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myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:03

My Avengers boxset arrived today. Deliberating which order to watch them in - provisionally as such:

Captain America
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Avengers Assemble

Any disagreements?

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

[quote=”nervous pete”]But Robocop genuinely is top notch genre fun and it's so on the ball with the sketched characterisations, the satire and the giddy enthusiasm that it's impossible not to love. And you're saying 'heavy-handed satire' like its not a valid thing. Quite a few literary classics are incredibly heavy handed on the satire - 'Diary of a Nobody' for one. Robocop should have been just a enjoyable piece of schlocok, but everybody involved on every level is so committed and bringing their A-game that something genuinely classic comes outs of it. I've seen some inferior Hitchcock films too that are no where near the quality of Robocop, in acting, pacing, plot or script.[/quote]

Whilst I am not particularly a big fan of Hitchcock, I think you’ve got slightly carried away in your enthusiasm for Robocop there. It’s a good film and all, but it’s really in the same vein, and calibre, as a lot of other 80s films.

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And my big, big beef against remakes is not that they damage the original (as Raymond Chandler replied when asked if he was upset by lousy film adaptations of his works, "Why should I be? Look on the shelf, they're still there.") but that they drain resources and money and crew talent away from promising but more risky projects. So in the end we get a lorry-load of crap safe tripe cynically banking on special effects, a strong-but-now-creaky concept and old fans grumblingly turning up to be ripped off again because science fiction audiences are inexplicably one of the most conservative narrow minded bunches of fools on the planet.

Really? It’s people making remakes of old films that’s the reason that Hollywood churns out safe crap? It’s not the remakes, it’s the adaptations of books/comics/telly programs and the endless bloody sequels, Pete. That said, I’m glad they made the Avengers films.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

I mean come on, you're talking about the guy who made Showgirls.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38669

True, Showgirls was a misstep, but I reckon if it was made in Dutch with a Dutch cast and set in Amsterdam rather that Vegas, it'd a be cult classic.

IMHO, natch.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:06

Isn't that one of the biggest selling Films on video of all time? Or is that an urban legend?

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38669

Grim... wrote:

Isn't that one of the biggest selling Films on video of all time? Or is that an urban legend?

Wouldn't surprise me. A lot of people watched Saved by the Bell.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

The Last Salmon Man wrote:

My Avengers boxset arrived today. Deliberating which order to watch them in - provisionally as such:

Captain America
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Avengers Assemble

Any disagreements?

I'd watch them in this order:

Captain America
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Thor
Avengers Assemble

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:30

You seem to have missed a film out.

Slightly Green · **Joined:** 26th Aug, 2010 **Posts:** 2069

The Last Salmon Man wrote:

My Avengers boxset arrived today. Deliberating which order to watch them in - provisionally as such:

Captain America
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Avengers Assemble

Any disagreements?

Get 6 TVs and DVDs set up and watch them all at the same time for the true epic marvel experience. Or the order you have looks pretty good, although I would be tempted to skip Iron Man 2 as it doesn't stand up well against the original imo.

TheVision · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:32

I agree about Iron Man 2.. it wasn't great.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:33

Slightly Green wrote:

The Last Salmon Man wrote:

My Avengers boxset arrived today. Deliberating which order to watch them in - provisionally as such:

Captain America
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Avengers Assemble

Any disagreements?

Get 6 TVs and DVDs set up and watch them all at the same time for the true epic marvel experience. Or the order you have looks pretty good, although I would be tempted to skip Iron Man 2 as it doesn't stand up well against the original imo.

I've actually already seen both Iron Mans (Men?), Hulk and AA - I don't seem to have a problem with IM2 as I thought it was only slightly poorer than the original.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:52

Saying that it would be hard to beat the original.

I think I have ACDC back in black as my ring tone.

TheVision · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:54

KovacsC wrote:

I think I have ACDC back in black as my ring tone.

That's a great tune! Much better than Back to Black....

KovacsC · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:56

TheVision wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

I think I have ACDC back to black as my ring tone.

I much prefer Back in Black.

I don't know what you mean. Edit your quote so I stop looking silly..

TheVision · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:10

How's that?

Zardoz · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:28

I watched 'Van Wilder - Party Liaison' this weekend.

Caused small amounts of chuckling after a few pints, mostly due to people eating dog jizz doughnuts.

Scores a 1 on the Craster scale.

