The Avengers

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Apr 10, 2012 14:59

I am excited like a girl about this. There may have been squeeing.

It had better be fucking good.

Here, have some trailers that you will have already seen:

flis · **Joined:** 26th May, 2008 **Posts:** 3333

I will definitely be paying a grotesque amount of money to watch this at the cinema.

I remember being super excited when Tony Stark was in the end of The Incredible Hulk, at the thought of an Avengers movie.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Grim... wrote:

I am excited like a girl about this. There may have been squeeing.

times a hojillion. Whedon, man! Whedon!

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

BTW it's out on 26th April.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue Apr 10, 2012 15:15

Yeah, I can't wait.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16636

Whedon, wow cool! I always wanted my superhero films to be just that bit more twee.

I'm sure he's done a great job really.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Yep, I'm totally on board for this and might even go to the cinema for it (something I haven't done for years). Marvel recently published a series of short comics called "Fury's Big Week" which actually tied all the recent films together in a single narrative as a setup for the upcoming film and, shockingly, it was relatively well done and coherent. Hopefully that sort of usually shitty tie-in being done well is a good omen for the quality of the film itself.

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5393

It's definitely an opening weekend film for me. I've stopped watching trailers and reading anything about it for fear of being spoiled.

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:43

Dr Zoidberg wrote:

It's definitely an opening weekend film for me. I've stopped watching trailers and reading anything about it for fear of being spoiled.

Hulk smashes things.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:12

Grim... wrote:

Dr Zoidberg wrote:

It's definitely an opening weekend film for me. I've stopped watching trailers and reading anything about it for fear of being spoiled.

Hulk smashes things.

FFS! Tags, man, tags!

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:13

Curiosity wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Dr Zoidberg wrote:

It's definitely an opening weekend film for me. I've stopped watching trailers and reading anything about it for fear of being spoiled.

Hulk smashes things.

FFS! Tags, man, tags!

Oops!
Hulk smashes things. #theavengers

Rodafowa · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:51

Shame it's not being shown at the iMax because after seeing the surprisingly entertaining Thor this weekend I was totally up for a Nerd-O-Day-Out.

TK-421 · **Joined:** 27th Feb, 2009 **Posts:** 244

I can't wait for this. I'm well fucking excited! I've watched no trailers or anything, except the post-trailer bit at the end of Capt. (during which, I may or may not have shed a tear or two).

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:11

TK-421 wrote:

I've watched no trailers or anything, except the post-trailer bit at the end of Capt. (during which, I may or may not have shed a tear or two).

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8423&p=648639

markh · **Joined:** 13th Oct, 2008 **Posts:** 903

There's lego Avengers too! Why didn't they have those when i was a kid?

KovacsC · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 13:40

Where are these Lego?

markh · **Joined:** 13th Oct, 2008 **Posts:** 903

http://shop.lego.com/en-GB/Super-Heroes-ByTheme

Pundabaya · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5016

One thing I've never gotten about The Avengers: What use is Captain America?

You've got Hulk, Iron Man and Thor. Two practically unstoppable brawlers, and one unstoppable flying brick who's also a one man artillery piece and a brilliant engineer to boot. Oh and Bruce Banner is one of the top scientists in the Marvel Universe.

Cap is someone who's pretty strong, compared to a normal human, and has a nifty shield. If I was Nick Fury, I'd sack him and get Deadpool or Squirrel Girl or someone.

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 14:24

Pundabaya wrote:

Cap is someone who's pretty strong, compared to a normal human, and has a nifty shield. If I was Nick Fury, I'd sack him and get Deadpool or Squirrel Girl or someone.

He's leadership material, isn't he?

TK-421 · **Joined:** 27th Feb, 2009 **Posts:** 244

Grim... wrote:

TK-421 wrote:

I've watched no trailers or anything, except the post-trailer bit at the end of Capt. (during which, I may or may not have shed a tear or two).

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8423&p=648639

That link is no good to me. Inappropriate sobbing? Pah! It's The Avengers on screen - Together. It's deserving of tears of joy.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Grim... wrote:

He's leadership material, isn't he?

Aye. Although he is much stronger and more resilient than your baseline human, he's sold more as being a brilliant leader and strategist who comes with the bonus of being pretty good at kicking baddies in the face. A lot of his interactions with other characters involve him inspiring them to be their best and he's good at rehabilitating previously bad characters (most recently the Red Hulk and Ant-Man for example).

KovacsC · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 15:21

Red Hulk?? How many colours are there... I kinda remember Green and Grey!

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Pundabaya wrote:

One thing I've never gotten about The Avengers: What use is Captain America?

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

KovacsC wrote:

Red Hulk?? How many colours are there... I kinda remember Green and Grey!

The Hulk is normally green, but was apparently grey for a while in a story line that sounds really fucking stupid even by comic standards. The Red Hulk is a completely separate character that was relatively recently created. And then of course there's She-Hulk and Red She-Hulk plus Skaar and Hiro-Kala (the sons of the green Hulk).

