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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 15:56 
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and with revstu

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dar ... nly-memory

just backed it...

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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 16:07 
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Wait, some guy who has never written a book before, wants to get paid $30000 before writing a book?

Fucking hell, i'm getting in on this kickstarter lark!


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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 16:10 
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I'd be interested in this if he actually got a designer. Looks as ugly as fuck.

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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 16:14 
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Trooper wrote:
Wait, some guy who has never written a book before, wants to get paid $30000 before writing a book?

Gary Penn's writing the words. I think that bit of it will be just fine.


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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 16:16 
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Hang on "I have 9 years experience as a graphic designer"... lordy.

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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 16:21 
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CraigGrannell wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Wait, some guy who has never written a book before, wants to get paid $30000 before writing a book?

Gary Penn's writing the words. I think that bit of it will be just fine.


Still... $30000... For writing a book... Most people I know who have written a book have done it in their spare time. It's not difficult or costly, it's just time consuming.


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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
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$30000 for producing a book. That will be printing costs and pressing costs for the unnecessary vinyl EP.

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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
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So then, "Sensi Soccer Book"... shit, I bet that'll be right up there with War and Peace.


Fuck me.
Talk about fools and their money being easily parted.

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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 16:30 
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$30000 for producing a book. That will be printing costs and pressing costs for the unnecessary vinyl EP.


Ah yes. $30000 for the fluff, excellent. I'll just have the content instead please.


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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
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Do you think they'll be an Appendix covering haute cuisine for 10 year olds, such as KP Crisps and suchlike? :attitude:

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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
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Oof. I dunno about that. It's niche, sure, but the gap is there. $38 is a bit on the heavy side for me. If'n the price were £12-£15 I'd be more inclined to flang pennies at their faces for a copy. As is, I'll wait to see if it's published, then pick it up for pennies on Play Trade or something a few months later.

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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 17:17 
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I'll be severely disappointed if it isn't a Choose-your-own-adventure.

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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 17:48 
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I think the subject matter is a bit limited. If it was a book about Senible Software it'd interest me more. Presumably they're aiming for some kind of glossy big magazine edition with large pictures.

Large pictures of Sensi's green grass pitch and tiny characters in different colours with maybe a whole chapter on why they chose the shades of green.


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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
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Well that'll teach me to post before clicking on the link. I blame the misleading thread title. Not my fault. I'm not clicking one link etc.


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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 17:52 
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Captain Caveman wrote:
Talk about fools and their money being easily parted.

Yes. God forbid anyone write a book about a niche subject and get people excited about that. Man, Retro Gamer must be feeling pretty bloody stupid for covering things like this for quite a few years now.

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I think the subject matter is a bit limited. If it was a book about Senible Software it'd interest me more.

It is about Sensible Software, not Sensible Soccer. The thread's forum's not entirely accurate.

Quote:
Sensible Software 1986–1999 will tell the story of Sensible through interviews and anecdotes from those who were there – including Jon Hare and the Sensible team – and a feast of visuals celebrating the company's idiosyncratic, groundbreaking style.


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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
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CraigGrannell wrote:
Captain Caveman wrote:
Talk about fools and their money being easily parted.

Yes. God forbid anyone write a book about a niche subject and get people excited about that. Man, Retro Gamer must be feeling pretty bloody stupid for covering things like this for quite a few years now.


Er, RG is a magazine that costs £1.50 or whatever, and even one single issue covers multiple games. This is an entire book, costing more (vastly more if you consider the 'bonus AAA+++++++' ticket versions where you get to sit in a restaurant or whatever - let's hope :attitude: isn't tasked with setting the menu, else "restaurant" will be "newsagent" I fear), and it's only going to cover one game.

But anyway, if people want this kind of thing, who am I to say otherwise? I might laugh and point a bit, but hey, it's their money and it's a free country.

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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
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Ian Fairies wrote:
I think the subject matter is a bit limited. If it was a book about Senible Software it'd interest me more. Presumably they're aiming for some kind of glossy big magazine edition with large pictures.


sorry, after sensi i automatically typed soccer

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Dimrill wrote:
$30000 for producing a book. That will be printing costs and pressing costs for the unnecessary vinyl EP.


which you don't get for your $38 i just discovered:(

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 Post subject: Re: sensi soccer book
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romanista wrote:
Ian Fairies wrote:
I think the subject matter is a bit limited. If it was a book about Senible Software it'd interest me more. Presumably they're aiming for some kind of glossy big magazine edition with large pictures.


sorry, after sensi i automatically typed soccer


Ah, well that explains it a bit I suppose. Like others, I read the original thread title ;)

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 Post subject: Re: sensi software book
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 20:24 
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For $38, I'd expect a hard backed full colour illustratated book.

It seems to me that they want people to fund their writing of a book. A pure vanity project. What if $30k isn't enough?

There is no indication of typesetting, printing, copy editing, other publishing stuff and, most crucially, projected sales. Printing and binding are the major costs here, and that varies according to print runs. And how many pages it is.

it's a neat idea for a book, pitched at a limited audience, but with no real talk of how the money is going to work for me. Because of that, I'm out.

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Have they actually written it yet? Surely that doesn't cost anything other than time?


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 Post subject: Re: sensi software book
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 21:10 
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Why not write it first, release it as pdf, and then fund a kickstarter to make fancy hardbacks?

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This ugly book has been funded.

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Dimrill wrote:
This ugly book has been funded.

538 :belm: 's though it was worth $38.

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MaliA wrote:
For $38, I'd expect a hard backed full colour illustratated book.

It seems to me that they want people to fund their writing of a book. A pure vanity project. What if $30k isn't enough?

There is no indication of typesetting, printing, copy editing, other publishing stuff and, most crucially, projected sales. Printing and binding are the major costs here, and that varies according to print runs. And how many pages it is.

it's a neat idea for a book, pitched at a limited audience, but with no real talk of how the money is going to work for me. Because of that, I'm out.


And Kern bought it me for Christmas. It's really interesting to read, and the pictures are good, but it seriously needed a decent copy editor. Pretty much every single plate reference is wrong, to begin with. Apart from that, I love it.

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in the end i did buy the ep buy the way, after i had bought a record player again.. really nice..

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