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 Post subject: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 5:44 
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I'm writing a feature on the best soccer games of all time, and need help with a title.

It was a soccer management game on the Amiga, which replaced the usual stats with colourful descriptions of what was going on in your players' lives. (Marriages, drinking heavily, suffering from depression, etc). From memory, it was one of the first footy manny games to do this. Possibly, it was made by the guys who did Bubble & Squeak, but I'm not sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:31 
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I know Audiogenic's Super League Manager replaced stats with descriptions but I don't know if that's the one you're after?

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:46 
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I think you're thinking of On the Ball?


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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:25 
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I think you're thinking that he thinks he's thinking of On the Ball?


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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:46 
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I liked bubble and squeek.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:43 
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grumpysmurf wrote:
I'm writing a feature on the best soccer games of all time, and need help with a title.


I will kick anyone in the balls who says Football Manager 2 is any good.

Also, for me, Premier Manager was the biggest leap forward since the original Football Manager. It always gets overlooked in favour of Championship Manager but my mate and I were avid Football Manager players and loved Premier Manager on the Amiga.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:48 
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I rather enjoyed Ultimate Soccer Manager on the Amiga, offering bungs/bribes and betting against your own team was a nice option, and building up the ground and surrounding area was also quite cool.

There was an awful one on the Mega Drive, but I can't remember the name of it, where a lot of your players would retire really young 'to run a pub in the country' >:(

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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:54 
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I seem to remember a friend of mine having a football management game ( possibly on the CPC ) where one of his star players retired to open a monkey sanctuary, or something daft like that.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:28 
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I loved On The Ball but I hate football. The latter is probably why I was never any good at it. Or rather Lopink Bruhaha was not a very good manager. I seem to recall Premier Manager did away with stats in favour of descriptions of a player.

I used to play Multi-player Soccer Manager on the speccy quite a bit even though itw as horribly bugged.

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:35 
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Nirejhenge wrote:
I seem to recall Premier Manager did away with stats in favour of descriptions of a player.



You recall wrong, at least in regard to the first game.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 15:15 
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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 18:34 
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
Nirejhenge wrote:
I seem to recall Premier Manager did away with stats in favour of descriptions of a player.



You recall wrong, at least in regard to the first game.


It was one reviewed in the later years of Amiga Power. I never played it so I don't know.

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I didn't think Total Football on the Amiga was too bad. It was isometric, like early FIFA, but not unplayable crap like early FIFA.

Empire Soccer 94 is the most unfairly over-looked football game. It's like one of those Japanese footie arcade games, but far better, with some influence of Speedball 2.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 19:16 
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Premier Manager was awesome, me and a friend at school used to trade the disc with our save file every day, play our match that night, then switch so the other could play the next night... and no, it didn't have any description type stuff, just the usual stats ratings for players out of 100 IIRC.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
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Anonymous X wrote:
I didn't think Total Football on the Amiga was too bad. It was isometric, like early FIFA, but not unplayable crap like early FIFA.

Empire Soccer 94 is the most unfairly over-looked football game. It's like one of those Japanese footie arcade games, but far better, with some influence of Speedball 2.


As Amiga Power said 'Speedball 2 in shorts'.

I hated it personally. I'm not much into football games anyway but this one I found frustrating.

Total Football scored pretty well in AP as I recall.

There's nothing that can compete with Sensi though for the actual football action.

I found the CD32 European Cup one to be the best. Just seemed to control better than other ones to me. But it could be my imagination.

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I did love the old C64 Emlyn Hughes soccer game.

I remember being totally confused by it being a cartridge and not a tape.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
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Curiosity wrote:
I did love the old C64 Emlyn Hughes soccer game.

I remember being totally confused by it being a cartridge and not a tape.

I had that for the CPC. If you ran just past the halfway line and did away+kick for the big hoof it would always go in.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:08 
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Joans wrote:
I think you're thinking of On the Ball?


Yep, that's the one. Cheers.

I'm going to put Sensi at number one, even though half our readers have probably never heard of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:17 
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Grim... wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
I did love the old C64 Emlyn Hughes soccer game.

I remember being totally confused by it being a cartridge and not a tape.

I had that for the CPC. If you ran just past the halfway line and did away+kick for the big hoof it would always go in.


And I had it for the spectrum, it was great. I liked the way you could do angled shots, but the forced perspective meant that if you did one from the top of the screen (so you were above the goal), the ball would just go across the face of goal.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 15:23 
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Here's the finished piece, if anybody's interested.

The ISS Pro anecdote is a true story, incidentally.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 16:00 
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Ultimate Soccer Manager on the Amiga was the only true management game I ever really liked.


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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 19:13 
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grumpysmurf wrote:
Here's the finished piece, if anybody's interested.

The ISS Pro anecdote is a true story, incidentally.

I really rather enjoyed your article, brief as it was. This is a rare accolade that I bestow upon you so consider yourself proud.

Still you should really have included the N64 game World Cup 98 I think it was which seemed to have a dedicated foul button with no penalty for performing them.

Brutal Sports football isn't a 'soccer' game but that was rather good fun. There was on I enjoyed in the arcade quite a bit too. You got to choose your 'captain' not that I could tell any effect it might have. The only arcade football game I was ever any good at.

Oh and Soccer Brawl could possibly have got a mention.

Nah I guess not really. It's fine as it is.

Sensi very much deserves its place as the best footy game of all time.

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 Post subject: Re: Best 'soccer' games
PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 20:07 
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good article, i hate this kind of flip layout of websites though..

is the cube version of mario strikers better than the wii one? did like the wii one


from pes, WE6FE (jap cube only) is the zenith of the classic pes games, translated many teams

and repsect for having roma score in the FM10 screenshot!

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