Be Excellent To Each Other

Well I never... it seems like only a few minutes ago it was daytime, but it must be a trick of the light.

Speaking of light, the daily meeting in the ready Room is a couple of people light.

Where's zaphod79?

He's in Ten Forward, but he's as dead as a doornail. His body has been split from crotch to throat by what looks to be a Klingon battle implement. The red of his blood barely stains his uniform.

Zaphod79 was an Ensign wearing a Red Shirt.

Next to him is a note reading,

"Ooops, sorry. From Lt. Worf"

Also, slumped across the bar is ElephantBanjoGnome. He is also dead, from a phaser blast to the face. Ouch. He was just enjoying a drink.

ElephantBanjoGnome was a Civilian

[playerlist]
Mr Russell
DavPaz
myp it
Trooper
flis
nickachu
KovacsC
Bobbyaro
Slightly Green
Malc
Joans
TheVision
NervousPete
Craster
gospvg
[/playerlist]

With 15 players remaining, 8 votes are needed to use the airlock as a Romulan waste disposal chute.

Day ends at 9pm Friday.

Can a mod please add all the dead people from tonight and the day phase to the Dead Thread? Thanks.

This wouldn't have happened if Picard was still alive.

Gah! *erk*

I err, what happened? Does the Zaphod's death mean that they found a bad guy? Why is it a klingon weapon? I don't understand the note either!

What is it with you and not reading the handbook!?

Worf can kill anyone at night but if he targets 2 innocent people, he has to kill himself.

Clearly Starfleet have no idea who the romulans are. This is bad.

Oh crumbs.

I stepped away for a bit. Why on earth did we kill Q? If necessary I'd have offered myself up as a token civilian kill, and then he would have been on our side. I normally don't agree with keeping an SK alive, but in this instance it was definitely to our benefit!

Because he roleclaimed too late and by the time I read it, the die had been cast.

He probably didn't want to stick around without Jean Luc to play with

There were two people who voted after Q roleclaimed. Myp and EBG. EBG was acting very weird, so I would have suggested going for him after yesterday, but it turned out he was just plain weird and not a bad guy. That only leaves myp.

Any explaining going to come out, or should I just vote now Myp?

I believe this means it's officially time to panic, somebody fetch Walter Koenig, fast! He's a telepath!

No, wait, wrong franchise.

Although Q would have double-crossed, he probably should have been kept alive. After all he'd have no fun with the Borg with their, "Robin Hood period costume drama is irrelevant," if they took over. This is getting surprisingly tense.

I would also like to thank Mr Dom for making me laugh, a lot, at his response to Nickachu in the previous day.

Right, DavPaz reasons for killong Q don't sit with me. And I would also like to see what Myp It has to say for himself.

Also, also, yeah I am shit at reading the rules.

Also, also, also I just wanted 3 posts in a row.

just to show you talk...

not a good result with the day and night actions.

it might have been nice to talk about Q before we killed him.

Being as I am a scientist, i'm going to do some science and report back with the findings, don't kill anyone till I get back please!

[vote:trooper]

So, going on the premise that the bad guys know we were planning to airlock the quiet ones, we can assume that they have talked this episode. However, they will most likely still want to fly under the radar somewhat, so I doubt they would be top of the conversation poll. That is one option.

Option 2, if they are very clever, they will have tasked themselves with both a talker and a quiet one in the group, to make sure they have all bases covered.

Lets look at the numbers, ordered by number of posts and dead people alignement noted



So going with option 1 as a premise, the axis of evil probably starts at Malc and goes down to Joans, all with just enough posts to stay off the radar as being quiet, but not enough to be talked about.

Going with option 2 as a premise, add to that axis of evil a very quiet (flis or Nervouspete) and a very talkative (Davpaz or Kovacsc (or me, but I know i'm good, so i'm discounting myself!))

The list of potential bad guys is :

Malc
Craster
Slightly Green
Joans
NervousPete
Flis

Lets look at how they voted.

Malc Day 1: Kalmar, Day 2: Mr Dom
Craster Day 1: Kalmar, Day 2: no vote
Slightly Green, Day 1: Kalmar Day 2: Mr Dom
Joans Day 1: HoE, Day 2: HoE
NervousPete, Day 1 Zaphod79 Day 2 HoE
Flis, Day 1: DavPaz Day 2: HoE

Doesn't really tell us anything, apart from there seeming to be two separate camps there, Malc, Craster and SG voting pretty much together, and Joans, NP and flis voting pretty much together.

I'd bet on one or more of Malc, Craster and SG being Romulan.

So [vote:malc]

Funny man

Opps, missed adding on the talkative ones, back in a sec

Nice workings out Trooper.. I agree because you said that Nervous Pete could be a bad guy but if you want to start the ball rolling...

[vote:Malc]

Added in missing people.

Calling me talkative is like saying The Breen have cold hands: stating the obvious

I just didn't agree with striking a deal with Q out of principle. Unless one of the officers outs himself and says 'kill such and such, nod nod wink wink' there's no real certifiable way of him hitting a bad guy during the night phase. At least with him out of the way we know he 100% can't kill any more civilians or crew. Also, it was the first time I'd changed my vote during a day phase all game.