KovacsC · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 15:39

Just googled Red Hulk :facepalm:

I never got on with hulk as it was basically hulk smash.....

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22391

Not having read any of the Avengers comics, I always found it weird that Hulk was in them? He always struck me as someone who didn't play well with others...

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

KovacsC wrote:

Just googled Red Hulk :facepalm:

I never got on with hulk as it was basically hulk smash.....

The Red Hulk sounds terrible but the current work that's being done with the character is actually pretty good; as with anything it's all about the execution and a good writer can make even the shittest sounding premise into something interesting.

In the comics the green Hulk hasn't really been (entirely!) about mindless smashing for years either and for as long as I can remember he's had most of Banner's intelligence intact even when hulked out so he's no longer the monosyllabic cretin people tend to think of. Although that is still the case in the movie version obviously.

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 15:46

Trooper wrote:

Not having read any of the Avengers comics, I always found it weird that Hulk was in them? He always struck me as someone who didn't play well with others...

He doesn't. At least, not in the cartoon which is on Disney XD.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Trooper wrote:

Not having read any of the Avengers comics, I always found it weird that Hulk was in them? He always struck me as someone who didn't play well with others...

In the comics he's not been in the Avengers for years, largely I think because, as you imply, they're supposed to be a professional team and he was just a huge fucking liability for so long. Even now that he's intelligent he's too pissed off at them all to work with them. To be fair they have done shit like lure him into a ship and then fire him off into deep space over the years so fair play to him. How they work him into the film version of the team will be interesting to see.

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Apr 11, 2012 16:10

Bamba wrote:

Trooper wrote:

Not having read any of the Avengers comics, I always found it weird that Hulk was in them? He always struck me as someone who didn't play well with others...

In the comics he's not been in the Avengers for years, largely I think because, as you imply, they're supposed to be a professional team and he was just a huge fucking liability for so long. Even now that he's intelligent he's too pissed off at them all to work with them. To be fair they have done shit like lure him into a ship and then fire him off into deep space over the years so fair play to him. How they work him into the film version of the team will be interesting to see.

"Hulk smash!"

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

Looking forward to Ant Man!

Slightly Green · **Joined:** 26th Aug, 2010 **Posts:** 2069

Just got back from seeing this! Squeeeeeeeee, that film makes me happy.

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The Hulk is just pure Awesome, i didn't realise awesome was a colour and it is green. In Grand central with Thor and then with Loki at the top of Stark Tower "Puny God".

Joss Whedon has done a great job with this.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22391

I put this in the Movie thread, but it seems better placed in here

So.. The Avengers then...

First 15 minutes or so is pretty good, then it bogs down for the rest of the first third. Slow, unfocused and a bit messy, just seems thrown together with no real pacing or direction. Also, the main actual plot is hokum bullshit as expected.
Then the rest of the film starts... The last 2/3rds are incredible. Writing is excellent, the dialogue isn't just excellent for a superhero film, or just excellent for an action film, it is excellent full stop. Very witty, fast and honest. Laugh out loud funny in a fair number of places.
Action wise each scene is basically the coolest scene in the film, every single action set piece could have easily been put in a trailer, the action itself is completely un-formulaic and unpredictable, and also strangely believable. The non-super superheros of the team never feel out of place.

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The end fight scene between Hulk and Loki is utterly brilliant

All in all, easily the best of the recent set of superhero films. I'd need to watch it again to see how it stands up to a second viewing, but a solid 9.5/10 from me after the first time round.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22391

Other people need to go see this as soon as possible, so we can all talk about all the cool bits.

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Which is basically everything to do with the Hulk

Slightly Green · **Joined:** 26th Aug, 2010 **Posts:** 2069

I feel dirty saying this but Troops correct....

All go watch this so we can talk about how cool this film is

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

We're off to see it tonight so I'll post some thoughts whenever I get a chance after that.

On a related note, when I went to book it there were two showings at the same time: one apparently in 'digital' and the other using 'd-box' whatever the hell that is. I found the D-BOX website but it's not really very illuminating, anyone know what exactly this is all about (aside from doubling the ticket price of course).

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Bamba wrote:

On a related note, when I went to book it there were two showings at the same time: one apparently in 'digital' and the other using 'd-box' whatever the hell that is. I found the D-BOX website but it's not really very illuminating, anyone know what exactly this is all about (aside from doubling the ticket price of course).

Motion controlled seats, apparently.

According to my Twitter, occasional Beexer Mentski saw this in The Screening Rooms. I was immediately jealous that that isn't within a reasonable drive from my house.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:41

Bamba wrote:

We're off to see it tonight so I'll post some thoughts whenever I get a chance after that.

