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So you got 2 years at £29.99 a year?

Yep. Why, is that expensive or something? Certainly a lot cheaper than forgetting and having MS slice it off the registered card every year.

I'm sure I renewed it at £25 for 13 months last year.

I paid £27.99 for mine (12 months). I feel like I got mugged now

The prices on these fluctuate quite a bit , I paid about 25 for my first 12 months

When renewal time came up i found most places were up to 29 but found one for 28 which gave me 13 months

What was nice about them both was i just got an email with the code instead of another box posted with a card which you read the code from then chuck in the bin.

This is why I'll pay slightly over the odds for MS points from Shopto.net or buy them straight from the dash, as I don't get a ridiculous DVD case to dispose of.

It's frankly shocking that the EU allows Microsoft to do it.

Let's start a petition! DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING!

Actually, we could. Put it on TEH SITE.

I APPROVE.

Although, the last time I bought a 'digital delivery' chunk of points, I was emailed a scan of the card. So *someone* is throwing a plastic case away.

Not always. People who buy them wholesale to sell online just get the cards. Those dodgy-looking ones from eBay, for example (that actually end up being ok).

Yeah, I've had that too. I *think* someone said that those vendors can buy the cards without the cases, in bulk like, but I'm not terribly convinced.

[edit] Also myp said it while I was typing this.

I used Gamesbite. Dodgy website, but does what it says on't tin, like.

THE TIME FOR SENSIBLE DISCUSSION IS OVER PEOPLE. THE TIME FOR RECKLESS ACTION IS UPON US!

Unless we act immediately, nobody will be able to accuse us of not thinking it through.

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As so many of you use the points and the live... could you not set one of you up as a dealer/trader?

Depends what proof-of-being-a-business is needed. VAT registration (or filling in a return or something) and that. Probably not worth it.

Good idea though (and the same idea applies to PSN cards).

VAT reg is not needed unless you make over a certain ammount.. iirc

But if they'll only supply to a business registered at Companies House or something, that'll be £150 set-up, or however that works. Unless someone on here with a pre-existing business fancied branching out.

It's also possible you just ring the packers and say "can you send me a wodge of cards please?" - though they could well answer "certainly sir, how many thousands of each do you want?"

More importantly, there's probably some minimum order size of thousands of cards before any of the distributers will look at you.

True, when I was a contrator, my accountant did all that for me..

As I was editing in at that very moment! Grrr, me.

I think the problem is you have to buy silly quantities for the price to come down.

A quick bit of searching finds thewholesaleforums.co.uk where the first Xbox related thread I looked at has 4200 point cards for £28.60 each with a minimum order of 5. Is that a good price?

That's someone selling scans, not just sending out cards.

Even if you go up to 50 cards (which I think we'd struggle to get through in a reasonable timeframe here, to be honest) the price is still over £28 each, so it's probably not worth the hassle.

Ordered you loads of MS points cards? How odd. Mine just sorted out my tax.

It was £11.99 for 2100 after the fiver off at Game (my only frame of reference; I imagine the original £16.99 was poor), so not that good. Maybe that was a bargain, even if the Live sub wasn't so much.

As i don't have an x-box why would he give me ms points

It's an OK price. You can usually find 2100 cards for £15 - £15.50 without looking too hard. I've never seen much below £14.50 or so for 2100 points (apart from voucher shenanigans like the start of this thread).

Aha! I did win then! (Though really everybody loses in crime)

No idea, you said it.

I am sure I didn't as I was replying to Bik about teh cost of setting up a company.. which I did not know as my accountant did that for me!!

Also, 12 months of live-age for £22.11 each, if you buy 5.

I'll need to renew my sub soon so would be up for doing a bulk order if we've got 4 or more others.
Again, if that's actually a good price - I think most people are getting 13 months for only slightly more so maybe not.

Now that is a good price, cheapest I could get when I last renewed was £30 for 12 months -- live sub prices have edged up over the last few years. I'd be in for that.

I'm in.

Why didn't you make that clear?!?!?!!

Me too. I think mine's up for renewal in November.

Mine's up for renewal soon, but I barely use it, so I probably won't.

I thought it was obvious, talking about companies, company house and vat... oh well..

I don't know when mine runs out, how do I check?

live.xbox.com will tell you, somewhere under Account Settings.

Never assume. It makes us both look like an idiot.

Dunno. I just have a feeling it is running out enxt month as i bought mine about this time last year.

It's in the same section on the dashboard, too.

I think it is more you in this case

You're the one who's got an accountant who sends you Xbox Live cards, not me!

Just when you think the Myp And Kovacs Sideshow couldn't get any more tedious, it does.

Found it, you have to click "marketplace" at the top first, then "my account". Mine runs out next month.

These codes look like being about £23 each by the time it's been through PayPal currency conversion.

I'll split this thread if nobody minds..

I'm in, mine expires on the 26th October. Which I believe is the Forza 3 release date isn't it?

I mind.

Balls. Couldn't we have talked about this before I extended my sub by 2 years?