Be Excellent To Each Other

So, this totally passed me by, but it seems the rest of the world knows that Chris Moyles left Radio 1 last week.

While I know it's not cool to like him, I always did. I especially liked how he clearly loved the radio as a medium, and wasn't just another name from the TV making the switch.

Also, he was about as full of himself as I am, and I love that

I shall have to get hold of his final shows.

He's like Bender when he becomes human, only a total arsehole and not entertaining like Bender was.

Nah, he was a twat from the radio desperately trying to launch any kind of TV career.

He doesn't sound the same on TV as opposed to radio, for some reason (in my opinion).

Not quite sure why he never got a TV career sorted. Yes he loved radio, but he was definitely trying to crack TV.

Early on (before Mark and Lard) he was very good. Then it went to his head and he ended up surrounding himself with yes men who would laugh at anything. Comedy Dave is a real throwback to 80s Radio 1FM, and not in a good way. Also whining about only being paid half a million quid a year.

In summary of this jury, a good radio presenter, but something about him made him quite dislikable.

I thought he had the 10pm slot now? MrsA cried at his last show. I used to not like him, but now think he's good.

Christ knows, I only figured he'd left when I saw the TV advert with Nick Grimshaw. I had to look it up on Internet.

Loads of people liked him. Just not the sort of people who 'should' be listening to radio one. Old, past it duffers like us.

I did try and like him, but him and Sarah Cox did my nut in.

Hence I listen to radio 2 or podcasts now.

I'm still current. the average age of a radio one listener is surprising high. IIRC, it's about 30.

I have no strong views on Chris Moyles himself but his show was just tedious, unfunny babble. I can't believe it went on for so long.

The bits I heard I thought were quite amusing, although I prefer Radio 4. All the time. I can't do music first thing in the morning. Or lots of loud noise.

EDIT: A stupid thing to say given I'm going to the cottage.

Ugh. Couldn't stand his morning show, the afternoon show he had before was bearable-to-good. He was trying too hard in the morning and it showed.

I used to like him when he did the afternoon show but then, I was 15-16 so his humour was more appealing. I can't stand the breakfast show, it was too cliquey and awkward to just pick up if you only tuned in occasionally. And on a half hour drive, you'd be lucky if he stopped talking long enough to play two songs.

I liked his late night show when he was on capital fm.

Chris Moyles has the perfect face for radio, which is, I suspect, why he's never managed to break into television.

(Plus, he is an annoying, loud-mouthed, Chris Evans wannabee hectoring twat/clone, which probably hasn't helped either. That niche is already filled)

I like Chris Evans.

Is it because he has more cars than you, Cavey?

LoL.

I don't mind he has awesome cars - that counts very much in his favour. It's that he paints them all white, is what I don't like, the sacrilegious twatto.

his football commentary on England vs ukraine was good in the summer.

Does he really paint his cars white? Why on earth would he do that? You'd think that he'd leave them as is if he loved them that much.

White cars are cool.

I know, it sucks doesn't it?

I don't have a problem with white cars per se, but to *respray* a priceless Ferrari California (among many others) in white (AFAIK not an originally available colour), like it was some chavved up Vauxhall Nova, is nothing short of vandalism in my book!

Yes it's his car, his money etc., but there are so few of these beautiful cars left, not that there were many to start with - they are genuine works of automotive art to be revered and cherished IMO. (I have a 500 year old house that's bought and paid for, but it's not as though I can use an 'it's my money so feck off' approach on that, and build some chavvy extension, stone clad it and/or start knocking down walls etc. Of course, there are far fewer Ferrari Californias than Tudor houses out there as well, and the latter is orders of magnitude more valuable)

Comedy Dave: Irony.

Does it detracts it's beauty by it being a different colour? A woman can be sexy in different outfits (no Zardoz no!!).

Yes, I'm inclined to agree that white is the best colour to appreciate an objects form. Besides, I bet most vintage cars have been resprayed anyway so it's not like it's the original paintwork.

Chris Evans, if you're reading this, please give me some cars. Thanx.

You've obviously never seen Claire Balding.

It's an entirely subjective matter of course, but yes, I think it's clearly the case that certain cars look far better in some colours, as opposed to others. (Taking the argument to the extreme, few people would argue that that Jordan's pink Bentley looked good, as compared to a nice, in-keeping, classy British Racing Green or whatever).

But for me, the issue here is that a fully, professional respray is an invasive, damaging process; AFAIK the original, irreplaceable period paintwork etc. is sandblasted off or similar before the new (two pack) paint and primer systems etc. are applied, via an entirely different process to that originally used in '61 or whenever. (Plus, I don't know if he has done this, but I guess he may well have mucked about with the interior as well, possibly to colour key it?)

I can well understand anyone who thinks this argument is a bunch of arse ( ), but I must admit, it's how I feel about it. I don't even like to see classic Fords like RS1600s/RS2000s and the like buggered about with & 'modern' Sierra Cosworth engines (and more destructively, gearboxes/drivetrains) installed. Even sympathetic restorations are contentious for me; I'm a Concours kind of guy.

