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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:44 
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Well, shit. Trooper was clearly lying. So Gaz is off the hook (for now).

Does anyone else want to claim to be Dawn?


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Unvote on SilentElk for the moment. He's way too near a lynch and we totally have loads of time to discover stuff

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 Post subject: Re: Tuesday 3
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:50 
[vote:silentelk]

I don't buy it


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I investigated GazChap on the first night and was told he was a schoolboy. Obviously he hadn't turned into a werewolf at that point.

Where's this notion that I've turned into a werewolf coming from?


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So, like, anyway, you guys, I think there are more baddies out there than just the vampires. Also, Evil Willow seems to exist (according to Cras), so we need to find her too. We might be able to suss her out and know stuff for the next day.

I agree that Spike needs to die now, the loser, but we have all day.

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I don't buy it


Unvote. You moron!

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 Post subject: Re: Tuesday 3
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GazChap wrote:
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I investigated GazChap on the first night and was told he was a schoolboy. Obviously he hadn't turned into a werewolf at that point.

Where's this notion that I've turned into a werewolf coming from?


Oz is a werewolf.

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Also, Evil Willow seems to exist (according to Cras), so we need to find her too.


That's not role-based info, by the way. 'Bored now' is a definite quote.

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I'll unvote for now, don't see us getting us much more info though.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuesday 3
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Oz is a werewolf.

Well, in the "canon", but shouldn't we wait before I'm told that I'm a werewolf before we start throwing around things like that? :P


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 Post subject: Re: Tuesday 3
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It would also make perfect sense. Trooper outed himself as Dawn to give himself an excuse for why you didn't kill him overnight. Why would he do that if you actually hadn't attacked him? And he said you turned into a 'thing'. That would fit with being a werewolf, as would a night action that you have no memory of.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuesday 3
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I'll unvote for now, don't see us getting us much more info though.

[vote:unvote]


Like, that Xander guy might know Willow, and if she's gone all heinous on us, knowing her might be cool.

What flipped Willow into Evil Willow on TV?

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Unless he is not a wear wolf yet.


In the series was he a WW from the beginning?

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Investigated someone who's conveniently role claimed? Weak. My vote stands.

I know it sounds weak, but I'm not going to lie.

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And he can't have known you were Oz, because their investigate only tells them if their target is one of Buffy's friends.

By the way, if Xander targeted Willow for smoochies, presumably he knows who she is.

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Well, Xander knows who willow is so could tell us, like!

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Well, Xander knows who willow is so could tell us, like!

I agree.


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 Post subject: Re: Tuesday 3
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And he can't have known you were Oz, because their investigate only tells them if their target is one of Buffy's friends.

He didn't say I was Oz.

Also, am I missing something, but how do we know that Willow is evil?


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 Post subject: Re: Tuesday 3
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Uh, well, again I don't really know what's going on. As said yesterday, I'm a "pretty cool" schoolboy, who is called Daniel "Oz" Osbourne. I don't know if that's good or bad though, being unfamiliar with this universe.

I tried to get with someone last night, who I've been told was Willow, but I was interrupted by someone who fucked it all up and then ran off into the night before I could see who he was.

So, uh, yeah - I don't know whether that constitutes a valid defence or not, other than that what I was told overnight doesn't match up with what Trooper says happened.



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Seriously Gaz, watch Buffy you twonk. It's a requirement of your continuing membership of this forum.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuesday 3
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Uh, well, again I don't really know what's going on. As said yesterday, I'm a "pretty cool" schoolboy, who is called Daniel "Oz" Osbourne. I don't know if that's good or bad though, being unfamiliar with this universe.

I tried to get with someone last night, who I've been told was Willow, but I was interrupted by someone who fucked it all up and then ran off into the night before I could see who he was.

So, uh, yeah - I don't know whether that constitutes a valid defence or not, other than that what I was told overnight doesn't match up with what Trooper says happened.



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He said no-one said he was called Oz!

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He said no-one said he was called Oz!

Malc

Yesterday I said I was a pretty cool schoolboy, I didn't say I was called Oz.

I said I was Oz today.

Is it just me, or is the sun really bright today? I've not been able to take my pretty cool shades off all day.


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Angel said you turned into a 'thing'. That makes sense if you turned into a Werewolf. He couldn't have said that because he knew you were Oz, because he didn't know who you were. Therefore it suggests that is a true interpretation of what happened to him overnight, even though he lied about why he survived.

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And he can't have known you were Oz

Ah, sorry, misread that originally.


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 Post subject: Re: Tuesday 3
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He said no-one said he was called Oz!

Malc

Yesterday I said I was a pretty cool schoolboy, I didn't say I was called Oz.

I said I was Oz today.

Is it just me, or is the sun really bright today? I've not been able to take my pretty cool shades off all day.


Are you now claiming to be the turned vampire?

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Gaz,

What's in this for you? What do you need to consider yourself a winner?

I believe you're this cool Oz guy, but are you still going to go out and kill people? Coz that's not cool.

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I think GazChap should go away and come back when he's seen Buffy.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuesday 3
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Are you now claiming to be the turned vampire?

