Could you pass the 11+?

Malc · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:52

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7/8 for me. I got the number series one wrong. I just couldn't work it out at all. Probably something obvious, but I couldn't get it at all.

Malc

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

I'd bloody hope so, as I did when I was 11.

kalmar · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:55

Mr Chris wrote:

I'd bloody hope so, as I did when I was 11.

Did you pass the 11+?

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Didn't I just say that?

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10174

Mr Chris wrote:

I'd bloody hope so, as I did when I was 11.

This.

No, wait: :this:

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:57

I don't think I ever did one.
Maybe I did.
7/8 for me too, same question as Malc. Even after I had the answer I didn't get it.

Malc · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:58

Grim... wrote:

I don't think I ever did one.
Maybe I did.
7/8 for me too, same question as Malc. Even after I had the answer I didn't get it.

There was an explanation?

Malc

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:58

No, just what number I should have picked.

CUS · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:59

Mr Chris, are you confused and afraid of 'new money' and the metric system?

Dimrill · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:01

6/8 the first multiplication one and the number sequence wrang for me.

LaceSensor · **Joined:** 2nd Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 3137

It was add 8, add 7, add 6, add 5, add 4 etc

one of them didnt fit that convention

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26103

I got eight out of eight.

The number series adds one number less each step of the series. 23 adds seven where it should have added six.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:04

I thought that was the case, but my brane sparks wrong today.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

CUS wrote:

Mr Chris, are you confused and afraid of 'new money' and the metric system?

Ha.

I faintly remember half pennies when they were phased out many years ago, but I have no idea how that nonsensical pre-decimal system worked. I am far too young (still under 30).

As for metric - I have always used a mix of metric and imperial. For some things (like speed of cars and distances of journies) I can only really visualise what things are in Imperial. In other situations, such as measuring lengths (of bits of wood when I'm making things, or lengths in the garden) I always do it in metric. Mainly because it's easier to measure fractional lengths in metric than Imperial.

I don't understand the little Englander dislike of metric.

Malabelm · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:06

I got 5/8 because I just couldn't be arsed working out the answers for an online quiz unless they were almost-immediately obvious.

Plus, I'm a thicko.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:07

nynfortoo wrote:

I got 5/8 because I just couldn't be arsed working out the answers for an online quiz unless they were almost-immediately obvious.

Plus, I'm a thicko.

Yeah, that's why I failed the first question. The brick one I took a wild stab at and was correct.

sinister agent · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 7046

None of you have the handicap of being brought up with modern teachers, remember.

I actually really like and appreciate good teachers but you're a dying breed, y'know

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

8/8. The number series was vague, as it had multiple answers. One other possible, for example, would be 31 - as it is the only number where the digits add up to an even number.

Also the bricks - since when does a pile of bricks assume that they are in a single width stack? Mine were in a triangle to start with (because it's a better shape for 'steps'), meaning that for every 1 brick higher, you have a lot more than one extra brick.

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:11

Spinglo Sponglo! wrote:

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7/8 for me. I got the number series one wrong. I just couldn't work it out at all. Probably something obvious, but I couldn't get it at all.

Malc

8/8 And I'm a scarecrow.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

The sequence should go +8, +7, +6, +5, +4, +3 but 23 should be 22 to make that work.

I passed the 11+ as a child, but everyone went to the comp anyway.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

sinister agent wrote:

None of you have the handicap of being brought up with modern teachers, remember.

At which point did teachers switch over from being the old-fashioned excellent sort to the new-fangled crap modern sort?

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Mr Chris wrote:

I faintly remember half pennies when they were phased out many years ago, but I have no idea how that nonsensical pre-decimal system worked. I am far too young (still under 30).

I am 30, but I never did an 11+.

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As for metric - I have always used a mix of metric and imperial. For some things (like speed of cars and distances of journies) I can only really visualise what things are in Imperial. In other situations, such as measuring lengths (of bits of wood when I'm making things, or lengths in the garden) I always do it in metric. Mainly because it's easier to measure fractional lengths in metric than Imperial.

Totally

for me too. I suspect our entire generation's use of units is fucked up.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:12

When kids had to be taught for tests.

