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Been mulling.

Hmm. I think Bobbyaro's flash of suspicion is worthy. Hence:

[Unvote: Craster]

[Vote:gospvg]

EDITED BY CURIOSITY TO FIX SPELLING ERROR.

Super FOS of The Vision, as Joans says.



There is only 1 way someone would say that there are fewer than 4 borg, and that is by being a borg and knowing they have failed to recruit, but see what Joans said. The man speaks sense.

However, question for Craster, are you voting today? Bear in mind you have been accused of trying to get a time out yesterday.

Yep. We've got 22 hours until the end of day though, and I'm not about to let a bandwagon happen. Bear in mind there are probably more of both bad guy sets than there are good guys here. Tipping the vote will be all too easy.

I don't trust Malc, but I'm suspicious that we've let the bad guys pit the townies against each other, while the likes of Joans, Pete, you, or TheVision sit and laugh.

I think you and Malc are Romulans. Possibly Joans, too. But given that there's next to nothing that can stop the borg recruiting, most everyone else is probably borg. This makes me nervous.

[vote: unvote]

Ok we need to suss out who the Queen is and we have until 9pm

gospvg: 4 (Malc, NervousPete, Bobbyaro, Joans)

So which one of you is the queenie?

Bobbyaro
Malc
Joans
NervousPete

So now there are 4 borg? I thought there was only 2 left?

Well it ain't me. I can't even operate a Mac properly.

gospvg is talking inconsistent rubbish, he really is a borg. Out of interest, I am not a Romulan (or a borg). I can also see why you would think I was on the same side as Malc, for I have argued for him occasionally, however, I am not knowingly on the same side, he may well be though, my communicator only appears to work during the day; I am a civilian. Unfortunately (potentially), Malc's opponents appear to be inconsistent and it is rather easy to tear their arguments apart.

Out of the 4 people that aren't voting for Gos (Craster, Slightly Green, The Vision and of course Gos himself), it would seem safe to assume one of the following:
Gos is borg
None of the other 3 are borg.

If Gos isn't borg, and any of the other 3 are, surely they'd cast the final vote and get him killed. So either they're all doubting good guys, (and even a romulan would happily kill him unless he's another romulan), or Gos is borg and they don't want to finish him off.

So now if I vote for gos and he's a good guy, I'm killing a townie, and if he's a bad guy, I'm a teammate sacrificing him? Way to keep me sat on the sidelines

Which is what he and you wanted! You scummy scumsters.

Joans it is then

[vote: Joans]

I think it's safe to assume that Gos isn't the borg queen due to his late entry into the game (unless there wasn't going to be a borg in the game).
Craster isn't the queen, nor is he a romulan.
I don't think Malc is romulan, because of the whole Trooper situation.

Why isn't Craster the Queen?

Because he isn't.

But is Malc the queen?

[vote: unvote]

No.

Malc

We aren't going to survive this are we, the borg are controlling the voting, and making for a time out.

Sorry to lump you in with me again, but yes, this is what I think there plan is.

Malc

God Damn it Malc, stop agreeing with me!

No idea, I'm just trying to narrow down the numbers as best I can.

Their! FFS!

Malc

If there are 4 borg there's no need for any of them to vote for their own, so we'll never lynch a borg.

Question to Craster, SG & The Vision. Why are none of you putting in the last vote for Gos? Do you all firmly believe that he's not a borg, or are you all unwilling to lynch one of your own?

Sorry but I'm a Simple Civilian

I'm suspicious of Malc & Joans especially the way you are controlling and demanding people vote for a particular person.

Are the 4 who voted for the Borg Queen & Borg?

VOTE UPDATE

malc: 2 (TheVision, Slightly Green)
gospvg: 4 (Malc, NervousPete, Bobbyaro, Joans)

Not voted: 2 (craster, gospvg)

With 8 players alive, 5 votes are required for a lynch, and 6 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/

Oh look GOSPVG has made the waters muddy again!

Malc

I'm sticking with my initial gut instinct from day 4

[vote: Malc]

I think Joans is in on the act also.

I'm not demanding anything. I'm only focusing on you because of your post where you completely dismissed the borg as any kind of threat and the fact that you've been hanging on 4 votes now, but nobody seems willing to put the boot in. If you really aren't borg, then that means that all the borg are already voting for you. As I know I'm not borg, that means there's only 3 (or fewer) left in the game, which is a good thing, but seems unlikely.

