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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 13:24 
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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 15:32 
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Has anyone else gotten a prize yet?



TFF got one. *twirls pigtails*


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And it's a good one! Potentially... Will very happily share details with you the morning after - although it should be fairly obvious anyway *smiles sweetly*

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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
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I'm making allowances for it being the weekend.

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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 16:02 
It's blatantly going to get passed to me when I'm sleeping isn't it.


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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 16:31 
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I've been thinking and decided to vote for the person who has most recently made me most suspicious.

So [vote:MaliA]. I changed my vote to bobby on day two based on Malias instance of his guilt and general tone of his posts. That turned out to be wrong so I don't trust him now.


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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 17:43 
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Christmas Scum day 3

VOTE UPDATE

malia: 2 (Malc74, sdg)
malc: 4 (nickachu, Curiosity, Trooper, zaphod79)
curiosity: 6 (Malc, MaliA, TheFireFaerie, kalmar, Saturnalian, KovacsC)

Not voted: 4 (slightly green, goddess jasmine, alarm, squirt)

With 16 players alive, 9 votes are required for a lynch, and 9 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 17:48 
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Would be nice to have some more discussion from the people being voted for, but it is the weekend I suppose.

I am suspicious of SDG's randomness with hunches, but I don't think sdg is bad myself. This is based entirely on a gut feeling since I have no information. I have the feeling that Malia is a evil one but yet again this is purely a hunch from reading his posts.

Hopefully things will be clearer tomorrow when people have had a chance to use their present abilitys :shrug:

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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 17:52 
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I have the sneaking suspicion it's going to cause splat gore death mayhem, especially if anyone receiving a gift is a baddie.

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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 17:56 
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I don't think my hunches are random, I have tried to explain my reasons for them and have stuck to my guns throughout, then when I started feeling MaliA was behaving suspiciously I mentioned and finally changed my vote since a number of people have said they think trooper is good or currently don't have reasons to believe he is bad. It's not like I'm naming every person at different times and saying I don't trust them. Also, Slightly Green, you go on to say you are suspicious of MaliA who is the person I'm currently voting for so surely that would make you have similar suspicions to me?! I don't understand people saying they are suspicious of me but in the same post also saying they think I am good?!


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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 18:21 
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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 18:33 
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I'll be honest and say I don't have a bloody clue!

People who I think are good are saying that they think that people that I think are bad are actually good and people that I think are good are actually bad... :D

So screw it, as I have no idea I figure the best thing is to get tomorrow here quicker and see what the presents bring.

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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 20:49 
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sdg wrote:
I don't think my hunches are random, I have tried to explain my reasons for them and have stuck to my guns throughout, then when I started feeling MaliA was behaving suspiciously I mentioned and finally changed my vote since a number of people have said they think trooper is good or currently don't have reasons to believe he is bad. It's not like I'm naming every person at different times and saying I don't trust them. Also, Slightly Green, you go on to say you are suspicious of MaliA who is the person I'm currently voting for so surely that would make you have similar suspicions to me?! I don't understand people saying they are suspicious of me but in the same post also saying they think I am good?!



Sorry sdg, didn't explain myself very well at all, have had a insanely busy few days and brain is shutting down. I know that your FoS of me was massively wrong so am not trusting your gut instinct, your reasoning for linking Nik and myself is tenuous at best, having said that I don't think you are a bad un trying to throw the town off, my gut feeling is that you are a good little un and are trying to help the town, but unfortunately are making random links where there are none.

I have no evidence myself for anyone, but am getting some bad vibes from malia, but tbh am struggling to justify why even to myself.

Since I do firmly believe that we as a town need to act (especially since we have no town kill role) I will play the sheep and vote with the majority again so [vote: curiosity]. Hopefully he is a goblin, but even if he isn't we will still hopefully gather some information for the town with all these night actions that will be poping off.

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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 20:50 
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Christmas Scum day 3

VOTE UPDATE

malia: 2 (Malc74, sdg)
malc: 3 (nickachu, Curiosity, zaphod79)
curiosity: 8 (Malc, MaliA, TheFireFaerie, kalmar, Saturnalian, Trooper, KovacsC, Slightly Green)

Not voted: 3 (goddess jasmine, alarm, squirt)

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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 21:22 
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Can someone outline the reasons that Curiosity is being voted for? I don't really know where it's come from, and I have to say that curiosity especially since being pushed so close to the edge hasn't acted in a way that makes me think he's a baddy!
Also sg, my connection between you and nickachu was a gut feeling on day one but I've been too scared to drop it since then because I'd kick myself if I was wrong! I still don't know how I feel about it now. It's vey frustrating.


