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 Post subject: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 16:38 
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With the Mafia Don disposed of, and the Serial Killet six feet under, things are looking up!

But oh no! There's another dead body!

It's Bobbyaro! He has been beheaded by a ninja sword!

Next to his body is his head, and an empty bottle of poison.

Bobbyaro was a Mafia Poisoner!

Huzzah!

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9 left alive. 5 votes to change that.

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
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So only the mafia role blocker left ?

It does not say that they can take a life so is it now just a case of getting rid of them for the town to win ?


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
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Depends on the Ninja's win condition. This is, however, excellent.

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 17:29 
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Excellent, indeed.

So, there's no need for an antidote any more. Annoyingly one of the scientists has been killed, as now would have been a useful time for them to pipe up and roleclaim, but with one of them dead there's no-one to substantiate any claims.

This does assume that either:

a) There was only one Mafia Poisoner (rules say "one or more of each")
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b) Any Mafia Poisoners left are useless without orders from the Don (attempting to establish this is what got Zeppo killed, it seems)

So I suppose the task is now to kill the Roleblocker, and to find out just what the fuck the Ninja is doing, and why.


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 17:29 
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Cras wrote:
Depends on the Ninja's win condition. This is, however, excellent.


They did not have an action on the first night - it would be good if they were a vigilante - but can't count on it.


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 21:55 
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Ok, so Bobby was gunning for DavPaz and DavPaz winds up dead. That's a bit of a no brainier then. But why make it obvious that you, the poisoner, want the victim, the poisonee, deceased. BY POISON!

Surely he'd know that the FOS would point at him the following day. Maybe he was then going to say it was all too obvious and the Mafia tried to pin the blame on him. Whatever his motives, I know this for certain: I know nothing. Generally speaking, that is.

I still think I'm onto something with the MaliA vote off. One of these must be Mafia: nickachu, Goddess Jasmine or Cras.

Oh hang on, let me look who bobby was voting for..,


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 21:57 
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That's weird. He didn't vote for MaliA either time but he did vote for Zeppo.

So now we know. Lots. Seriously, someone tell me what this means.


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 21:59 
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Maybe it's ninjachu!


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:34 
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Well, that's a pretty good result.

I'm still sticking with my [vote:Nickachu] theory.

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:56 
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Has everyone been sedated by the poisoner? Geesh.


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:21 
It wasn't me. I'm fossing craster as he seems like the sneaky type


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 13:35 
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So FOS ing but no votes - it's dangerous to just let things time out here in case there is another poisoner but if there isn't its possibly just a case of waiting for the ninja to choose the right person to follow - if not then we do still need a way to rid ourselves of the final mafia

However no one talking will mean no clues on who is good or bad


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 14:25 
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zaphod79 wrote:
So FOS ing but no votes - it's dangerous to just let things time out here in case there is another poisoner but if there isn't its possibly just a case of waiting for the ninja to choose the right person to follow - if not then we do still need a way to rid ourselves of the final mafia

However no one talking will mean no clues on who is good or bad


I voted

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 14:36 
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Well, I'm voting [vote: nickachu] too then. Maybe it'll force a role claim. Or something to talk about.

I might change it if the wind changes.


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 14:45 
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I'm going to throw a role claim in here. Not that I particularly need to, but it might narrow down options. And I think I'm safe doing it.

I'm the other bickering scientist. I don't know, but I think I'm the one that's got the drugs right - mainly because I've been dosing myself for the last two nights and I've had no side effects. So I can carry on protecting myself and hence safely roleclaim. Assuming the ninja is townie-friendly. Even if the roleblocker blocks me and stops me protecting myself, the poisoner(s) and the roleblocker can't target the same person.

That doesn't actually help any of us in any way, of course.

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 16:15 
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Here's my thoughts on what's going down:

Cras - why not believe him, aye? No counter-claims. No, um, nothing going on really. Must be who he says he is.
zaphod79 - He's a goodie.
Gazchap - Claims to be god and has killed Trooper & Grim... He thinks that the Mafia have no actions now (Day 4) and there's no need for Cras (Day 4)
Goddess Jasmine - FOS'ing TFF and Zeppo (day 3). Voted for MaliA (Day 1) who was a goodie.
Nickachu - Has FOS'ed Cras even though Cras is actually a goodie (day 4). He thinks TFF is the Ninja (day 3).
Malc - Says very little. Seems aggrieved by Nickachu (day 3). His argument is simply that Nick voted for Malia twice.
Joans - Didn't vote for Zeppo. She was FOS'ing DavPaz (Day 3) who was a goodie.
TheFireFaerie - I'm bored looking through everyones messages now. She was the last to vote for someone said Goddess Jasmine so she get's this colour... for the lulz.


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 16:19 
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I`m a goodie and if needed I have proof, but don`t get excited as I don`t have any special powers.

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 16:21 
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That green is barely readable. Argh, my eyes

So we've got a 1/7 chance of hitting a single Mafia left or 1/3 chance of hitting 2 Mafia left.

Can't we at least reach an agreement whereby we vote for someone, say, quiet? We'll look as though we're doing something and there's a decent chance we'll get someone bad.


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 16:22 
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Malc wrote:
I`m a goodie and if needed I have proof, but don`t get excited as I don`t have any special powers.

Malc


Proof - Yay! What's that then? Stop being so mysterious.


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 16:26 
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Oh, to add some more useless info, I was role blocked on night 2.

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 16:27 
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Saturnalian wrote:
Malc wrote:
I`m a goodie and if needed I have proof, but don`t get excited as I don`t have any special powers.

