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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 14:10 
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Biblical Scholar Predicts Date of the Rapture

Spoiler - it's next Saturday. No-one had plans, did they?

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Harold Camping lets out a hearty chuckle when he considers the people who believe the world will end in 2012.

"That date has not one stitch of biblical authority," Camping says from the Oakland office where he runs Family Radio, an evangelical station that reaches listeners around the world. "It's like a fairy tale."

The real date for the end of times, he says, is in 2011.

The Mayans and the recent Hollywood movie "2012" have put the apocalypse in the popular mind this year, but Camping has been at this business for a long time. And while Armageddon is pop science or big-screen entertainment to many, Camping has followers from the Bay Area to China.

Camping, 88, has scrutinized the Bible for almost 70 years and says he has developed a mathematical system to interpret prophecies hidden within the Good Book. One night a few years ago, Camping, a civil engineer by trade, crunched the numbers and was stunned at what he'd found: The world will end May 21, 2011.

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 Post subject: Re: Rapture
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 14:13 
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 Post subject: Re: Rapture
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 14:13 
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I heard about that last week. Crazy Merkin preacher man. Crazy religion merkins following him. Wonder what he'll say when it doesn't happen.

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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 14:14 
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 Post subject: Re: Rapture
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 14:14 
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Nirejhenge wrote:
I heard about that last week. Crazy Merkin preacher man. Crazy religion merkins following him. Wonder what he'll say when it doesn't happen.


Probably about what he said last time.

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This is not the first time Camping has made a bold prediction about Judgment Day.

On Sept. 6, 1994, dozens of Camping's believers gathered inside Alameda's Veterans Memorial Building to await the return of Christ, an event Camping had promised for two years. Followers dressed children in their Sunday best and held Bibles open-faced toward heaven.

But the world did not end. Camping allowed that he may have made a mathematical error. He spent the next decade running new calculations, as well as overseeing a media company that has grown significantly in size and reach.

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 Post subject: Re: Rapture
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 14:15 
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Wonder what he'll say when it doesn't happen.
They'll adjust and re-calculate, same as the article said they did in 1994.

This is from a great post on why facts don't change people's opinions.

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"A MAN WITH A CONVICTION is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point." So wrote the celebrated Stanford University psychologist Leon Festinger (PDF), in a passage that might have been referring to climate change denial—the persistent rejection, on the part of so many Americans today, of what we know about global warming and its human causes. But it was too early for that—this was the 1950s—and Festinger was actually describing a famous case study in psychology.

Festinger and several of his colleagues had infiltrated the Seekers, a small Chicago-area cult whose members thought they were communicating with aliens—including one, "Sananda," who they believed was the astral incarnation of Jesus Christ. The group was led by Dorothy Martin, a Dianetics devotee who transcribed the interstellar messages through automatic writing.

Through her, the aliens had given the precise date of an Earth-rending cataclysm: December 21, 1954. Some of Martin's followers quit their jobs and sold their property, expecting to be rescued by a flying saucer when the continent split asunder and a new sea swallowed much of the United States. The disciples even went so far as to remove brassieres and rip zippers out of their trousers—the metal, they believed, would pose a danger on the spacecraft.

Festinger and his team were with the cult when the prophecy failed. First, the "boys upstairs" (as the aliens were sometimes called) did not show up and rescue the Seekers. Then December 21 arrived without incident. It was the moment Festinger had been waiting for: How would people so emotionally invested in a belief system react, now that it had been soundly refuted?

At first, the group struggled for an explanation. But then rationalization set in. A new message arrived, announcing that they'd all been spared at the last minute. Festinger summarized the extraterrestrials' new pronouncement: "The little group, sitting all night long, had spread so much light that God had saved the world from destruction." Their willingness to believe in the prophecy had saved Earth from the prophecy!

From that day forward, the Seekers, previously shy of the press and indifferent toward evangelizing, began to proselytize. "Their sense of urgency was enormous," wrote Festinger. The devastation of all they had believed had made them even more certain of their beliefs.

In the annals of denial, it doesn't get much more extreme than the Seekers. They lost their jobs, the press mocked them, and there were efforts to keep them away from impressionable young minds. But while Martin's space cult might lie at on the far end of the spectrum of human self-delusion, there's plenty to go around. And since Festinger's day, an array of new discoveries in psychology and neuroscience has further demonstrated how our preexisting beliefs, far more than any new facts, can skew our thoughts and even color what we consider our most dispassionate and logical conclusions. This tendency toward so-called "motivated reasoning" helps explain why we find groups so polarized over matters where the evidence is so unequivocal: climate change, vaccines, "death panels," the birthplace and religion of the president (PDF), and much else. It would seem that expecting people to be convinced by the facts flies in the face of, you know, the facts.


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 Post subject: Re: Rapture
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 14:18 
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 14:18 
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 Post subject: Re: Rapture
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 14:23 
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As you won't be able to take it with you, feel free to give me all your money.


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 Post subject: Re: Rapture
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 14:32 
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Well, after reading his sums on page two, I'm convinced. (Atonement x Completeness x Heaven), squared? Sold!


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 Post subject: Re: Rapture
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 14:36 
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 Post subject: Re: Rapture
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 15:00 
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 Post subject: Re: Rapture
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 15:05 
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 Post subject: Re: Rapture
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:28 
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What always gets me is why these pastors think that the Almighty considers them worthy of saving? Perhaps Mr Camping is still here because he was judged and found wanting.


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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:31 
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