No. Guess it's just me, then.

Curio: My win condition is just to survive, but I'd be super-happy if I survive and have a girlfriend at the end of the game apparently.


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 Post subject: Re: Tuesday 3
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Wow, ok, things have gotten interesting. I'm in the car so I might take ages to type.

I still think kovacs is a real worry. That role claim is just not in keeping with the other roles and I flat out don't believe it.

Angels role description is a bit complicated but did anyone else notice it mentions Jonathan? Personally, I hate Jonathan and I am also terrified of him. He could have contributed to Willows state of mind.

I completely agree with Craster that 'bored now' has to be Willow, it's a direct quote that I've heard her say before when I've happened to be sitting near her in the library, gazing dreamily at her.

Now, I also sometimes see willow in the magic box and the types of books she looks at scare me a little. It is possible that she could be using to much black magic and it could start to change her. If that happened, and I have no evidence it has, then triggers would be magic addiction or extreme pain, like losing a loved one. I don't think anything else would trigger it, but maybe she can hook up with a bad character if they find her, or maybe just being found by Jonathan would drive her crazy. Those two are mortal enemies.

I think our priorities right now are find and kill spike, then find and kill Jonathan. I am going to FOS kovacs as one of them and either malc or elk as the other.

If the vampires have recruited, can their recruits then recruit?

Gazchap is also concerning. Werewolves are harmless most of the time but during full moons they have no control at all. If oz had a girlfriend and he was wolfed out, he would attack his girlfriend. Maybe he has a role where he attacks a random character at night and doesn't know it?


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 Post subject: Re: Tuesday 3
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I agree with your logic... but can you name any vanilla chars in Buffy at the school?

Perhaps the GM just choose names to pad out after the power roles were located.

If you FOS me and elk, why not get rid of Elk then?

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why not get rid of Elk then?

Because I'm Giles and that would be a very bad idea for the school.

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But two of you have claimed the same thing

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why not get rid of Elk then?

Because I'm Giles and that would be a very bad idea for the school.


Who did you investigate night 2?

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Where has it been said that Willow is evil? Because if that's confirmed, and her being evil is definitely bad for the school, then I can identify her.


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Cras wrote:
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why not get rid of Elk then?

Because I'm Giles and that would be a very bad idea for the school.


Who did you investigate night 2?

sdg. Schoolgirl.

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Bollocks you did.

Investigations take 2 nights (and you have to target the same person both nights)

I was surprised I got the result of my investigation before I sent my 2nd message. But I did. Hence the message.

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Where has it been said that Willow is evil? Because if that's confirmed, and her being evil is definitely bad for the school, then I can identify her.


'Bored now', from Angel's death description, is a very deliberate Evil Willow quote.

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Oh, and they take 2 nights, because I have to study the books, and reading takes a long time.

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GazChap wrote:
Where has it been said that Willow is evil? Because if that's confirmed, and her being evil is definitely bad for the school, then I can identify her.


Angel died from what appears to be, like, some kind of magic. The phrase heard at the time is a direct quote from Willow when she was in a bad mood.

There is, I guess, you guys, no real reason it couldn't be someone trying to shift blame on to Willow though.

I don't know who Willow is, but some people do. Do we, as a class, think we should know or not? I'm torn.

That said, I think we know more than half of the cast now.

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I think we all need to know. I reckon she can defend herself.


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Oh, and they take 2 nights, because I have to study the books, and reading takes a long time.

Malc

Sorry, but I'm inclined to believe that you're evil now, rather than misguided. Here's my role description:

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You are Giles. You are a watcher, and you are fucking awesome. You may want to pretend to be a schoolboy if you want to hide from the vampires.

You want to kill Drusilla and you'd be super-happy if you kill all the vampires.

As a watcher you can choose to investigate someone during the night phase. You will find out what their alignment is, but not their name.

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Controversy!

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Hmmm... [vote:malc]


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That win condition doesn't make sense, my primary win condition is to get rid of ALL the baddies, but my super happy role is to make sure Buffy survives (what else is the point of a watcher if not to watch and protect the slayer? )

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That win condition doesn't make sense, my primary win condition is to get rid of ALL the baddies, but my super happy role is to make sure Buffy survives (what else is the point of a watcher if not to watch and protect the slayer? )

Malc

I can see you've really had a good think of what to say in this situation. All I can say is that's not what I've been given, and I'm Giles. Whatever you think Giles' role should be, it's really not.

I've investigated both Craster and sdg and they are good. I even said Cras was good in my note. You've already admitted you didn't leave that note. :)

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Grim... wrote:
Less of the meta, Giles's.



is this a big hint.... ??

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KovacsC wrote:
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is this a big hint.... ??

Two Gileses? Very unlikely, I'd surmise.

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Davpaz, why would I roleclaim as the watcher and claim that SilentElk being the other vampire if I Was the baddie? shortly after Trooper had died?

What possible reason would there be to expose myself? I would be found out if I was wrong, and killed the next day. and my team would be down 2 people.

It makes far more sense for me to be telling the truth, and SilentElk to be responding to that.

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