Malc


Proof - Yay! What's that then? Stop being so mysterious.


Look at all the townies that have died, and then look at This POST

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 17:05 
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Game on [vote:Nickachu].


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 19:22 
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Sat, I also voted for Zeppo. I don't think anyone could be blamed for voting for Mali really. I would happily go with tff or gazchap at this point I think, but I can't remember why gaz.

For what it's worth, I was sedated last night.

Malc, don't get what that post is supposed to prove?

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
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So gj is not the mafia or the ninja - blocks were sdg on night 1 / cras 2 / gj 3

No counter claim so cras as the scientist leaves 6 undetermined with at least 1 mafia and the ninja in there


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
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I'd agree with that. So what/who next?

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
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I didn't vote for Zeppo, who was the serial killer, but I couldn't have known that. If I was mafia, then I'd have known he wasn't mafia, and had the opportunity to finish him off.
I only fos'd Davpaz because I haven't figured out this women's intuition thing yet.
I agree that Craster and Zaphod are pretty much confirmed good guys, but remember that doesn't mean they know anything useful, we just shouldn't vote for them, not give any extra value to what they say.
I also have no idea what Malc's post is about.
Now if you'll excuse me, it's that time of the month.


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 20:29 
Ok im the ninja, but my win condition is town, we just need to out the baddies and we win.


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That's convenient.


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
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Very - but I doubt we will get a counterclaim - what can you do mr ninja man ?


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
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Ninjachu! Ok, I'll [vote: unvote] unless there's a counterclaim.

See? Talking about stuff is ace!


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 Post subject: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 20:48 
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Yes, very convenient. Care to give us a bit more insight? The rules say your night action and win are a secret (although I think we get what your night action is!). I'd hazard a guess there's more to your win condition than just town...

I'm with GJ that voting for MaliA was the obvious thing for everyone to do, so why my FOS? I didn't cast the final vote, the serial killer did.

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 20:54 
Follow people and then off them if I want to.


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
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Yeah, thinking about it, having a ninja randomly lopping heads off probably ain't the best thing to have around. UNLESS HE SWEARS TO DO OUR BIDDING! Mwah, HA, HAR.

So who you going to kill next Nik or do you promise not to kill anyone (depending on what people think is the best use of a ninja) (I'd love one around the house. I might buy unsliced bread for a change. Mmm, a nice thick crusty loaf)?

Can you kill Joan's for me? Ta.


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 Post subject: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 20:58 
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Yes not the greatest thing to have an "if I feel like it" assassin wondering around!

If your win condition is town, then it does make sense for us all to be able to help choose if / who you off... What do you reckon?

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Yes, swear fealty to me!

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 21:07 
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nickachu wrote:
Follow people and then off them if I want to.

Oh, well actually that is convenient then. Who did you follow and not off?


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 Post subject: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 21:15 
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Do you get told people's roles were when you follow them?

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Joans wrote:
nickachu wrote:
Follow people and then off them if I want to.

Oh, well actually that is convenient then. Who did you follow and not off?


Actually only night 2 didn't feature ninja justice, so there might not be that much useful info to come.


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 Post subject: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 21:15 
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(Apologies for idiot spelling / grammar / typo!)

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
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TheFireFaerie wrote:
Do you get told people's roles were when you follow them?

I would assume so, as he appears to have chosen to kill two mafia. And seemingly didn't attack anyone on night two, and let's face it, if you were a ninja, you'd go for it from the off.


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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 21:27 
No-one yet. I followed bobby and trooper. And craster, craster is the scientist.


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nickachu wrote:
No-one yet. I followed bobby and trooper. And craster, craster is the scientist.


Er... http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=769603#p769603


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 Post subject: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 21:32 
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Yeah, that doesn't seem very scientist friendly (or knowledgeable) to me.

So I think either you're not the ninja and the real ninja doesn't want to counter-claim or hasn't been on yet, or you are but you're not town friendly at all so were trying to get a known (to you) good guy lynched.

Major FOS.

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 Post subject: Poison Scum Day Four
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Also, you say no one, but if you followed Craster and he's still alive, and you really are the ninja, then that's not no one!

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
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Joans wrote:
nickachu wrote:
No-one yet. I followed bobby and trooper. And craster, craster is the scientist.


Er... http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=769603#p769603


That is interesting indeed.

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 21:42 
I just wanted to see if the mafia left would go in on him. Turns out no-one fancied it.


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Near the start of a day, when only one vote had been cast, you wanted to see if the one remaining mafia would pile in on you FOS-ing someone?

Having said, that, a lot of your other posts do seem to suggest you're in some way ninja-y.


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 Post subject: Poison Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 21:45 
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Why would you do that if you're pro-town?!

Why, because actually you're not the ninja?

Craster's "useless" information that he was blocked night 2 isn't all that useless, when you consider that's the only night no ninja hit happened...

I reckon Craster is the ninja.

Plus that Nickachu FOSd him even though he claims he already knew Cras was the scientist (despite now backtracking) and is blatantly talking rubbish about being the ninja just to save himself from a lynching.

I don't know if you two are in cahoots or anything, but I do know that nick is full of rubbish. Whether Craster is the scientist or ninja doesn't really matter as long as the ninja win condition is actually town. Which it might not be.

But for now [vote: nickachu]

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 Post subject: Re: Poison Scum Day Four
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Er, am I missing something? I thought we still had a Mafia roleblocker left who visited me last night so if the ninja role claims and says he is town won't the Mafia dude just keep blocking him?

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Yep. And another reason why I just don't buy it from Nickachu

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