I award it a C-.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22397

The Last Salmon Man wrote:

Slightly Green wrote:

The Last Salmon Man wrote:

My Avengers boxset arrived today. Deliberating which order to watch them in - provisionally as such:

Captain America
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Avengers Assemble

Any disagreements?

Get 6 TVs and DVDs set up and watch them all at the same time for the true epic marvel experience. Or the order you have looks pretty good, although I would be tempted to skip Iron Man 2 as it doesn't stand up well against the original imo.

I've actually already seen both Iron Mans (Men?), Hulk and AA - I don't seem to have a problem with IM2 as I thought it was only slightly poorer than the original.

Enjoy your censored Avengers film

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/09/17/ ... ensored-it

Major spoilers in that link by the way.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:14

I give precisely this much of a shit:

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Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

I don't care about the edit -- although it is curious. However, that link had tipped me off that the US BluRay has a Joss Whedon commentary track that is missing from the UK release. So I think I'll import that then.

markh · **Joined:** 13th Oct, 2008 **Posts:** 903

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

I don't care about the edit -- although it is curious. However, that link had tipped me off that the US BluRay has a Joss Whedon commentary track that is missing from the UK release. So I think I'll import that then.

Apparently the sainsburys edition has the commentary (this is getting as bad as pre-order DLC) and is £15 today.

TK-421 · **Joined:** 27th Feb, 2009 **Posts:** 244

markh wrote:

Apparently the sainsburys edition has the commentary (this is getting as bad as pre-order DLC) and is £15 today.

No it doesn't. It has a bonus disc that has a ninety minute documentary, which, by all accounts is mostly rubbish. I'm still waiting for my Sainsbury's and HMV orders to arrive.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:49

DavPaz wrote:

True, Showgirls was a misstep, but I reckon if it was made in Dutch with a Dutch cast and set in Amsterdam rather that Vegas, it'd a be cult classic.

Um, it is a cult classic. There are regular Showgirls showing in the states where people cavort in the aisles doing the stupid dance movements. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showgirls#Cult_status

markh · **Joined:** 13th Oct, 2008 **Posts:** 903

TK-421 wrote:

markh wrote:

Apparently the sainsburys edition has the commentary (this is getting as bad as pre-order DLC) and is £15 today.

No it doesn't. It has a bonus disc that has a ninety minute documentary, which, by all accounts is mostly rubbish. I'm still waiting for my Sainsbury's and HMV orders to arrive.

Ah, i received my HMV steelbook today - didn't really want the steelbook, but for 12.99 it wasn't too bad.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:58

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

I don't care about the edit -- although it is curious. However, that link had tipped me off that the US BluRay has a Joss Whedon commentary track that is missing from the UK release. So I think I'll import that then.

I never watch with commentary tracks (sometimes I watch the docos).

Cool story, but true.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Dimrill wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

True, Showgirls was a misstep, but I reckon if it was made in Dutch with a Dutch cast and set in Amsterdam rather that Vegas, it'd a be cult classic.

Um, it is a cult classic. There are regular Showgirls showing in the states where people cavort in the aisles doing the stupid dance movements. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showgirls#Cult_status

Well they're wrong, it's not a classic.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

The Last Salmon Man wrote:

I never watch with commentary tracks (sometimes I watch the docos).

Cool story, but true.

I very rarely do, but I suspect I'd make an exception for this one. Whedon is a very entertaining speaker.

TK-421 · **Joined:** 27th Feb, 2009 **Posts:** 244

markh wrote:

Ah, i received my HMV steelbook today - didn't really want the steelbook, but for 12.99 it wasn't too bad.

I had the HMV Steelbook and Sainsbury's exclusive delivered about fifteen minutes ago (to one cunt in particular, who'll no doubt read this, it may have been more than fifteen minutes, it may have been less but I really wasn't bothered about noting the time when my postman knocked). I wish I'd kept the Amazon.de order instead of cancelling it when I found out that release had been edited as I didn't realise the UK release was also edited until the day before yesterday. The German release was a Steelbook and included the Sainsbury's bonus disc, I would have saved myself £15. Oh well.

I also have the Phase One briefcase on order with Amazon.com but that's been delayed until next year as Disney are very silly.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

is that Ang Lee's Hulk there too? Didn't realise that was included.

TK-421 · **Joined:** 27th Feb, 2009 **Posts:** 244

LewieP wrote:

is that Ang Lee's Hulk there too? Didn't realise that was included.

It's not really part of the Phase One series, but I like it, so I include it. It works as a loose prequel to The Incredible Hulk, anyway.