On a related note, when I went to book it there were two showings at the same time: one apparently in 'digital' and the other using 'd-box' whatever the hell that is. I found the D-BOX website but it's not really very illuminating, anyone know what exactly this is all about (aside from doubling the ticket price of course).

They have them in the cinema in bradford I think.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16636

I'm not going to actually pay just to feel as though some little arsewipe sat behind keeps on kicking my seat.

DBSnappa · **Posted:** Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:55

Going to see this tonight :-)

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

I have seen this.

First act is merely very good. Second and third acts are perfection. Best comic movie of all time, I think (need a rewatch to confirm).

Fave bits:

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Loki/Hulk (duh).
Hulk randomly smashing Thor sideways out of the frame (duh again, this had the audience at my screening rolling in the aisles).
Thor/Hulk fight' particularly Hulk getting smacked in the face with Mjolnir.
"Target acquired... Firing at target... Target angry TARGET ANGRY1"
"Hulk... SMASH!"
Cap America, Hawkeye, and Black Widow remaining completely relevant and interesting during the final showdown through deft writing, even as the higher powered characters were flying all over the place.
The Avengers-logo "A" being the only bit left on Stark tower.
The entire mid-film set piece being far better written and more exciting than most film's finales.
The finale being even bigger.

Can't believe Whedon restrained himself to just one character death!

Was it me or did the aliens (which I think are the Marvel Ultimate version of the Skrull) look a lot like the Locust from Gears of War, especially the big flying things?

Two ace casting notes for IMdb:

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The Hulk is voiced by none other than Lou Ferringo! And the leader of the aliens, who talks to Thanos in the mid-credits sting, is Alexis "Wesley Wyndham-Price" Denisof!

Malc · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:14

Just scrolled down to the bottom of this thread without reading any of the last few posts to say I'm watching this a week today with the kids at the cinema! We're all looking forward to it!

Can't wait!

Malc

Plissken · **Posted:** Sat Apr 28, 2012 18:13

This made me laugh.

http://textfail.com/2012/04/28/the-aven ... ebook-ftw/

asfish · **Joined:** 5th Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 3353

My wife’s one and only fault is that she generaly hates films and TV like this.

There are a few exceptions, the Walking Dead is (bizarrely) her favourite TV show and she will watch Supernatural.

So I won’t get to see this until it’s on DVD, as I'm not off to the cinima on my own.

Oddly enough she has made a new friend who loves all things sci-fi, she watched this last night and said it was brilliant

Slightly Green · **Joined:** 26th Aug, 2010 **Posts:** 2069

asfish wrote:

as I'm not off to the cinima on my own.

Mate, go see this in the cinema, its fricking awesome! Or tell your wife your taking her to see Salmon Fishing in the Yemen and 'accidentally' get tickets for Avengers :DD

Malabelm · **Posted:** Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:41

I don’t like superhero films. They’re predictably formulaic, and watching the same story but with a different protagonist every time gets me fed up pretty quickly.

I really enjoyed this. I thought putting so many of them together in one film would just be a nerd’s wank-fest, but every character was relevant, and the story did well showing how utterly useless each character is alone, yet how obscenely chaotic they are if they try to work together. This is definitely a superhero film done right, finally.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22391

A question for the comic book nerds

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The Hulk transforming at will in the final fight scene and saying his secret was that he was "always angry" Wouldn't that mean he had to be the Hulk all the time then? How does that work? Is that the same as the comics these days?

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

asfish wrote:

So I won’t get to see this until it’s on DVD, as I'm not off to the cinima on my own.

You don't have any friends to go with?

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Trooper wrote:

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The Hulk transforming at will in the final fight scene and saying his secret was that he was "always angry" Wouldn't that mean he had to be the Hulk all the time then? How does that work? Is that the same as the comics these days?

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I thought that was a bit of a hole personally because it implies Banner has complete to-the-second control of the transformation which flies in the face of the earlier scene on the helicarrier when he was fighting not to hulk out. Certainly it doesn't tie into anything in the comics and I suspect both that transformation and the line that went with it were just put in because they looked/sounded cool. Unless I'm missing some wider significance there anyone?

As for the comics, in recent years there hasn't been as much animosity between Banner and the Hulk because the Hulk is no longer a monosyllabic idiot so he doesn't rampage around fucking Banner's life up for him as soon as his back is turned. There's more of a co-operation between the two, with them transforming as required to take advantage of each characters strengths (The Hulk's literal strength and Banner's genius level intellect) in order to achieve their shared goals. Actually, right at the very moment in the comics the two have been separated completely by Dr Doom at the Hulk's behest and Banner's been driven pretty much insane by it all in a really poor story by the otherwise excellent Jason Aaron; but I don't expect that to last much longer and they'll be back to sharing a body pretty soon no doubt.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

I just took it to mean that

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No matter how in control Banner looks, the Hulk is always barely contained. One tiny slip or one intentional nudge and out he comes.

I think you guys are over thinking it!

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