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 Post subject: Cleveland Nutter Sentenced Today
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 16:29 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23534845

No question this nutter should ever get out of prison, but the Americans make such a meal of sending him down.

He has done a deal with the prosecutors to avoid a death sentence. This deal is life plus 1000 years!

I mean what the hell is the point of sentence like that? Life with no chance of parole would do.

Now they are showing live court debate where each side can call witness prior to sentencing, it won’t make a shit of difference as he is getting life plus 1000 years!


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland Nutter Sentenced Today
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 21:53 
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I always wondered about "life plus..." sentences.

Do they really want his corpse stinking up the place for a millennium?


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland Nutter Sentenced Today
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 17:52 
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parole comes up way before the term runs out, because imprisonment is supposed to be rehabilitation not just punishment so you can be good and earn time off, that and life doesn't mean life so they to go 'AND ONE! AND ONE AND ONE!' to get round it. it's that or change the law.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland Nutter Sentenced Today
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Life is 99 years in the UK.

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Grim... wrote:
Life is 99 years in the UK.


Citation needed.

I was under the impression that it was actually for life, but with parole available at the discretion of the judge (but set at a minimum of 20 years).

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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland Nutter Sentenced Today
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My sister told me, and she works in a jail.

Jazzy did too, didn't she? What's the deal, Jazzy?

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I believe it's until the death of the prisoner but at the time of sentencing the judge can set a minimum term which is when then can apply for parole. I can check with the lifer unit on Monday. We do have a lot of lifers, but due to our client group we have a lot of ISPP (indeterminate sentence for public protection) prisoners. They are more based on risk though.

Tldr; I'll ask on Monday. :p

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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland Nutter Sentenced Today
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Aye, parole usually comes up way before the 'life' period. Isn't the average 14 years, unless you get put on a tariff?

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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland Nutter Sentenced Today
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I thought in the UK they now give life with a minimum terms in many cases?

You have that couple who starved\beat that young boy to death who got life with a minimum 30 years.

Then that guy in Manchester who killed the police women got life with no chance of release.

I read that people who kill policemen and children (with a sexual motive) will get life and never get out.

That said there have been a few cases that have had the concept of life with no parole challenged by the Court of EU Inference, Jeremy Bamber and others won a review of their “life with no change of getting out” sentences


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland Nutter Sentenced Today
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asfish wrote:
I thought in the UK they now give life with a minimum terms in many cases?

I believe that's the tariff.

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