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 Post subject: Nairobi Westgate
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 23:28 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24191606


My brother, his wife and kids and my parents where shopping in this mall 4 weeks ago on holiday

Just shows how close you can come to things.

My brother told me tonight he will never leave the UK for a holiday again


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 Post subject: Re: Nairobi Westgate
PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 23:31 
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Kenya has been on the 'avoid unnecessary travel' list for a while, hasn't it? Crazy to holiday there.


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 Post subject: Re: Nairobi Westgate
PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:08 
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DavPaz wrote:
Kenya has been on the 'avoid unnecessary travel' list for a while, hasn't it? Crazy to holiday there.


I don't know, I don't think you should ever go to such places with your eyes wide shut, but to give up entirely is to give in. Statistically over the last decade you're massively in the clear. Consider the chances of being killed in a pub bombing going drinking in Birmingham in the 70's for example. Horrible stuff but with only 39 dead... more were killed in the London bombings. Or in Oslo. Or Virginia Tech. Or New York. Or Moscow. Or Luxor. Or Bali. Or the New Zealand earthquake in Christchurch...

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 Post subject: Re: Nairobi Westgate
PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:12 
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https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/kenya

Parts of it to be avoided, not including Nairobi apparently.


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 Post subject: Re: Nairobi Westgate
PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:38 
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NervousPete wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Kenya has been on the 'avoid unnecessary travel' list for a while, hasn't it? Crazy to holiday there.


I don't know, I don't think you should ever go to such places with your eyes wide shut, but to give up entirely is to give in. Statistically over the last decade you're massively in the clear. Consider the chances of being killed in a pub bombing going drinking in Birmingham in the 70's for example. Horrible stuff but with only 39 dead... more were killed in the London bombings. Or in Oslo. Or Virginia Tech. Or New York. Or Moscow. Or Luxor. Or Bali. Or the New Zealand earthquake in Christchurch...

There are stats, and then there is context.

Virginia Tech and Christchurch are isolated events. Nobody is going to massacre people in Norway again any time soon. Kenya have been warned for some time by Al-Shabab that they were going to be attacked for their involvement in Somalia. So that's more like New York - the information was there in both cases - but America has miles better security than Kenya.

Admittedly, Kenya will up the security now.

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 Post subject: Re: Nairobi Westgate
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DavPaz wrote:
Kenya has been on the 'avoid unnecessary travel' list for a while, hasn't it? Crazy to holiday there.
I don't think it's ever been off it. Kenya is still one of the few bits of Africa I'd happily go back to though.

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 Post subject: Re: Nairobi Westgate
PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:40 
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I've been there trying to buy bras.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:55 
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I've been there trying to buy bras.


They fit you beautifully.

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 Post subject: Re: Nairobi Westgate
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:23 
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DavPaz wrote:
Kenya has been on the 'avoid unnecessary travel' list for a while, hasn't it? Crazy to holiday there.



It was part of a trip with his inlaws, they have some business and a farm out there, don't thing they spent much time in the Shopping Mall.


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