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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 21:24 
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I guess I'm toast then.

Remember the voting patterns, people.

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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 21:32 
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The Curiosity vote was launched by MaliA for reasons that... well, I went back and read his post and I still can't work out what he was blethering about.

Bear in mind that the Bobbyaro vote was also started by MaliA and we all know how that ended up.

For me, Mali is by a long way the most suspicious person so far - I'm not changing my vote at this point.

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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 21:52 
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sdg wrote:
Can someone outline the reasons that Curiosity is being voted for? I don't really know where it's come from, and I have to say that curiosity especially since being pushed so close to the edge hasn't acted in a way that makes me think he's a baddy!

I'd say it's the same reason you're voting for MaliA - just a tone / turn of phrase thing. However in MaliA's case, I think he's just being MaliA.

I've been thinking about who I should vote for, and reading through the day, Curio again stands out as a bit naughty. Add to that his finger-pointing at random, and bandwaggoning Malc.

So, I did un-vote for him but see no harm in [vote: curiosity] again. If nothing else, he's the most likely to get voted, and for the first time I think we're voting for someone I agree is probably bad.


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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
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It didn't count your unvote before, so you've always been part of the Curio vote. Still one more vote needed.

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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 22:59 
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Sorry, Christmas really seems to have taken over.

I'm I reading this correctly, are we voting for curio because of a hunch? I was hoping we would have something a bit more concrete to go on by now. I don't like just voting for some one as a guess after the first day, but don't have a better suggestion.

Curio, do you have anything to say in your defence before the final nail is hammered in?

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 Post subject: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 23:05 
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Well, we don't have anything apart from hunches, do we. Even investigator knowledge has to be presented as a hunch... Life is tough when you're good ;)


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 Post subject: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 23:06 
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(ps apologies to MaliA, no slight intended above! :) )


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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
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kalmar wrote:
Well, we don't have anything apart from hunches, do we. Even investigator knowledge has to be presented as a hunch... Life is tough when you're good ;)

Ooh, that's a good point. I shall re-read. Ta.

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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
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Well, we'll have one Super Junior Investogator left when I'm dead, I suppose.

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 Post subject: Christmas Scum day 3
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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 0:03 
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Is that a curiosity role claim I spy :D


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 Post subject: Re: Christmas Scum day 3
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Curiosity wrote:
Well, we'll have one Super Junior Investogator left when I'm dead, I suppose.

:(

A role claim fueled by desperation perhaps?

We've got plenty of time, try and persuade me that you are a SJI.

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KovacsC wrote:
My vote will stand, unless I can be convinced to change it by the end of today.


I'm a Super Junior Investigator. MaliA is not.

We should put MaliA on the naughty list. He's screamed for lynches against good guys all the time.

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:D This is Curio remember, I call bullshit! My vote stands for now.


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I don't know what I did to get this reputation, but it really works against me when I'm a good guy!

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The problem as I see it, is that getting a vote up and running against malia seems unlikely at this point. We have a few options though.

Try and naughty list Malia, which might be difficult to get the numbers now.
If Malia turns out to be good, we are another good person down, Curio is more likely be bad but not 100%. All he knew was that malia wasn't a SJI. The SJI don't have any more info than the rest of us at this point remember, the only thing they know is who is in their gang. (assuming the rules work like I think they work)
If Malia turns out to be bad. Yay! Again, doesn't prove that Curio is a SJI, but does make it a more likely. It does make it almost certain that Curio is good though, unless it is a self sacrifice move...

Keep Curio on the naughty list.
If Curio turns out to be good, we are another good person down. Still doesn't make malia bad, for reasons already mentioned.
If Curio turns out to be bad. Yay! Almost certainly makes malia a good person, not 100% for clever self sacrifice reasons again, but 99% certain.

To me, that makes it roughly a 50/50 decision, and being as Curio is already so far ahead in the votes, might as well stay with that.


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Trooper, the voice of reason. :)

I think that is a fair summary, and one I agree with. We have to take a chance either way.

[Vote: curiosity]

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Poor, poor Curiosity. No matter how hard he tries, he's always unfairly tarred by the reputation for naughtiness he carries around with him. It's just such a shame.

No, wait, it clearly isn't a shame at all, because Curio is, fucking obviously, a filthy goblin.

Night actions to me by midday tomorrow please!

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