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 Post subject: Kinect
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 14:03 
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Various gaming websites are running hands-on with the early games at Microsoft's pre-E3 announcement, which are mostly casual titles.

No word on price or availability yet, but MS's main E3 conference is 6:30pm today.

Also this leak is probably a 360 Slim:
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the (Italian) text mentioned built-in Wifi and a 250Gb HDD.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 14:10 
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Still not arsed about Natal Kinect.

I wonder how flakey the slim model 360 will be, hopefully they've learnt their lesson now.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Doesn't really look that slim. also wonder if they break if you use them on their side like that.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Found this: http://spe.atdmt.com/ds/NMITMUMIMHPU/00 ... 0_V1R2.swf

Seems like a bit too much effort for a fake.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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I'd be interested to see it in the flesh. Looks a bit ugly from that though.

As for Natal/Kinetic, I literally can wait till I get the chance to play with that. It looks horrific, like an over-hyped EyeToy variant.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 17:26 
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I'm gonna go for fake advert... We'll know soon enough if I'm wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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The advert and the word "Kinect" in it before Microsoft announced it as the shipping name for Natal, so it's highly likely to be genuine.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Found this: http://spe.atdmt.com/ds/NMITMUMIMHPU/00 ... 0_V1R2.swf

Seems like a bit too much effort for a fake.


The image quality is piss poor. So I'd say this at least is fake. As for a slim console. I'm going to edge of the side that it'll not be slim, just a new console design (EDIT: although that's probably splitting hairs).

Although as you point out all the facts so far point to me being wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Wait, what? The image quality in the Flash link you quoted is fine. The image quality in the still I posted is rough, but only because it's a reprocessed screen grab from the Flash ad.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Wait, what? The image quality in the Flash link you quoted is fine. The image quality in the still I posted is rough, but only because it's a reprocessed screen grab from the Flash ad.


All that hand waving will be good practice for Kinect :)

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First game out for it is Totemball 2. Or something similary shit, I imagine.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Wait, what? The image quality in the Flash link you quoted is fine. The image quality in the still I posted is rough, but only because it's a reprocessed screen grab from the Flash ad.


Did you not see the last image?


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Boo why is Joy Ride Kinect only! I had been looking forward to it.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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I'm was wrong. It's the Xbox Short! haha! Damn I should have waited for the new one.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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I can't wait until Rockstar go too far with this & there's the inevitable Daily Mail backlash.

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GTA Kinect sees you getting your jollies pumping an invisible hooker by bouncing your hips like Jamaica's Mr Bogle. If you've any energy left by the time you're finished you can twat her over the head by swinging an invisible baseball bat.

Who will stop our children from playing this sick filth?

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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First game out for it is Totemball 2. Or something similary shit, I imagine.


Actually, it looks like "Some shit the Wii has had for years".
Or in other words, even worse than Totemball 2.

[EDIT]Also, Gamestop are apparently setting the preorder price at $150, which is into Epic Facepalm territory if true.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:59 
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JohnCoffey wrote:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/xbox-360-250gb-first-unboxing/


It's all grille which seems like a sensible move.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Reduced noise, more USB ports, optical audio output that doesn't get blocked by the HDMI lead. Seems like a useful update to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:48 
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and inevitable really as I've just got myself a 360. This happens a lot with me. Late to adopt something, and then when I do, an updated version comes out. (I got the DS chunky the week before the DS Lite was announced for example)

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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and inevitable really as I've just got myself a 360. This happens a lot with me. Late to adopt something, and then when I do, an updated version comes out. (I got the DS chunky the week before the DS Lite was announced for example)


That's twice then. Everybody hates you :p

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Malc wrote:
and inevitable really as I've just got myself a 360. This happens a lot with me. Late to adopt something, and then when I do, an updated version comes out. (I got the DS chunky the week before the DS Lite was announced for example)


That's twice then. Everybody hates you :p


Or maybe I just don't keep up with current/near future gaming trends!

There are more examples, but they are boring, and to do with Graphics cards, and gaming mice and such.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Malc wrote:
and inevitable really as I've just got myself a 360. This happens a lot with me. Late to adopt something, and then when I do, an updated version comes out. (I got the DS chunky the week before the DS Lite was announced for example)

Malc


Even more amusing, it looks like there's about to be a price drop on the current models, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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I can't buy a new one and swap the hard drive between rooms, there aren't any memory unit slots, and they've not moved profiles and saves into "the cloud". That sucks, because I want one.

Although I suppose the USB stick update will help?


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:28 
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and inevitable really as I've just got myself a 360. This happens a lot with me. Late to adopt something, and then when I do, an updated version comes out. (I got the DS chunky the week before the DS Lite was announced for example)

Malc


Even more amusing, it looks like there's about to be a price drop on the current models, too.


you can't beat cheaper than free though can you?

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I want one!

