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GazChap · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2012 14:52

Whichever one they spend most of their time looking at, one would assume

metalangel · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2012 14:54

Grim... wrote:

Do you think in complete sentences? Or in concepts?

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As a deaf person with hearing aids, I can tell you I'm not thinking in my own voice, just in a 'neutral' voice... Man, that would be annoying as hell if you're male and got a very high-pitched voice, both when talking and when thinking... :lol:
It's hard to describe, just as it is hard to describe to a blind person what color the vanilla ice cream has...

I philosophized with a buddy of mine before about how people that don't know words think (humanity started out as that at some point). But keep in mind that when you're thinking, you're using the words to represent a concept (which can describe an object or an action). If a deaf&mute person doesn't think with a voice, I'm pretty sure they're not imagining text, I'd think they'd think in concepts or something like that.

I'm trying to find the answer I've had to that question from someone who was born profoundly deaf and doesn't know what speech sounds like (unlike my friend above who speaks but cannot hear)

EDIT: Here we go:

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As far as inner voice goes, when you read to yourself you will read faster.
However, I think you are confusing thought with speech. You don't have to know how to talk to be able to think. Again, I'm not an expert, but I'm guessing the ability to read to yourself has more to do with your brain than vocal activity.

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I not fast reader, no inner voice either. Stone deaf, from birth. Aaverage speed read I think.

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I see images, too, when I read. But sometimes it is accompanied by this inner voice. It doesn't even have to be an understandable voice. It usually is just mumbling to me. But if you were trained to read Hooked on Phonics style, then you will probably have a "reading voice." Probably only people who hear a little bit would have this.

Sometimes my mind will put in sounds when I'm lipreading someone on TV and I don't hear them. I think it's kind of the same phenomenon. If I read Closed Captions, same thing.

I see pictures and images with this.

Kinda weird, I know. lol

Curiosity · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2012 14:55

Dead and with Hearing AIDS?

Some people get all the bad luck

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2012 15:02

[quote="metalangel"Do you think in complete sentences?[/quote]
I do. I pretty much constantly talking to myself in my head.

metalangel · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2012 15:06

Grim... wrote:

metalangel wrote:

Do you think in complete sentences?

I do. I pretty much constantly talking to myself in my head.

I think everyone is different in that respect. I only tend to think in complete sentences when I am carefully working something out, such as writing this sentence, or mulling over a problem.

Mrs Metal and I agreed that we don't read in any particular voice either - if you were to ask us what a particular character in a book would sound like we could tell you, but we don't read their dialogue in their voice. For this reason I find books where they go out of their way to convey the character's accent in text very jarring, with the exception of the Geordie characters in Viz.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2012 15:09

Also Scotch. http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/2004 ... rissie.jpg

metalangel · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2012 15:13

Dimrill wrote:

Also Scotch. http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/2004 ... rissie.jpg

Yes. I was thinking more along the lines of the manservant in Scarlet Traces.

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2012 15:16

metalangel wrote:

Mrs Metal and I agreed that we don't read in any particular voice either - if you were to ask us what a particular character in a book would sound like we could tell you, but we don't read their dialogue in their voice.

Ha, I do! Me and you are like brain opposites

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2012 15:23

I think I'm your brian buddy, Grim....

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2012 15:36

metalangel wrote:

Grim... wrote:

metalangel wrote:

Do you think in complete sentences?

I do. I pretty much constantly talking to myself in my head.

I think everyone is different in that respect. I only tend to think in complete sentences when I am carefully working something out, such as writing this sentence, or mulling over a problem.

Mrs Metal and I agreed that we don't read in any particular voice either - if you were to ask us what a particular character in a book would sound like we could tell you, but we don't read their dialogue in their voice. For this reason I find books where they go out of their way to convey the character's accent in text very jarring, with the exception of the Geordie characters in Viz.

when talking or reading in foreignese I have to think in that language. To the extent that i find it bastard hard to translate anything. I imagine its something similar to that.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2012 15:40

When I stole Firefox I had to think in Russian.

YOG · **Posted:** Sun Jul 15, 2012 20:54

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26097

Grim... wrote:

[quote="metalangel"Do you think in complete sentences?

I do. I pretty much constantly talking to myself in my head.[/quote]
You pretty much talking to yourself in your head in bad grammar.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 0:25

Aw wet koalas are so cute.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:04

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:23

Yeah, that's been altered. There are enough copies of the original.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:31

Of course it has. Why would a herbivore have such pointy dog teeth?

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:32

Dimrill wrote:

Of course it has. Why would a herbivore have such pointy dog teeth?

Because someone put a dog jaw on it, obviously.

YOG · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:34

NervousPete · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:23

*Touches own beard self-conciously, glances down at retro-shirt with bit lip*

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38660

Pfft... I heard that guy's beard 6 month ago. Too mainstream for me.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:39

I preferred his beard's four-track demos, in all honesty.

NervousPete · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:45

Nah, his beards much better live. You've gotta here it live.

*Rubs ear against the beard. Nods head knowledgably.*

Mmm.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:56

Mimi wrote:

Grim... wrote:

[quote="metalangel"Do you think in complete sentences?

I do. I pretty much constantly talking to myself in my head.
You pretty much talking to yourself in your head in bad grammar.

Yeah, but I always code right

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:21

NervousPete wrote:

Nah, his beards much better live. You've gotta here it live.

*Rubs ear against the beard. Nods head knowledgably.*

Mmm.

As my t-shirt says,

"I listen to bands that don't even exist yet"

Goddess Jasmine · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 14:04

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KovacsC · **Posted:** Mon Jul 16, 2012 15:50

Wullie wrote:

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

YOG wrote:

I love that!

nickachu · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:36

Wullie wrote:

I don't get it

KovacsC · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:45

50 shades of Grey us an erotic novel. Vibrators take batteries.

nickachu · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:55

Ok I get it now. I never even heard of the book.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38660

You may know it as 50 Hurny Gurny

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12337

DavPaz wrote:

You may know it as 50 Hurny Gurny

By Hurdy Gurferrsson.

nickachu · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:01

DavPaz wrote:

You may know it as 50 Hurny Gurny

That's very offensive to swedes.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

Vegetables don't get offended.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38660

nickachu wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

You may know it as 50 Hurny Gurny

That's very offensive to swedes.

I apologise to all Swedish members of the forum.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:33

Apology accepted.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38660

Zardoz wrote:

Apology accepted.

No, you're a turnip.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 17:05

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 17:13

It doesn't really need the second frame.

WTB · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 14497

I miss our red rump parakeet.

Malabelm · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 17:20

WTB wrote:

I miss our red rump parakeet.

You miss everything, you big girl.

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

nickachu wrote:

Ok I get it now. I never even heard of the book.

I envy you.

WTB · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 14497

Malabelm wrote:

WTB wrote:

I miss our red rump parakeet.

You miss everything, you big girl.

YOG · **Posted:** Tue Jul 17, 2012 22:57

Sir Taxalot · **Joined:** 5th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 4840

Dimrill wrote:

Aw wet koalas are so cute.

Aiiieeee! A drop bear!

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