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I was expecting it to be a bit poo, seeing as it got a slating on here/WoS for the gameplay being too simplistic and paper-thin.

I was completely wrong, though - my goodness it's fun! Fun in the same way that Crackdown is. Running from rooftop to rooftop and climbing up to the viewpoints is just exhilarating; legging it from the guards can be terrifying.

I'm only a bit of the way in so far, so I might get bored if it's quite repetitive; but right now it's muchos funnos! I'd heartily recommend anyone to get it at the price point it's at right now.

Sounds like it would be a good game to hire from Blockies for a week.

I thought it was excellent and fully intended to finish it, but got distracted.

BUY JADE'S GAME!

You are entitled to your opinion, but perhaps you shouldn't be*, if you're going to make statements like that. Crackdown is about being a superhuman badass, in a vertigo-inducing sandbox world. Assassin's Creed is a 2D stealth game that operates on 2 or 3 different height levels, with ledges and poles to aid moving between them. Not once was I even slightly 'eek!' about legging it about the place, despite being a massively vertiginous type.

I hope you enjoyed the first city, and the things you did in it, because you'll be doing exactly the same thing for the rest of the game - just with slightly more difficult/tedious guard configurations to get past en-route. And how about those guards, eh? Have you managed to actually lose a fight, yet? I think I did once, when trying some of the 'Kill stupid numbers of guards in X minutes' achievements - the existence of which I think proves how unsatisfying and easy the combat is.

Personally, I found Assassin's Creed to be quite spectacularly dull rubbish, not doing anything that Crackdown or Prince of Persia did anywhere near as well as either of them, or have anything new or special of its own (the similarities between it and any Ocarina of Time or Twilight Princess are most amusing to me).

But, YMMV IMHO LOL TNT BBQ.

* I jest.

I really liked the combat in Assassin's Creed, with all the counters and stuff. And jumping on people to kill them in one hit.

"Hey this game is nothing like as rubbish as people have said it's absolutely lovely and look I can kill people with grace and climb up walls with ease and jump into haystacks and everything, this will NEVER get boring"

2 days later.

"OOh look a bee, I'll turn this shit off and watch it fly into the window"

All 2 of them?

I paid a tenner for Ass Creed though. At that price, if it's great for a few hours then gets dull, I will not be unhappy.

AWESOME'S CREED!

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My main problem with Assassin's Creed is the horribly long intro to the game. PGB factor of the scale.

Far better game, for far cheaper, for example-FTFY. But y'know, hoorah that you're enjoying your Ass Cred, all the same. Someone has to.

Actually - I was supposedly mad for buying a poor game for £3, to play it through for definite gain (Eragon, for achievements). And yet, you're all paying more than three times as much for a game that's scarcely any better, without the cold comfort of Achievements to fall back on. Nutters.

Anyway, Assasin's Creed. Bonus points if you manage to make it to the end without being trapped 'inside' one of the building fronts, or falling through the geometry into the blue pale void to your death. I had this happen five or six times on my way to completely 3/4 of the bloody thing. So, it's not just rubbish, it's bugged. But if you like it, good for you, and you're welcome to marry my daughter.

Thanks for the concern. If I start hating it I'll be sure to let you know that you were right.

I'm sure that anyone who can't afford to buy many games, and wants to know that it'll be satisfying right to the end, and not just for a few hours, will be glad to be warned that it's flawed, bugged, and the same gameplay throughout, before parting with their hard-earned money. Speaking as I was to 'the room' in regards to it.

If you have any entirely positive opinions on the subject of this thread, why not write in and tell us?

I agree, and it was the existence of these opinions that meant I was never going to pay anything like full price for it. At less than the price of a chart DVD though I can be more forgiving, particularly as I guess I'd get a fiver back for it at trade-in or second hand down the road. That makes the Total Cost of Ownership less than a cheapy DVD from Asda's reduced rack.

I thought the combat was pretty fun, if basic, I cant think of another game with as good sword fighting. I wasnt bored during the game at all either and had none of the flaws or glitches CUS speaks of.

I put a lot of this can come down to the fact that some idiots pay lots for games.

As the price of a game passes £20 the amount I'm certain I'll love it has to rise exponentially,

I bought Assassin's Creed for £20, new. And I thoroughly enjoyed it. At £40 or whatever, I would have been a bit disappointed. It's not a game for playing for 30 hours, it's a game to play for 8 - 10. And was great for those hours. If you are the kind of person who wants to get 1000 gamerpoints and do everything, then it's not the game for you.

It's a game that gives you multiple ways to progress, so you can only do the things you want to do on the way. I picked and choose the mini-missions needed to get hit, to be the ones I wanted to do 'that minute' - if I tried to do them all it would have been a chore fest.

It had an entertaining and morally ambigious plot. It looked beautiful, and handled well. My only complaint with it was that it should have controlled more like Prince of Persia.

It's a great game. Flawed, but great.

How often do you get to run around a historical middle eastern world where the arabs aren't terrorists blowing up the good guys?

Fuck The Haters.

I liked the sword fighting, and didn't have any glitches either.

I'm willing to swap Kong for Ass Crud or give someone £4 inc p&p.

It is my profound hope that one day you will recognize the hilarious irony in this statement, and slightly trip, losing 10p to a crack in the pavement, 'sir'.

Be Amiga Action To Each Other, more like.

Also, if you see achievements as a 'definite gain' then yeah, you'll probably hate AC.

And if achievements are making people thing buying something to get easy points or whatever. Then I'ld probably describe them as the cancer killing gaming.

But each to their own I suppose.

How much Ass Crud would you like?

*Holds mirror up to CUS's own statement, that cool 2 mirrors facing each other effect occurs*

You know I added that at the end for it's comedic nature. I don't think anyones said 'Fuck the Haters' without Ironic intent since, maybe 2001?

