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 Post subject: Re: americanism
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Lots of those aren't even Americanisms but simply examples of poor grammar. Mostly, though, it seems to be moaning cunts just moaning about anyone who phrases things at all differently than they do.


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Lots of those aren't even Americanisms but simply examples of poor grammar. Mostly, though, it seems to be moaning cunts just moaning about anyone who phrases things at all differently than they do.

Yeah, I thought that too. I used to be a lot more militant about Americanisms than I am now. Probably part of the fact is that I went there and had a thoroughly awesome time.

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 Post subject: Re: americanism
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And you work for an American company..

Well, anything's a step up from a German one.

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 Post subject: Re: americanism
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There's a certain charm to the way the yanks have held on to words that sound archaic to us. I love how at junctions the instruction is not 'give way' but 'yield'. Likewise, 'turnpike' and 'faucet' - wonderfully oldey worldey.

It did occur to me that if I pursue my dream of studying at a college in the US, I'll have to learn US spellings for things, which might take a while to get the hang of. Thankfully, I'm never quite sure on -ise or -ize, but I'd miss the 'u's in 'colour' etc.


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 Post subject: Re: americanism
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Technically, of course, their spelling is more correct than ours.

That said, I do get seriously annoyed when websites use the American flag to illustrate "English" as a language option.

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 Post subject: Re: americanism
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There's a certain charm to the way the yanks have held on to words that sound archaic to us. I love how at junctions the instruction is not 'give way' but 'yield'. Likewise, 'turnpike' and 'faucet' - wonderfully oldey worldey.

It did occur to me that if I pursue my dream of studying at a college in the US, I'll have to learn US spellings for things, which might take a while to get the hang of. Thankfully, I'm never quite sure on -ise or -ize, but I'd miss the 'u's in 'colour' etc.


It's easy. Just remove 'u' from everything and use 'ize' for everything that would use 'ise'.


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There's a certain charm to the way the yanks have held on to words that sound archaic to us. I love how at junctions the instruction is not 'give way' but 'yield'. Likewise, 'turnpike' and 'faucet' - wonderfully oldey worldey.

It did occur to me that if I pursue my dream of studying at a college in the US, I'll have to learn US spellings for things, which might take a while to get the hang of. Thankfully, I'm never quite sure on -ise or -ize, but I'd miss the 'u's in 'colour' etc.


It's easy. Just remove 'u' from everything and use 'ize' for everything that would use 'ise'.


That's rather a sulforous comment. Really got my epipherine going.

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 Post subject: Re: americanism
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There's a certain charm to the way the yanks have held on to words that sound archaic to us. I love how at junctions the instruction is not 'give way' but 'yield'. Likewise, 'turnpike' and 'faucet' - wonderfully oldey worldey.

It did occur to me that if I pursue my dream of studying at a college in the US, I'll have to learn US spellings for things, which might take a while to get the hang of. Thankfully, I'm never quite sure on -ise or -ize, but I'd miss the 'u's in 'colour' etc.


It's easy. Just remove 'u' from everything and use 'ize' for everything that would use 'ise'.


That's rather a sulforous comment. Really got my epipherine going.

I'd curl up in the fetal position in defense.

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There's a certain charm to the way the yanks have held on to words that sound archaic to us. I love how at junctions the instruction is not 'give way' but 'yield'. Likewise, 'turnpike' and 'faucet' - wonderfully oldey worldey.

It did occur to me that if I pursue my dream of studying at a college in the US, I'll have to learn US spellings for things, which might take a while to get the hang of. Thankfully, I'm never quite sure on -ise or -ize, but I'd miss the 'u's in 'colour' etc.


It's easy. Just remove 'u' from everything and use 'ize' for everything that would use 'ise'.


That's rather a sulforous comment. Really got my epipherine going.


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 Post subject: Re: americanism
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Remember: you shouldn't be needing stairs to get to the first floor. Unless you're in the basement, obviously.


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 Post subject: Re: americanism
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There's a certain charm to the way the yanks have held on to words that sound archaic to us. I love how at junctions the instruction is not 'give way' but 'yield'. Likewise, 'turnpike' and 'faucet' - wonderfully oldey worldey.


Oooh, this I agree with. A lot of the words and phrases used are a lot more prosaic than our rather more utilitarian descriptions.

"Sidewalk" aside, obviously.

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 Post subject: Re: americanism
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Remember: you shouldn't be needing stairs to get to the first floor. Unless you're in the basement, obviously.


Woah woah woah. We say "first floor" to refer to the floor above ground level, don't we? Don't the yanks say "first floor" to refer to ground floor?


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Woah woah woah. We say "first floor" to refer to the floor above ground level, don't we? Don't the yanks say "first floor" to refer to ground floor?


Yep. Our system makes so much more sense. The youth hostel in New York I stayed in used the European system, which confused me!


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Woah woah woah. We say "first floor" to refer to the floor above ground level, don't we? Don't the yanks say "first floor" to refer to ground floor?


Yep. Our system makes so much more sense. The youth hostel in New York I stayed in used the European system, which confused me!


Crazy bastards! They need some standardization.


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 Post subject: Re: americanism
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See, I think the US system for storeys makes more sense than ours.

