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Arcade game - possibly Sega - "Like Top Gun". What is it?


After Burner surely?


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Is it Melty Blood: Actress Again? Or maybe StarHorse? Or maybe the classic Bingo Party Pirates?

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You've been told what? It ended!

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MrsA wants me to go to Ripon with her at the weekend to look at a bridesmaid's dress. Obviously, this isn't filling me with the boundless joy she thought it would. Is there anything I should especially look out for, except for the cathedral? Shopping for dresses is really fucking dull, at the best of times.

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MrsA wants me to go to Ripon with her at the weekend to look at a bridesmaid's dress. Obviously, this isn't filling me with the boundless joy she thought it would. Is there anything I should especially look out for, except for the cathedral? Shopping for dresses is really fucking dull, at the best of times.

A pub. There are many.

or Lightwater Valley. But that might be closed for the winter.


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MrsA wants me to go to Ripon with her at the weekend to look at a bridesmaid's dress. Obviously, this isn't filling me with the boundless joy she thought it would. Is there anything I should especially look out for, except for the cathedral?

Footpads, pick-pockets, ne'er-do-wells, villeins, muggers, chuggers, buggers, white slavers ... just the usual, really.


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Shopping for dresses is really fucking dull, at the best of times.

Why not try some on yourself? You know you want to.

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Shopping for dresses is really fucking dull, at the best of times.

Why not try some on yourself? You know you want to.


It simply won't do to show up the bride.

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MaliA wrote:
MrsA wants me to go to Ripon with her at the weekend to look at a bridesmaid's dress. Obviously, this isn't filling me with the boundless joy she thought it would. Is there anything I should especially look out for, except for the cathedral? Shopping for dresses is really fucking dull, at the best of times.

Congratulations Malia!


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throughsilver wrote:
Trooper wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beach_Spikers

Surprisingly good game, that.


It was, I spent a good few hours perfecting my smash.


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That is the NYPD, this is the Greater Manchester Police in action.

Looking at that I'd hazard a guess that he was exceeding the speed limit.

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That is the NYPD, this is the Greater Manchester Police in action.

To be fair, that was probably an accident, in America the cops crash into you on purpose with 5 or 6 cars at once.


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Was in a meeting yesterday with a chap that look like MaliA...

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Was in a meeting yesterday with a chap that look like MaliA...


Could have been Evil MaliA.

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My spam's giving me dating advice now. 8)

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On the first date all other rules apply: No sex talks, Shaved face etc.
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Surprisingly good game, that.

I have that on the GC, but haven't actually played it.

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Could have been Evil MaliA.

I thought you were the evil twin?


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WPS (Wi-fi Protected Setup) is a protocol used by many wireless routers to make it easy to use wireless printers and other networked peripherals. Recently researchers revealed that the protocol was unsafe. It turns out that the PIN password space is only 11,000, and most routers don't object to repeated failed attempts to log in. As a result, it is possible to brute-force try every PIN in two-four hours. An open source program called Reaver has now been released which will do this. The Department of Homeland Security recommends disabling WPS on all routers, but not all routers permit it to be disabled.

11,000? 8)


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Letter in the post this morning, from the letting agency managing the flat downstairs. Regarding a serious water leak from my bathroom down into theirs.
WTF? The guy downstairs apparently called the letting agent, who went round to see the leak, who then wrote and posted a letter to me. At no point did anyone think to actually walk up a flight of stairs and knock on my door and tell me about it! Seriously, what the fuck?

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WPS (Wi-fi Protected Setup) is a protocol used by many wireless routers to make it easy to use wireless printers and other networked peripherals. Recently researchers revealed that the protocol was unsafe. It turns out that the PIN password space is only 11,000, and most routers don't object to repeated failed attempts to log in. As a result, it is possible to brute-force try every PIN in two-four hours. An open source program called Reaver has now been released which will do this. The Department of Homeland Security recommends disabling WPS on all routers, but not all routers permit it to be disabled.

11,000? 8)


That's quite clever. I assume they meant to say 10000, if it's a 4-digit PIN.

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WPS (Wi-fi Protected Setup) is a protocol used by many wireless routers to make it easy to use wireless printers and other networked peripherals. Recently researchers revealed that the protocol was unsafe. It turns out that the PIN password space is only 11,000, and most routers don't object to repeated failed attempts to log in. As a result, it is possible to brute-force try every PIN in two-four hours. An open source program called Reaver has now been released which will do this. The Department of Homeland Security recommends disabling WPS on all routers, but not all routers permit it to be disabled.

11,000? 8)


That's quite clever. I assume they meant to say 10000, if it's a 4-digit PIN.


Also, so what. Oh no! The bad man can put his printer on my network! :D


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11,000? 8)


That's quite clever. I assume they meant to say 10000, if it's a 4-digit PIN.


Also, so what. Oh no! The bad man can put his printer on my network! :D


I remember reading about this earlier in the week and having access to the router could allow more than just adding a printer :-)

Found it :

https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/wifi ... ins-122711

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The US-CERT is warning about a vulnerability in the WiFi Protected Setup standard that reduces the number of attempts it would take an attacker to brute-force the PIN for a wireless router's setup process. The flaw results in too much information about the PIN being returned to an attacker and makes the PIN quite weak, affecting the security of millions of WiFi routers and access points.

WPS is a method for setting up a new wireless router for a home network and it includes a way for users to set up the network via an external or internal registrar. In this method, the standard requires a PIN to be used during the setup phase. The PIN often is printed somewhere on the wireless router or access point. The vulnerability discovered in WPS makes that PIN highly susceptible to brute force attempts.

"When the PIN authentication fails the access point will send an EAP-NACK message back to the client. The EAP-NACK messages are sent in a way that an attacker is able to determine if the first half of the PIN is correct. Also, the last digit of the PIN is known because it is a checksum for the PIN. This design greatly reduces the number of attempts needed to brute force the PIN. The number of attempts goes from 108 to 104 + 103 which is 11,000 attempts in total," the US-CERT advisory says.

"It has been reported that some wireless routers do not implement any kind of lock out policy for brute force attempts. This greatly reduces the time required to perform a successful brute force attack. It has also been reported that some wireless routers resulted in a denial-of-service condition because of the brute force attempt and required a reboot."

Security researcher Stefan Viehbock discovered the vulnerability and reported it to US-CERT.The problem affects a number of vendors' products, including D-Link, Netgear, Linksys and Buffalo. He said via email that he has received essentially no response from vendors about the problem.

"I noticed a few really bad design decisions which enable an efficient brute force attack, thus effectively breaking the security of pretty much all WPS-enabled Wi-Fi routers. As all of the of the more recent router models come with WPS enabled by default, this affects millions of devices worldwide," Viehbock said in a blog post.

Viehbock has written a paper on the WPS vulnerability and his research and also developed a Python tool to brute-force the PINs. He hasn't released the tool yet, but says he may do so once the code is in better shape. None of the affected vendors have released fixes or workarounds for the bug, but Viehbock says in his paper that disabling WPS looks to be the main practical mitigation, Implementing long lock-out times for multiple authentication failures would help as well.

"One authentication attempt usually took between 0.5 and 3 seconds to complete. It was observed that the calculation of the Diffie-Hellman Shared Key (needs to be done before generating M3) on the AP took a big part of the authentication time. This can be speeded up by choosing a very small DH Secret Number, thus generating a very small DH Public Key and making Shared Key calculation on the AP’s side easier.," he says in the paper.


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