I'll admit that my judgement in these things is terrible, but the most logical explanation at the moment is that you are borg, and therefore everyone not voting for you is borg as well. So if the remaining Romulan(s?) would like a hint for tonight, I think it's a toss up between slightly green and the vision for the queen. Presumably, this is all completely incorrect.

We need to make sure ideally we lych the Borq Queen
Everyone knows I am not the Borg Queen.

We don't know that, but it's a reasonable assumption.
Ideally we need the queen, but it's better to lynch a borg, than not a borg.

If there really are 4 borg left, we're better off lynching nobody and hoping the Romulans hit the queen tonight.

Unless you are...

For a long time I wondered if there were no borg (was no borg? No, I think were no borg is right) in the game, and I thought, wow, that would be brilliant, introduce a character that everyone would be scared of, but then not actually have that character in the game, everyone would become increasingly paranoid about the number borg there must be, especially as there were no kills.

That's exactly the sort of thing I imagine curio would do, but then he had to find a role for you, maybe he did choose borg queen?

I don't know to be honest...

But Joans' logic seems good, and you might not be the queen, but the next best thing is a drone, and if you're a drone then I'm all for you going, and then hopefully our pointed ear friends, can bag another borg tonight.

Malc

This isn't looking good for the good guys is it? I'm sticking with my vote for Malc for now but I reckon today is going to go to a time out which ultimately, could seal it for the Borg.

Just asking, but you're quite sure Gos isn't borg?

WTF? Really, you would have been better not posting than this, you have admitted you are on gospvg's side. If he doesn't go, we know he is borg, if he goes and he is borg, you are dead.
Gospvg effectively admitted to being a borg earlier today with his "only 2 borg" comment, but irrelevant of that, we have spent the past few hours debating about whether the people voting or not oar borg or not, but to deliberately sit there and say, "I am going to vote for malc because it will lead to time out"! Really?
Have we got enough time to vote for TheVision folks? He is borg as well as gospvg, and chances are gospvg isn't queen, so therefore more chance TV is the queen.

[vote:TheVision]

We can try, but I fear we don't have the numbers (or he's a good guy)
[vote:TheVision]

VOTE UPDATE

thevision: 2 (Bobbyaro, Joans)
gospvg: 2 (Malc, NervousPete)
malc: 3 (TheVision, Slightly Green, gospvg)

Not voted: 1 (craster)

With 8 players alive, 5 votes are required for a lynch, and 6 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/

When did I say I was borg?
I'm not Borg.

My 2 Borg comments was my best guess for what we have to play with, I don;t think there is 4 Borg players much less than that with Dav Paz dying.

I'm happy to go with The Vision vote if it gets a lynch but my gut is saying stick with Malc.
So I'm staying with Malc for now.

Explain this.
We start with 1 borg.
They recruit every night so far to give them 5.
Davpaz dies, they have 4.
For them to have any less, they must have failed to recruit on one or more occasions, why do you assume that has happened as a "best guess for what we have to play with"?

thevision: 2 (Bobbyaro, Joans)
gospvg: 2 (Malc, NervousPete)
malc: 3 (TheVision, Slightly Green, gospvg)

Not voted: 1 (craster)

With 8 players alive, 5 votes are required for a lynch, and 6 nolynch votes are required to not lynch anybody.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/counter/

I will read the previous days but I am sure some players have said they were role-blocked overnight.

Yes, Davpaz, a dead Borg (not the queen) and Trooper a dead civillian (not the queen).

Ok fair point, 4 is more of a better guess.
So if I'm one who are the other 3?

If there is 4 then they can also control the voting in the hope that one will swing over to make it 5.

I don't see anyone pushing for the 5th vote but you & Malc on me.

Well, as I said before you were on 4 votes before for a long time with Craster, SG & The Vision not voting for you. So either they were all too scared to cast the last vote because they thought you might be a good guy, or you're all borg.
I notice nobody is piling onto vote for the Vision. I wonder what would happen if I put a 4th vote on Malc...

Yes but that is just the same when I say that 4 borg were voting for me & putting pressure on a 5th non-borg to cast the final vote.

Go on then.

Malc is my current number one suspect.
But any lynch is better than a time-out so if needed I will switch my vote just not yet.