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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 18:46 
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Or did you mean articles available online? There's a guy on YouTube called TotalHalibut who did a good series of commentating on his first few games back when SC2 came out, analysing what he did wrong and stuff. I'll link when I get to my PC in a bit.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Or did you mean articles available online?

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Online could be referring to online multiplayer, wise ass.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Yes. Aren't we all talking about online play against each other?

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Hey folks,

I play a bit of SC2 mainly Zerg at the mo,

if any of you fancy a game my user id is Decardo and the magic number is 114

ohhh and WTB is the 1st person i added to my friends list....not sure if that is a good thing :D

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Oh Ill add you in fella, my name is Zardoz, not sure of the code.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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AtrocityExhibition wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
Any good online strategy articles?


Watch some of these if you want to terrify yourself :D

http://www.youtube.com/user/HuskyStarcraft


"I don't worry about rushes early on, as if I do get rushed, I'll just leave the game and join another one"

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Yeah, that's weak.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Got this last week, working my way through the single player stuff to get a hang of it before heading over to the multiplayer side of things where I am fairly sure I will fail in a spectactular blaze of flames and fire.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Last night I enjoyed the few missions I played through, the best one was where...

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I covered Tychus while he stomped around in the Thor :metul:


...now do I get to use them?

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Zardoz wrote:
Last night I enjoyed the few missions I played through, the best one was where...

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I covered Tychus while he stomped around in the Thor :metul:


...now do I get to use them?

yeh but the single player campaign is pretty wank tbh, the mission you get a new unit on is the only mission that unit is really needed, and since you get a new unit most missions you end up not really seeing the blighter's again until you go multiplayer :D Thors rock against Mutalisks (i play mainly Zerg so not sure how great they are for other encounters)

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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ohhh did you get the little easter eggs? iirc there is a Tauren outhouse in one of the very early missions, if you click on it a few times it launches and keeps popping up in the cinematic's throughout the rest of the game, a few nods to Diablo and WoW all the way throughout (murloc space marine springs to mind). Anyway off to loose a few more games.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:19 
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yeh but the single player campaign is pretty wank tbh,

Well I've enjoyed playing through it all so far, and it's acts as a tutorial for when I'm playing more multi-player games.

When are the Protoss and Zerg campaigns out?

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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I finished off the campaign last night

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I decided to cut off the nydus worm network and I was slightly annoyed by zerg constantly being catapulted into my base. I went for the nydus worm so I wouldn't have zerg in my base. I actually found the last mission fairly easy.


My couple of games so far have been alright, I've played the novice maps and noticed that if you go mass marines with a few medevacs you can take down most people at about the 12 min mark.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 16:27 
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So as far as MP is concerned, it's always best to go for an all out attack and never spend on defences around your base(s)?

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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I can't speak specifically for SCII yet, but basic RTS skirmish principles apply - the answer is no.

The answer is - there is no answer. It totally, totally, completely depends on what your opponent is trying to do, which is why you should scout if possible and take a look. Base defences could help in a lot of circumstances, but so could building a large army of cheap units early on and rushing the enemy before they get up and running properly. See also: are they building air attack units, naval, etc? What you do should depend on what your opponent is doing - there's never a catch-all strategy, and in such a finely balanced game as SCII, where every unit is theoretically as important and useful as every other, building base defences ought to be as legitimate a strategy as any other.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Personally, I'd always build units for base defence instead of building structures. Sure, I'll have a bunker on my ramp but nothing more than that.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKedeLKK8h4&sns=em

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bn7hxX9fwc&sns=em

Is it possible Blizzard make games that are just too good/full of stuff to do? With this and WoW, I'm worried I'll never get round to finishing all of the unplayed 360 games I have sitting around.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Reinstalling this now so I can get thrashed in multiplays with you lot. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Zardoz wrote:
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Yay!


:)

How do I find you guys online? Is there a post with your blizzard battlenet names anywhere for example? Nearly finished installing and patching anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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We can always start a beex channel for people to be in.

I think my battle.net account name is JonJ, or do you need to email address I signed up with?


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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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How do I find you guys online? Is there a post with your blizzard battlenet names anywhere for example? Nearly finished installing and patching anyway.

I pm'ed you my email address thats linked to my Battle.net account. Add it into the dialogue box that pops up in the lower right corner of the menu.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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I said mine earlier - it's Tobiasfunke but my number thing escapes me - it's back a page or two, add me up! Or if you (and anyone else) wants, drop me a pm and I'll give you my email address so we can be proper full on chums!


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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Damn deceptive patcher, you weren't at 64% at all! You're back on 3% now! Boo! :(

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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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I am currently sat afk in the beex channel.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Ooh we have a channel?

I'd be on but the mrs is playing The Sims and showing no signs of stopping :(


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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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Zardoz wrote:
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How do I find you guys online? Is there a post with your blizzard battlenet names anywhere for example? Nearly finished installing and patching anyway.

I pm'ed you my email address thats linked to my Battle.net account. Add it into the dialogue box that pops up in the lower right corner of the menu.

Once you've added Z, you should be able to get at me through him.

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JonJ, how do i join the beex channel your in? I typed in beex into the channel name box and joined and no one was in there, i am confused

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JonJ, how do i join the beex channel your in? I typed in beex into the channel name box and joined and no one was in there, i am confused


Could be because I just exited the game, I'll start it up again.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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WTB wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKedeLKK8h4&sns=em

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bn7hxX9fwc&sns=em

Is it possible Blizzard make games that are just too good/full of stuff to do? With this and WoW, I'm worried I'll never get round to finishing all of the unplayed 360 games I have sitting around.


Or Blizzard just show pretty much everyone else how to do it properly.


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Still patching. Not played any multiplayer Starcraft before, of any iteration, nor any Warcraft multi. I was decently average at Company of Heroes - more so in micro than in economy. I fully expect a beating.

This better be the last patch, the fact that it doesn't even hint at overall progress is infuriating. Still not as diabolically monstrous as Company of Heroes patching process though. *Shudder*

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Hurray! Here goes!

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Just added you in Pete. Looks like you're not around though.

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Nope, got bored and started tinkering with photos again! ;)

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Tomorrow then?


Tonight then?

Will be free 8:30ish onwards.

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I'll be on around 10ish. Still got the last level to complete though if no ones around.

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Cool, I've got to eat first anyway. Also - downloading World of Tanks beta which has gone open today! Woot!

(At about 1.8k per second via bit-torrent that is, boo-urns)

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I wouldn't mind a game or two as well! I'll either be on SC or WoW, so I'll see if you guys come online and I'll jump in.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Craft II
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I almost don't want to share this with you guys because it's so damn helpful.



You can set your waypoints to an actual unit rather than an area so whatever you build will always go and catch up with your main army! The little stuff like this is what makes it for me. This is by far the deepest "fast-paced" RTS I've ever played.


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I'm too addicted to WoW I'm afraid.

Blizzard do effectively own my spare time, but WoW owns me more than SC2 :nerd:


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Popping onto Starcraft now, you'll either see me as dreaming_lad or Peter Evans, I guess.

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You can set your waypoints to an actual unit rather than an area so whatever you build will always go and catch up with your main army! The little stuff like this is what makes it for me. This is by far the deepest "fast-paced" RTS I've ever played.

Fairly sure this is pointed out in the campaign. If you're impressed by that, you'd probably explode if you learned all the Dawn of War tricks.

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Well, that was an education!

Took out someone before I went down though!

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More practice needed though.

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