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Are there any good windows based email clients not made by MS?

I've tried Eudora (about 8 years ago!), the various netscape/seamonkey/mozilla lot, and a few others, but they all seem so clunky.

It must support multiple accounts, have filtering and rules and so on.

So, anyone have any recommendations?

Malc

The Bat! by Ritlabs is what I use. It ain't free though.

I've used Thunderbird without any problems for a good while now. It support multiple accounts but I don't use filtering or rules so I couldn't be sure whether it supports them. I certainly wouldn't say it was clunky though, if Thunderbird is what you're classing as Mozilla?

I use Thunderbird, mainly through lack of choice. It does the job, certainly.

I tried Zimbra Desktop a couple of weeks ago. It's a piece of shit: incredibly slow, doesn't even bother remembering your preferred window size or position etc.

I'm going to ask the obvious question - why not MS?

Why not Gmail?

Why not use microfilm and carrier pigeons?

I've always used MS, mainly because last time I looked there was nothing else good, I wondered if that had changed.

Malc

I like to have my email on my computer.

Malc

Why not Gmail?

Malc

Yeah, in January.

Hmm. I used to use Eudora and then Pegasus Mail for a long time. Trying to keep all of the archives accessible under one program was virtually impossible as the formats changed, and even if you did, the programs had trouble if a given folder went over a particular size..

Then there's keeping them backed up. And what if you want to respond to emails on a couple of different devices?
It was all a big pain in the arse. Gmail is the way forward.

I've been using it since I could enable it on my Domain Apps*. It works fine.

Except that Chrome still doesn't fucking remember my Google cookies for more than about 10 seconds, but that's not GMail's fault.

* Which is a thing that, primarily for me at least, gets my domain email delivered into a customised gmail.

especially as you are using pop3 and not IMAP.
I'd say 'webmail' was the future rather than Gmail, though.

I use Thunderbird and use lots of filtering rules. It does the job perfectly fine. I do get the message about sending in html/text every time I send a message though which is a bit annoying. Whenever I have opted for html it's never come out right at the other end so I always use text.

Have you looked in Options -> Composition -> General -> Send Options... about that?

I just use the one built into Opera. Supports multiple mail accounts and can filter and do labels and all that jazz with a decent search function.

Means changing your browser as well though.

I agree with Malc. Thick client > browser-based every single time. And that's not just for email.

Yeah, I run beex locally too.

I considered it, once.

I used to use Thunderbird until a couple of times it decided it had had enough and stopped working and wouldn't start or let me access me emails. I tried and tried to recover my emails but to no avail. Either it was just too difficult, they were irrevocably lost or I was too rubbish Hey! new DImlies, wooo!

So I gave thunderbird the boot and used webmail until I got my mac. Now I use the mac mail program but I store a web copy of eh emails sent to the account I use for important stuff as well as the local one, just in case.

Oh, man. I'll concede the point purely for that dimlie.

Ooh!

Whaaaaaw!

Not that I've tried it myself, but PopCorn is tiny, lightweight and free to use (and it used to be non-free).

And though they claim it's no longer worked on, I've noticed the files in the archive sport file dates as recent as August 2009.

I nearly asked if we had one of these a few days ago. I can't remember what I wanted it for though

I used to be sold on Thunderbird, extensions, neat, fast etc.

But I just got fed up of it on IMAP. Large mailboxes, long sync times per PC.

Then I discovered really how good searching within Gmail / GoogleApps is. How good grouping messages into those cool threaded tabs is.

I'm a Google webmail convert.

As you may all have noticed, I'm a bit daft and have my head in the clouds a lot so I have used hotmail ever since I have used the internet.

When I had my Blackberry, I could delete emails on my handset and they would be deleted from hotmail as well. Now with my iPhone this doesn't happen, so I don't log onto hotmail for a while and then have to delete 74000 emails. Is there someone I could change to for my email that would let me do the deleting from my iPhone?

Gmail, basically.

But if you set your iPhone up to do IMAP with hotmail, that should work just as well.

I just had a quick google but everything i found said Hotmail don't do(have?) IMAP. I will maybe think about joining Gmail.

There are push apps for hotmail out there Gill.

Also there are 3rd party server people who will act as a synced middle man for your hotmail. IzyMail I think is one but i know nothing about it other than the fact it exists.

But Gmail is king. It has full Exchange support on iPhone so you can sync your email, contacts, calendar Etc with the native iPhone apps.

It's odd, I used to change my mobile number all the time to the point that I was almost impossible to get hold of and I have moved address so much as well, although not so much since 'settling down' (even so, approaching four years together and I've moved five times during that). Changing my email address feels like a big deal though. It must be because it has been the only constant. Now I have to change it sice I have realised that! Oh, how exciting!

I think it is cool that hotmail works properly on my nokia...

Gmail isn't king. Not until it sorts it's fucking idiotic amount of downtime out. Fucking Gmail.

Also - why can't I take emails out of threads and start new threads? Eh? Eh?

Wave has spoiled you.

I want Wave.

I wanted to do that way before Wave, I can assure you.

Yeah, I've heard this, I would want complete control over where I put my emails.

Malc

My main PC runs Thunderbird and when on other computers, I use RoundCube webmail, which doesn't have the functionality of something like Gmail but is simple and quick and as new email comes in, it changes the title of the page to (1) etc so you can across your tabs when a new mail has arrived. Of course, you more advanced types probably get new email notifications through on your iPhoneberryandroid but I'm still old-fashioned.

Phone? I get them on my watch, motherfucker:

oh funky!!

Or if you run gmail as a Chrome "application" - where all the browser stuff is stolen away to make it behave more like a discrete program - you hover over the taskbar button. Though Windows 7 has broken that, somewhat.

FTFY.

There's other webmail?

Yup. It's reliable, too