I am now going to go back to my original train of thought from the past couple of days. [vote:Mr Russell]

Indeed, I don't think you being talkative is a good indicator of anything, as you never know when to shut up

But in this case, it could be an excellent ruse to hide under...

I know [vote:unvote]

Eek! But I want to be talkative, I just can't because I'm Mr Public Serving guy at work and went out for drinks with a lass last night. I'm a bit concerned that Trooper's tome not only implicates me using worryingly persuasive reasoning, but attempts to lay down a path for future voting - sinisterly ruling him and his potential cohorts out. But I'm just saying that out of paranoia, probably, as I'm spooked. BUT STILL...

Hmm...

Balls, I've got no real idea. Bobbyaro's ignorance might be suspiciously feigned, maybe him.

MAYBE EVERYONE.

(Runs off to join Kevin McCarthy on the 'freeway'.)

Bugger me, Time seems to have warped and we are onto a new day very quickly, I wasn't able to check the logs properly until after Q was outted and chose to leave, but i don't think i would have changed my vote as he would have been a liability as a officer would have had to out him/herself to guide this killer and there is no guaranty that he would have even done as asked.

The killing of poor Zaphod by LT Worf is a disturbing outcome, not only are we one more team member down but Lt Worf has used up his 'free life' (so to say), EBJ being killed by the Romulans hmmm, sad to see another civilian go So that leaves the Borg who also probably have 3 members now (unless they were roleblocked one or both of the nights). With 8 votes needed they arn't a massive threat yet but will be soon, so today we really need to get a Romulan or Borg or we will be in a much worse situation tomorrow morning.



So with Troopers workings out (which i know arn't 100% accurate as I know I am a civilian) Malc seems to be today's suspect at the moment. Since i don't know Trooper isn't a Romulan or Borg i have added him to the list for myself, but i do like his reasoning so the list I have is

Trooper
Davpaz
Kovacsc
Malc
Craster
Joans
NervousPete
Flis


I am going to have a good re-read over the logs and have a think, might end up going for a hunch feeling again (worked out ok for my Mr Dom FoS). Will pst later when i have re-read it all

Intersting how it starts with me and goes down, but

Mr Russell 17
Bobbyaro 16
gospvg 15
TheVision 15

Al only have 1-3 posts more than me and are not included?

My job keeps me away from the messhall more than I'd like, so I can't post all the time I'd like... If you notice me posts are mostly morning, lunch and evening...

And in those periods can be quite busy...

I would say you and TheVision or gospvg are on a team, and as TheVision joined with you in voting for me, I'd say it's most likely you two.

I don't know if you are borg, romulan or Officers, but I reckon you are on the same team...

Malc

Do you know what I find interesting?

A) at no point did you refute the accusation, you only talked about why you had posted when you did. Isn't it a natural reaction of an innocent man to stand up for themselves, and isn't it instead a natural reaction of a guilty man to try and explain away their actions?
B) you give credence to my theory by accepting it as a premise and adding more names into the frame, so you agree the theory that puts you in the frame has merit?
C) your tactic is to try and deflect interest away from you and onto others, firstly by adding more names to the list, and secondly by accusing me of being in a team with others. (which I categorically am not, I can guarantee that I am a civilian)
D) you even try to say that I might be on a team of officers. Why would you want to out the good power roles, why would you even want to hint at that?

There is no point in denying anything, it's just words, and is taken as given, everyone's going to say they are a civillian when asked, as someone else mentioned, sometimes if you defend yourself too much, people jump on that...

I don't think you are an officer, as that would mean you outted yourself and TheVision as being on the same team, and that's not something I think a goodie power role would do, I think you're both baddies, and that's why I felt confident in naming you like that.

Also, I could be wrong, I thought EBG and bobby were on the same team (by which I mean communicating with each other, bobby could be good too) and I was wrong there...

I just thought it was odd, that the list started 1/2 way down, bang on my name, when there were 2 people with one more post, and 2 more people with only 3 more posts.

If I had posted one more time, would I have been ommited from the list?

If TheVision had posted one less would he have been on it?

I'm not saying that your idea has merit, and I have no idea of the tactics being used by any of the teams here, just that it seems odd that if you're positing an idea like that and were being neutral about it, then you'd start at a big gap...

Malc

Also, there are 22 names on that list, and I'm in 12th place, so the middle person would be above me, TheVision, and if you're sticking with 5 names, then

Bobbyaro 16
gospvg 15
TheVision 15
Malc 14
Craster 13
Slightly Green 12

would be the obvious ones to use, the total of all those numbers in your post is: 369

divide that by 22 and you have 16.77 so that would center on bobby and have the following people in:

myp it 23
Mr Russell 17
Bobbyaro 16
gospvg 15
TheVision 15


Also, your premise, is essentially: "There are baddies in the middle, there's a baddy at the top, and a baddie at the bottom"

So essentially baddies are anywhere!