Even thought I've got a perfectly good 360 at home, I'd like something shiny and new.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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You can use the transfer kit. There are several kicking around in the group - I have one, ferinstance.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Vaguely tempted to sell my still-working-but-ancient-and-noisy old one and get a new pricedropped one before they're discontinued..

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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You can use the transfer kit. There are several kicking around in the group - I have one, ferinstance.
Can you? The HDD is a new design, mind.

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Although I suppose the USB stick update will help?
If by "help" you mean "fix the problem" then yeah!


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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On one of the Video's (3:30) they asked one of the MS guys and he says its the same transfer process... which he seems to say is the same transfer cable.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Reduced noise, more USB ports, optical audio output that doesn't get blocked by the HDMI lead. Seems like a useful update to me.


The BBC Story on this says

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Microsoft has launched a slimmer and more powerful Xbox 360.


More powerful? Does having built-in wifi count? It's still the same spec 360, isn't it?

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Well if it produces less heat, it's actually less powerful because of physics.


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Looks like it will be a darn sight better at dissapating that heat, though.

Looks very nice. Nice and shiny like my Ali.... :D

Bet it's prone to fingyprints though.

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Looks like it will be a darn sight better at dissapating that heat, though.


That will make your room warmer when you get one then, right? ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Well if it produces less heat, it's actually less powerful because of physics.

That's entertainingly wrong.

[edit]Unless it's purely a heater, I guess.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Just seen the ad for the upcoming new 360 and it says it's ready for Kinect. Is that just marketing rubbish or does the new model have something for Kinect that the older models don't?

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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It has a special Kinect port. Everyone else will be using the (bundled I'd imagine) USB-to-Kinect widget.

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Speculation: if plugged into a normal 360, Kinect needs a wall plug PSU. When plugged into the special new "aux" socket on the new 360s, it doesn't. I can't see anything else this Aux port can be for.


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Maybe the USB widget will be a separate purchase to squeeze a few more dollarpounds out the the long-term xboxers


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What's slightly puzzling is the decision to include more USB ports on new model, particularly on the less accessible rear. I don't have much USB equipment for the 360, just the Wi-Fi dongle (which the new 360 renders obsolete) and a play and charge kit. Is there actually that much stuff that you'd want permanently connected?

Makes me wonder if Kinect is going to require more than just the new Aux port... or if there are some other projects in the pipeline that will actually make use of the new USB ports.

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If you have The Rocking Band One instruments, that's another 3 at least you'd need. Plus I have the live cam. And some may have USB storage devices now attached. Yooooossssuubbbb.

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 Post subject: Re: Project Natal is now "Kinect"
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Just ordered one of these ready for collection on launch day. I am particularly interested in the 'whisper quiet' marketing bumph. We'll see (or hear as it were) if it is all worth it.

I was surprised by how little my original 360 Premium (20gb) was worth as a trade in - £60. It's almost worth keeping as a spare, or at least taking with me when I work away.

Either way, this does mean that I will soon have a 360 USB WiFi adapter for sale if anyone is interested.


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Speculation: if plugged into a normal 360, Kinect needs a wall plug PSU. When plugged into the special new "aux" socket on the new 360s, it doesn't. I can't see anything else this Aux port can be for.


Confirmed on Major Nelsons podcast this week , the new xbox has 2 front USB's , 3 rear plus the Kinetic one which is described as a 'fat USB connection with a cut out'


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Confirmed on Major Nelsons podcast this week , the new xbox has 3 rear USB's , 2 front , plus the Kinetic one which is described as a 'fat USB connection with a cut out'
Oh yeah, I also saw confirmation on, umm, Kotaku I think the day after I posted that. I forgot to come back and crow about it though.


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What's slightly puzzling is the decision to include more USB ports on new model, particularly on the less accessible rear. I don't have much USB equipment for the 360, just the Wi-Fi dongle (which the new 360 renders obsolete) and a play and charge kit. Is there actually that much stuff that you'd want permanently connected?

Makes me wonder if Kinect is going to require more than just the new Aux port... or if there are some other projects in the pipeline that will actually make use of the new USB ports.


I damn sure do: As it stands, I need more ports:

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Also, sometimes, a camera.


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 Post subject: Re: Kinect
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Pricing confirmed as £130/$150. That's a spicy meatball, and a shitty exchange rate.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/micro ... nect-price


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 Post subject: Re: Kinect
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More than the console is mentalist thinking.

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 Post subject: Re: Kinect
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More than the console is mentalist thinking.
It's not though. The new "4Gb" Arcade model (it has flash storage, not a HDD) is £150, and the 250Gb one is £200. The arcade+Kinect bundle is £250.

Edit -- it's not more than the console, that is. I'm leaning towards "it's mentalist" though.


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 Post subject: Re: Kinect
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Microsoft has high hopes for the sensor. Greenberg likened Kinect's launch to that of a new console. "A lot of people have talked about this being the type of leap you would typically see when you went to a new generation," he said.
Uhh, you wish.


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