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Sir, so far in this thread you have described me as an 'idiot', a 'hater' (to be 'fucked') and 'the cancer killing gaming'. This is because I have said 'Be warned, I in my experience found this game to be bugged, glitchy, and rather unsatisfying. If you are of the type who wants vaue for money, then you may be disappointed. But if not, then more power to you'.

You on the other hand, have been entirely unpleasant, because I don't like a game you like. Stop that.

I do not like Assassin's Creed. If someone were to check my gamercard (if they were that bored), they'd find that I have almost no games 1000/1000, except for a couple of cheaply-bought pieces of shit like Eragon and Lost.

As I have repeatedly said - if you like it, then good for you - but if you are considering buying it, and money is tight, then you may wish to reconsider. I apologize for attempting to bring a counterpoint to this thread, please continue with the hyperbole and superlatives, unbound.

Some praise: I thought the horse bits were quite good, but I liked them better when they were in Ocarina of Time.

Ha ha ha.

That, along with a nice pic, would make a lovely 'mini-comedic-update' to the main site.

Excellent work!

Have I? No I haven't I was talking in generalities. Fuck the Haters was at all the unfair stick it got at launch. I was not picking you out at all. And I only mentioned that I think that if games sell because they offer easy gamerpoints, then it will lead to more games like avatr being made.

I aimed none of those barbs at you and I welcomed your thought out and legitamate views of the game. I mearly offered the accurate counter point that if you don't care about 100%'ing the game, and get it at a price where 8 hours entertainment is worth it then you'll like it. I was presenting your opposite viewpoint, not trying to prove you wrong.

Okay. Oh - seriously, warning: I've heard the PC version is *REALLY* bugged to fuck. Like, super-duperly so. I would ahem, 'try before you buy', any PC fans out there.

Err, actually the whole point of my thread was to act as a counterpoint to all the hating that went on when this first game out.

Prince of Persia...

What do you mean that isn't historical. Balls to you.

An admirable aim, sir. I don't recall any hating though*, which seems to be the source of the hiccup here. Metacritic gives it an average rating of 81/100.

I think that, beyond the controversy / brow-furrowing over Jade's Assasin's Jade's Creed Jade TITS etc. it was still given mostly positive reviews.

Inexplicably.

*well other than my own, on this site, as 'the' review of Assassin's Creed.

Sands of Time, best game ever for lyfe yo!

I was referring to the hate given to it on here and WoS (I thought my first post was explicit enough), not the reviews.

Fair enough, though. You're entitled to your opinion and you have played it for longer than I have so far. I've just been enjoying it immensely over the last few days and wanted to share the love, just in case anyone else avoided it for the same reasons I did.

Does anyone else actually own Prince of Persia: Classic on XBLA? Just me then.

I do too!

I'd forgotten all about it. I think I got frustrated with it and deleted it. Maybe I should download it again some time.

Incidentally, not only did I really enjoy this game from start to finish, (the much criticised plot), entertained the occasionally watching SkeptoGirl into breaking free from the Wii and playing a 360 game.

Which lead to her playing CoD4 with the bezzies and slightly improving the performance of the Skeptobot unit when it plays online..

It was the game that sold the 360 to my GF. And I find that quite impressive.

Me also, I'm a big fan of the series. I even have the 3D one for the Dreamcast. It might be why I was disappointed so much by Assassin's Creed, as everything I had seen before release suggested Prince Of Persia Does Crackdown. In fact, it turned out to be... well, I've already said.

Have you seen the trailer for the new PoP game? It looks... interesting. Could be good. Sort of... Sands of Time does Ico, on a cell-shaded ragga tip.


Apologies; I must somehow have missed where you specifically mentioned its forum reception, which I see now. I had wrongly assumed you were regarding its media reception.

i likde the demo never got roundt o buying it, I might hope they bring the price down soon. Its been a while since microsfot have ballsed something over and give us a free game so it might be sooner.

No, but I was going to buy it last night when I thought it might be 400pts. It wasn't so I didn't.

Classic, just makes me wish for A 2D PoP that controls like Sands of Time.

And also isn't it basically the unlockable in PoP:SoT anyway?

'Tis ok, CUS, I forgive you. Shock horror, I haven't even played any of the 3D PoP games, as for some reason I thought they'd be a bit shit. Are they actually quite good then?

Have you not played any of the 'modern' 3D ones then? OO! SIR! Run - do not walk - to get yourself a copy of Sands of Time, pronto. I'm warmly aghast that you've not played it. So shocked am I, in fact, I wonder if you just mean the 'previous' 3D ones, from the first attempt at a revival. There was just the one, on Dreamcast and PC, and it's terrible. Well, it was when I played it on PC - I confess I've not tried the DC version yet.

It's far, far worse than that.

I'm actually looking forward to trying Assassin's Crud, so I can see first-hand the ludicrous sci-fi interludes, pretending to pray and the incredibly obsessive fans that each of your targets has and carries around a piece of paper with all their details on.

Of course, if I buy it second hand the best I'll get off Jade is a soapy tit wank.

I have a 360 and a Gamecube as the systems it's likely to be on. Is the Xbox 180 version backwards-compatible?

Buy Sands of Time
Buy Sands of Time
Buy Sands of Time
Buy Sands of Time
It is wonderful!

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Excitingly, it is! You jammy, non-previously-playing-Sands of Time git. Also: remember to add the Xbox 1 games to the 'games list' site, CUS.

Yes, I meant the console being backwards-compatible for the game. Ho hum.

I'll see if I can dig out a copy somewhere. Is 'Warrior Within' any good, also? I forget the name of the third one.