It's nonsense, and I think it's a deliberate ploy!

[vote:trooper]

MAlc

At what point did I say it was anything about averages or being in the middle? I said it was about saying just enough to get out of the quiet zone, but not enough to get noticed.

Why did I choose you four? Because I expect that there are roughly that number of Romulans and I worked my way up from the bottom of the list of the more likely suspects.

And you end with a retaliatory vote?

When I voted for you it was on a hunch. Now i'm more certain that I hit very close to home.

You might not have mentioned averages, but you did mention doing science, I don't think what you did was science, it was just a way to draw up a list of people, and try to find a group of people that fit in with it, that didn't include any of your team mates...

I wouldn't be surprised if TheVision and whomever is directly below your list of 4 were both in your team (maybe a gap of 1)

Your science still basically becomes one from the top, 2 from the middle, 1 from the bottom, and essentially includes everyone.

Shit, just checked, and everyone below the bottom of your list is dead, which makes it even odder, you've essentially picked the bottom 5 posters who are not dead, not the middle at all. Ah, made a mistake here

Hmm,

Your list starts, with 4, then supposedly adds on some from the top and bottom, but you didn't add any from the top, only 2 more on to the bottom.

This is even odder...

I really don't know what to say, do we have a nutter in the game?

Malc

Oh and I forgot to say, you mentioned I didn't defend myself enough, and then when I defended myself some more, you mentioned I was defending myself too much...

Man can't win!

Like I said on the first day (maybe the 2nd) people are muddying the waters on purpose, and I think Trooper is the main culprit here... (unless you think my stream of consciousness above is muddying)

Malc

All pretty meaningless as you've only included their final vote, not who they've voted for throughout the day (some people have changed their vote towards the end of a day to make sure there's an airlocking).

[vote:flis] for being quiet.

I think time was short, the day was nearly over & the age of thought "any lynch is better than none" prevailed
Hindsight is always a lovely tool but after the roleclaim we should have unvoted.

Got to agree with that, only 4 posts?

[vote:flis]

More to provoke a reaction, but she's the quietest one left, and so with all the other low post count ones being 'good' then my probability sense is tingling.

I'm of the opinion that Myp and Russell's love-in is actually a cunning ruse to hide the fact that they're working together.

Myp votes for Russell every day as a 'joke' to distract attention.

Therefore [vote:myp it]

Evidence currently shows that the bad guys aren't being quiet, so probability shows that the probably isn't bad!

However, accepting the more convulted option 2 as a premise, and the fact that she posted twice on day 1 and twice on day 2, each time once at the start and once later on to vote. Then it does seem dodgy behaviour.
Also a vote for Flis will find us out two things, firstly who she is, but it will also give us a bit more info on DavPaz. Flis voted for him on day 1, which means it is unlikely they are on the same side.


To get back to Malc for a second, I have a couple more observations to throw into the mix.
Malc doesn't post very much, until I pointed the finger at him, then he posted a lot. So his post count is low not because he can't talk, but because he chooses not to.
Also, I made this post yesterday:



Last night, I was locked in my room.
Was that because the Romulans thought I had an investigative power role and had found something out on night 1, I wonder.

That was meant to say

Evidence currently shows that the bad guys aren't being quiet, so probability shows that she probably isn't bad!

Who did you mostly finger on day 2?

I gave Malc a deep, hard fingering, until I switched to Mr Dom when it was evident that no-one was listening to me,

There's still no-one listening. Except me.

*bends over*

Sorry but just a quick one before work again



With the voting as it is now and nothing better to go on i will [vote:flis] for now just to try to get some reaction from her, but will try to get on at lunch time to have a read over and see if anything more has cropped up, should be home earlier today so can be more active this evening.

OOC: I'm not really allowed on the web during the day, so most of my posts, (go on, look at them) are before 09:00, during lunch, or after I finish work and get home (so normally evening).

I do occasionally get the chance to read stuff outside of these hours, and if I see something I feel I need to respond to, I do, I don't like doing it, because I might get in trouble at work, but I sometimes do any way, during mini breaks...

Also, I was 1 off the middle number of posts in your list, that's hardly someone who chooses not to post, 7 posts a day! it's allright, not brilliant, and if I was able to post through the day I would and it would be more, but it's not and I can't.

This also means I sometimes miss things, and I completely missed where you posted the msg you quote in that message, so I'm going to go back and re-read day 2, because I might have missed more.

Malc

PS you've got 10 more minutes of me (or so) until I go silent again for a bit

Sorry my post count was short yesterday... I was on a training course and had a 3 hour drive home.

When I got to ikea to look at my phone, Q was already dead...

waking up in a groggy haze the place seems quieter without Zaphod and EBG. They we're both of the more chatty brigade, but we really need to flush out the romulans or the borg as the borg will be up to 3 people now and this could get out of hand! I have no idea on who the borg queen might be but since it's a queen I'll got for [vote:flis] as that's all I can go on at the moment.