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:13

Mr Chris wrote:

sinister agent wrote:

None of you have the handicap of being brought up with modern teachers, remember.

At which point did teachers switch over from being the old-fashioned excellent sort to the new-fangled crap sort?

1997. [/dailymail]

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

It was 12+ in Bucks in my day but I already passed it too.

Did it anyway, 8/8.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:14

richardgaywood wrote:

Quote:

As for metric - I have always used a mix of metric and imperial. For some things (like speed of cars and distances of journies) I can only really visualise what things are in Imperial. In other situations, such as measuring lengths (of bits of wood when I'm making things, or lengths in the garden) I always do it in metric. Mainly because it's easier to measure fractional lengths in metric than Imperial.

Totally

for me too. I suspect our entire generation's use of units is fucked up.

I remember we had a similar thread on the other place. I do this, and also for heights and weights I use imperial.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

richardgaywood wrote:

Mr Chris wrote:

I faintly remember half pennies when they were phased out many years ago, but I have no idea how that nonsensical pre-decimal system worked. I am far too young (still under 30).

I am 30, but I never did an 11+.

I am 29. Ha! You old man!

Did you not do one through choice, or did you not have any grammars?

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As for metric - I have always used a mix of metric and imperial. For some things (like speed of cars and distances of journies) I can only really visualise what things are in Imperial. In other situations, such as measuring lengths (of bits of wood when I'm making things, or lengths in the garden) I always do it in metric. Mainly because it's easier to measure fractional lengths in metric than Imperial.

Totally

for me too. I suspect our entire generation's use of units is fucked up.

I prefer to think of it as being multi-lingual.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12337

I couldn't recall whether calculators are allowed, and didn't go hunting for the rules, but I got 7/8. Got the who /whom/what question wrong, as it's something I've never been taught so had to guess.

EDIT: Oh yes, I did pass my 11+ originally.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:15

Craster wrote:

8/8. The number series was vague, as it had multiple answers. One other possible, for example, would be 31 - as it is the only number where the digits add up to an even number.

That would not explain why the numbers were in sequence. Any solution to a number sequence puzzle must spot a sequence.

I actually got the order of speed one wrong, as I figured that if I was running a race, I would be overtaken by a galloping horse. Makes sense to me.

I also passed it first time around, and as such any deterioration in mental capacity is... ummm... I forget.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Car speed - imperial
Journey distances - imperial
Lengths - metric
Weights of people - imperial
Weights for cooking - metric
Height - imperial

Bonkers, really.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Mr Chris wrote:

richardgaywood wrote:

Mr Chris wrote:

I faintly remember half pennies when they were phased out many years ago, but I have no idea how that nonsensical pre-decimal system worked. I am far too young (still under 30).

I am 30, but I never did an 11+.

I am 29. Ha! You old man!

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Did you not do one through choice, or did you not have any grammars?

No grammars around here, that I know of anyway. I went to a Comprehensive. When I rocked up to Oxford Uni with my five-As-at-A-level from a state school, I made fucking sure all the £10k-per-term privately-educated four-grade-A types knew aaaaallllll about it

Dimrill · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:17

Exactly Mr Chris my brane is.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

richardgaywood wrote:

When I rocked up to Oxford Uni with my five-As-at-A-level from a state school, I made fucking sure all the £10k-per-term privately-educated four-grade-A types knew aaaaallllll about it

Bloody good for you, mate. I can't stand the crap that gets heaped on state schools.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Grammar schools are still state schools of course.

Also, I don't think I'd have chosen Oxford with a name like Gaywood.

sinister agent · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 7046

Mr Chris wrote:

sinister agent wrote:

None of you have the handicap of being brought up with modern teachers, remember.

At which point did teachers switch over from being the old-fashioned excellent sort to the new-fangled crap modern sort?

It's been a gradual process. Parallel to the same things that have been happening in the police and NHS and basically every public service, too. TARGETS. MANAGEMENT. FEAAAR. Learning? Responding to needs? What kind of fucking hippy are you?