Zio · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6093

Late to the party as ever, but a criticism I saw of the purported new Robocop was that it looks like a guy in a suit, whilst the original more nailed the idea of it being a robot with bits of a bloke welded in.

And Robocop absolutely is a classic, by the way. I'm not a massive Verhoeven fan, but he really was at the height of his powers with that movie.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Zio wrote:

Late to the party as ever, but a criticism I saw of the purported new Robocop was that it looks like a guy in a suit, whilst the original more nailed the idea of it being a robot with bits of a bloke welded in..

Based on what? The film's not finished, correct?

TK-421 · **Joined:** 27th Feb, 2009 **Posts:** 244

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Zio wrote:

Late to the party as ever, but a criticism I saw of the purported new Robocop was that it looks like a guy in a suit, whilst the original more nailed the idea of it being a robot with bits of a bloke welded in..

Based on what? The film's not finished, correct?

I only hope it stays that way.

Zio · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6093

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Zio wrote:

Late to the party as ever, but a criticism I saw of the purported new Robocop was that it looks like a guy in a suit, whilst the original more nailed the idea of it being a robot with bits of a bloke welded in..

Based on what? The film's not finished, correct?

Based on that and other leaked images. It might not be the finished article and I am only repeating another criticism of it I saw, so we'll see. I'm not exactly excited by the prospect of a Robocop remake though.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Zio wrote:

Based on that and other leaked images. It might not be the finished article and I am only repeating another criticism of it I saw, so we'll see.

Having looked at the leaked, allegedly-real concept art and the couple of leaked stills I'd agree it doesn't look great... but I think that's scant evidence to make a judgment on.

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I'm not exactly excited by the prospect of a Robocop remake though.

No, neither am I. It's in my "I'll get interested in this if/when I see some good reviews of it" mental bucket. So just like almost every other film ever, then. Where I seem to disagree with the hivemind is that it's not in my "I must take to the Internet to stop this sick filth" bucket. I'm not sure I even have that bucket.

TheVision · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 16:46

Here's a remake I enjoyed. Nightmare on Elm street.

That was good that was.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 16:46

Human Centipede 3? I'm pretty sure that doesn't have legs.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Where I seem to disagree with the hivemind is that it's not in my "I must take to the Internet to stop this sick filth" bucket. I'm not sure I even have that bucket.

I do. It usually revolves around opinions on when butter is appropriate.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2012 17:07

Like your Mums arsehole?

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10175

it's got to be a rubber suit or the parkour and martial arts won't be possible!

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

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throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

Slightly Green wrote:

The Last Salmon Man wrote:

My Avengers boxset arrived today. Deliberating which order to watch them in - provisionally as such:

Captain America
Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Thor
Avengers Assemble

Any disagreements?

Get 6 TVs and DVDs set up and watch them all at the same time for the true epic marvel experience. Or the order you have looks pretty good, although I would be tempted to skip Iron Man 2 as it doesn't stand up well against the original imo.

Inferior to IM1 or not, it's still miles better than Thor.

YOG · **Posted:** Tue Sep 18, 2012 17:23

Robocop poster.

What's this supposed to be? It looks like a corpse's-eye view of a car dashboard.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

Thigh-holster, I reckon.

Malabelm · **Posted:** Tue Sep 18, 2012 17:55

Looks like cover art for a new Forza game.

Slightly Green · **Joined:** 26th Aug, 2010 **Posts:** 2069

YOG wrote:

Robocop poster.

What's this supposed to be? It looks like a corpse's-eye view of a car dashboard.

It has been a while since I watched Robocop, but that poster is suggesting to me he is related to the Cylons.

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

Slightly Green wrote:

YOG wrote:

Robocop poster.
What's this supposed to be? It looks like a corpse's-eye view of a car dashboard.

It has been a while since I watched Robocop, but that poster is suggesting to me he is related to the Cylons.

Or KITT.

Slightly Green · **Joined:** 26th Aug, 2010 **Posts:** 2069

throughsilver wrote:

Slightly Green wrote:

YOG wrote:

Robocop poster.
What's this supposed to be? It looks like a corpse's-eye view of a car dashboard.

It has been a while since I watched Robocop, but that poster is suggesting to me he is related to the Cylons.

Or KITT.

ohh good point

myp · **Posted:** Tue Sep 18, 2012 19:43

Just seen a trailer for Looper. Could be good.

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