Can't work out why I think that though.

At first I thought it was because I'm a programmer, and the first floor being on the ground is more logical. But then I remembered that programmers tend to deal with arrays and things starting at zero, so the ground floor makes sense in that context.


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Whilst some Americanisms and 'business-speak' things are wanky, a lot of them are useful, and a lot of the people in that article are simply wrong, and need a big slap.

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Whilst some Americanisms and 'business-speak' things are wanky, a lot of them are useful, and a lot of the people in that article are simply wrong, and need a big slap.


it just isn't sport anymore.

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16. "I'm good" for "I'm well". That'll do for a start. Mike, Bridgend, Wales


I don't even know what's wrong with this one. Plus, Mike is from Wales any way.


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16. "I'm good" for "I'm well". That'll do for a start. Mike, Bridgend, Wales


I don't even know what's wrong with this one. Plus, Mike is from Wales any way.

"I'm good" is a fuck of a lot better than the UK's "alright?" "alright?" form of conversation on inner wellness.

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16. "I'm good" for "I'm well". That'll do for a start. Mike, Bridgend, Wales


I don't even know what's wrong with this one. Plus, Mike is from Wales any way.

"I'm good" is a fuck of a lot better than the UK's "alright?" "alright?" form of conversation on inner wellness.


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The day after I returned from holiday I drove back to Cornwall. I somehow managed to forget that I wasn't driving an automatic, and, still in fifth gear, stalled quite fantastically in a service station car park. I then made the same mistake at a roundabout a few hours later. :facepalm:


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 Post subject: Re: americanism
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it just isn't sports anymore.


Feex.

I get much more annoyed these days with people moaning about language changes and business speak than I ever did about the words themselves.

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Feex.

I get much more annoyed these days with people moaning about language changes and business speak than I ever did about the words themselves.


Language naturally evolves (to google, to tweet and so on) with their users, and although I do dislike sloppy use of English, I don't believe that crossing the particular Rubicon to the French method of language protection is the answer. If you can make yourself understood at work, then that's all well and good, and workplace parlance is, nowadays, an accurate reflection of the international world we live in.

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I get much more annoyed these days with people moaning about language changes and business speak than I ever did about the words themselves.

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Woah woah woah. We say "first floor" to refer to the floor above ground level, don't we? Don't the yanks say "first floor" to refer to ground floor?


Yep. Our system makes so much more sense. The youth hostel in New York I stayed in used the European system, which confused me!

Some places in the UK (well, Wales anyway) have adopted the US system. I can think of a shop and a educational centre which use it. I always think "no, this is the ground floor". :)

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Canada's annoying, because it has loads of Americanisms but not a few otherwise common ones. You ask for the cheque and they say "You mean the bill, sir?". Gits.

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The day after I returned from vacation I hightailed it back to Cornwall. I somehow managed to forget that I was driving stick, and, still in fifth gear, stalled quite awesomely in a gas station parking lot. I then made the same mistake at the traffic circle a few hours later. :facepalm:

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Kern wrote:
The day after I returned from vacation I hightailed it back to Cornwall. I somehow managed to forget that I was driving stick, and, still in fifth gear, stalled quite awesomely in a gas station parking lot. I then made the same mistake at the traffic circle a few hours later. :facepalm:


:D

(I've only come across one traffic circle in the US, and that's in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. It was great fun watch them struggle with it)


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The day after I returned from vacation I hightailed it back to Cornwall. I somehow managed to forget that I was driving stick, and, still in fifth gear, stalled quite awesomely in a gas station parking lot. I then made the same mistake at the traffic circle a few hours later. :facepalm:


:D

(I've only come across one traffic circle in the US, and that's in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. It was great fun watch them struggle with it)



There's one in Mason City, Iowa. Just before we were picked up (for an unrelated incident) by the police, my mate and I were in the bed of a pick up truck drinking beer as our friend drove around it several times. Good times. Except for the police bit. That was a bit embaressing.

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The day after I returned from vacation I hightailed it back to Cornwall. I somehow managed to forget that I was driving stick, and, still in fifth gear, stalled quite awesomely in a gas station parking lot. I then made the same mistake at the traffic circle a few hours later. :facepalm:


:D

(I've only come across one traffic circle in the US, and that's in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. It was great fun watch them struggle with it)

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Our American chums have some rather unusual Christian names like Buzz, Rock and Tag. Mind you, I expect some of ours sound odd.

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Our American chums have some rather unusual Christian names like Buzz, Rock and Tag. Mind you, I expect some of ours sound odd.



Chuck Stetson is the best american name I've recently encountered.

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Chuck Stetson is the best american name I've recently encountered.

Chuck Stetson, Jr., would be cooler.


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I've had at least two Americans raise the question of the current economic superfuntime ask me if Britain was contemplating leaving the Euro and returning to the pound.


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See, I think that's perfectly acceptable.


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See, I think that's perfectly acceptable.


In German, yes. Schreib mir!


In english, too.

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I've had at least two Americans raise the question of the current economic superfuntime ask me if Britain was contemplating leaving the Euro and returning to the pound.

I'm surprised they even know what the pound is. Most Americans I've spoken to haven't.

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