On a Ferrari GTO that cost £18 million? (That's how much Chris Evans paid for it, according to Google)
I seriously doubt it; I'd be surprised if such a car had even covered 10,000 miles from new. They're not exactly daily driver material and were inordinately expensive even when new; probably kept in a dehumidified garage.

I meant a woman you like. but what ever rocks your world dude!

You mean the 250 GTO, right? The original California's aren't that expensive.

*Pours a 'lil Gin and Juice on the sidewalk*

Yup I was getting confused there (it's my age ), but on the other hand I wouldn't say original Californias aren't expensive, here's one that sold for $10.9 million lol

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/19/1961 ... 0-894-900/

Mind you, it is FILTH. Just look at it; a work of pure genius. Imagine having one of those in '61... something tells me you'd have no problems getting laid.

Christ - that's a rather daft amount of money for one of them.

They are pretty, though.

Very pretty.

That would look nice in white.

You sir, are a cunt.

If I remember rightly, the reason they're all white is because the first thing in his garage was a white grand piano, and he wanted it all to match.

I can't say it bothers me - I fully intend to paint all mine Arancio Borealis orange (aka Lamborghini orange).

Well, each to his own. It's not exactly keeping me up at nights, but it does erk me somewhat.

Personally, I think these classic Ferraris should have Listed status, like fine old houses and suchlike.

That would irritate me (houses) (and, also, why we've crossed Saltaire off the list). I've bought it, so why can't I paint stuff lime green with pink zebra stripes? And have a 200 foot tall chimney. And things.

EDIT: Fuck it, I'll buy ALL of Saltaire, declare the UN ehritage stuff invalid and turn it into a huge lasertag game.

Agreed. Antique wooden fireplace that Shakespeare carved his first rhyming couplet into at the age of 6? Absolutely, slap a preservation order on it. But a sash window is just a really shit way to build a window. Keeping it just because it's old is daft.

The reason, of course, is that in the case of centuries old, interesting houses and other properties, the current incumbents are merely their custodians for future generations to enjoy them, in their time. They are, by definition, very much a finite, irreplaceable resource. (I've no idea if you're being earnest here, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. )

Something that is beautiful, that has stood for 500 or more years, deserves a bit of respect. You only need to look at ruined town centres up and down the land, with their (decaying) 60s and 70s concrete monstrosities, where eclectic, diverse, attractive and interesting buildings once stood in their stead, to understand that, surely?

Heh. I was just about to qualify it with "I'm happy for castles and stuff to be left alone and things, but houses? You're meant to live in them."

A sash window looks fantastic though, as compared to some shit uPVC "DGU". I'm an engineer, but even I will be the first to say that there are aesthetic/architectural considerations to be made. To think purely along (often supposed) functional lines is folly IMO. Don't forget, those aforementioned ugly, impractical, short-lived concrete jungles of the 60s, 70s and even early 80s were considered to be fantastic and state-of-the-art in their time as well - and "their time" was only a few years ago.

Houses - grand and not so grand - are often THE most interesting and irreplaceable of all buildings, in architectural terms.
I really don't see what you're driving at with the "you're supposed to live in them" argument either. Being a Listed property does not mean you can't do *anything*, it just means you have to tread carefully and seek due permission before doing stuff.

"Is that the council? We're not allowed to replace the windows?! But it's fucking freezing in here!"



What about future generations that want to enjoy 60s concrete monstrosities? WHAT OF THEM? I say that our great great grandchildren be allowed to endure Victoria Shopping Centre in Southend or the environs of Wembley Central. It'll make them appreciate sash windows frozen both outside and in.

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@ Metalangel

Heh. Well, it's a bit daft to imply that just because a building is conferred some protection, that you can't put windows in at all, or running water, flushing bogs, decent wiring or whatever. The reality is nothing like that of course.

I'm not saying that Local Planning Authorities aren't over-zealous and/or unduly restrictive at times as regards Listed properties, of course they are. From a homeowner perspective, having a Listed property is a pain in the arse; more should be done to make such houses more energy efficient IMO (such as being able to fit architecturally compatible double glazing, for instance). But just because such a system is imperfect, doesn't mean we can throw it out altogether and have an absolute free for all. Like I say, our various ruined town and village centres surely lay testament to this?

I agree completely. However, I was drinking some devil's advocaat in suggesting that just because the brutalist stuff built in the 60s and 70s doesn't please us now, we can't go levelling it all because it's not old enough for it to have become as precious as a 400 year old farmhouse.

I don't disagree, at all, it strikes me as an odd thing that one can own something but not alter it without someone who doesn't own its consent. But I'm not really up on the ins and outs of locla planning laws. It also doens't currently affect me in ways to need to know them, either. I'm more a broad brush man, others do the details.

My dad has a large tree in his back yard that requires approval from some tree protection council or something before he can have the tree surgeon trim it back. It being his tree on his property is irrelevant, they still send some guy in beige trousers with a clipboard around to scrutinize it.

A friend has several of those. He enjoys their protected status, as it annoys the neighbours plans for their sun patio. It's a complicated story.