, really bored.

Possible secret role then wonder if he has a night action?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:10 

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Cras Kringle wrote:
Nobody has a single reason to defend any other person on Day 1 except for people in a team.

Exactly why the lack of people defending Kovac implies he is not Mafia. He was on 9 votes including mine so could have been killed off which to me shows that he is not mafia.


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:11 

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Silent night, Nikachu, Cras, Zaphod all voted for Kovac in quick succession. I am going to say one of them is Mafia.

From the above Cras you were the quickest to reply thus that's the reason I voted for you.


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gospvg wrote:
Cras Kringle wrote:
I'm rather assuming DP has to post in rhyme, rather than him just being really, really bored.

Possible secret role then wonder if he has a night action?

No secret to my witty rhymes,
I just wanted to give good times!
These little ditty are a cinch,
But I'll stop it for you, GRINCH!


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gospvg wrote:
Cras Kringle wrote:
I'm rather assuming DP has to post in rhyme, rather than him just being really, really bored.

Possible secret role then wonder if he has a night action?

No secret to my witty rhymes,
I just wanted to give good times!
These little ditty are a cinch,
But I'll stop it for you, GRINCH!


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
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gospvg wrote:
Cras Kringle wrote:
Nobody has a single reason to defend any other person on Day 1 except for people in a team.

Exactly why the lack of people defending Kovac implies he is not Mafia. He was on 9 votes including mine so could have been killed off which to me shows that he is not mafia.


YOU'RE DEFENDING HIM!

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Cras Kringle wrote:
gospvg wrote:
Cras Kringle wrote:
Nobody has a single reason to defend any other person on Day 1 except for people in a team.

Exactly why the lack of people defending Kovac implies he is not Mafia. He was on 9 votes including mine so could have been killed off which to me shows that he is not mafia.


YOU'RE DEFENDING HIM!


Nope I'm happy to vote for him & did just want to see the reactions of some other players to my suggestions. It is always good to see the reactions for the town to help decide on future lynches.


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
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No, you're really defending him.

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2pm is the end of day one so we only have a few more hours to decide if Kovac takes the fall or we switch to another option my suggestion would be Cras. Although I really do have a dislike for quiet players so Joans or Sharp Suit could be another option.


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I now look guilty as I am being defended...


I will sharpen my own noose :DD

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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
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Cras Kringle wrote:
No, you're really defending him.

If I was I would not have voted for him & am happy to have the deciding vote for him again if another elf votes for him.


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 Post subject: Re: Xmas Scum Day One
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gospvg wrote:
Although I really do have a dislike for quiet players so Joans or Sharp Suit could be another option.

But not Squirt, SDG or Jazzy? Interesting.

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