The Rev Owen · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:21

richardgaywood wrote:

When I rocked up to Oxford Uni with my five-As-at-A-level from a state school, I made fucking sure all the £10k-per-term privately-educated four-grade-A types knew aaaaallllll about it

I went with an A and two Cs from a state school. Ha. I win. I think. Wait...

Anyway, I looked at question one of that 11+ exam and thought "I can't be arsed working that out" and pressed the Back button on my browser.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

Curiosity wrote:

Craster wrote:

8/8. The number series was vague, as it had multiple answers. One other possible, for example, would be 31 - as it is the only number where the digits add up to an even number.

That would not explain why the numbers were in sequence. Any solution to a number sequence puzzle must spot a sequence.

There is no mention in the question of a sequence or series. It is referred to as a line of numbers.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26103

There was no 11+ when I was young, either.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

The Rev Owen wrote:

richardgaywood wrote:

When I rocked up to Oxford Uni with my five-As-at-A-level from a state school, I made fucking sure all the £10k-per-term privately-educated four-grade-A types knew aaaaallllll about it

I went with an A and two Cs from a state school. Ha. I win. I think. Wait...

But I got chucked out after one year for being rubbish, so yeah, you definitely win!

Quote:

Anyway, I looked at question one of that 11+ exam and thought "I can't be arsed working that out" and pressed the Back button on my browser.

I clicked through it at random, invalidating my score. I'm entirely capable of working all that out longhand but I'm a freakin' computer programmer. I only use a pen to sign my name.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Dudley wrote:

Grammar schools are still state schools of course.

Indeed they are. They, also, get a lot of stick, but for different reasons.

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:56

Mr Russ wrote:

I couldn't recall whether calculators are allowed, and didn't go hunting for the rules, but I got 7/8. Got the who /whom/what question wrong, as it's something I've never been taught so had to guess.

EDIT: Oh yes, I did pass my 11+ originally.

I wasn't sure of the "rules" either so I did the sums and stuff in my head.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12337

Thinking about it, I should have used rounding for questions like that to get an approximate answer.

Although on rechecking the site all the answers are similar, so that would have been no use either.

Plissken · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 13:08

8/8 although that last one was a bit tricky.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6613

If I remember from my uni maths days, there are an infinite number of ways to define any given finite sequence. Therefore, any of those could be the odd one out.

I hate those kinds of questions - "Which is the odd one out - Car, Dog, Television, Fishing Rod?" It could be any of them, dammit!

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 13:22

Mr Russ wrote:

Thinking about it, I should have used rounding for questions like that to get an approximate answer.

Although on rechecking the site all the answers are similar, so that would have been no use either.

You could just do 'last digit' maths.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

834/3 isn't something everyone can do in their head

BUT

It's easy to see it has to end in 8. As 8x3 = 24, and no other single digit multiplies by 3 to end in 4.

So, two third will end in 8x2 = 16... a SIX!

So, we're taking 6 away from some number or other... which number? Some large odd number times something that ends in 5. So that number will ALWAYS end in five.

We're subtracting something ending in 6 from something ending in five.

Ergo, without any maths harder than 8x3, we know our answer ends in 9. There's only one answer that ends in 9, so we win!

Zardoz · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 13:25

My scarecrow story is ace.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6613

Mine is better. It has tigers and helicopters in it.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 13:29

Zardoz wrote:

My scarecrow story is ace.

Mine was fine until the deus ex corvus ending...

sinister agent · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 7046

Curiosity wrote:

Zardoz wrote:

My scarecrow story is ace.

Mine was fine until the deus ex corvus ending...

Mine was alright until my arms inexplicably grew back and I stopped being a robot.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Mr Russ wrote:

Thinking about it, I should have used rounding for questions like that to get an approximate answer.

Although on rechecking the site all the answers are similar, so that would have been no use either.

Not similar enough, I did the maths ones with approximates.

CUS · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 14:27

Curiosity wrote:

Zardoz wrote:

My scarecrow story is ace.

Mine was fine until the deus ex corvus ending...

Well what did you expect? For the scarecrow to really be a human possessed by an alien, dressed up as a scarecrow? It's a scarecrow story, for pity's sake.

edit: they literally wheeled on a deus ex machina. I wasn't showing off, 'ooo, I know some latin'. You phallus.

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