UK file-sharers to be 'cut off'

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:12

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8219652.stm

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The UK government has published new measures that could see people who illegally download films and music cut off from the net.

The amendment to the Digital Britain report would see regulator Ofcom given greater powers to tackle pirates.

The technical measures are likely to include suspending the net accounts of "hardcore copyright pirates".

It is believed that Business Secretary Lord Mandelson has intervened personally to beef up the policy.

The Digital Britain report, published in June, gave Ofcom until 2012 to consider whether technical measures to catch pirates were necessary.

However, according to a statement from the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills released on Tuesday, that timeframe is now considered "too long to wait".

Stephen Timms, minister for Digital Britain, explained the change of heart.

"We've been listening carefully to responses to the consultation this far, and it's become clear there are widespread concerns that the plans as they stand could delay action, impacting unfairly upon rights holders," he said.

ISPs have repeatedly argued that it is not their job to police the web.

There is likely to be widespread anger over the tougher stance being adopted by the government.

I assume "hardcore copyright pirates" are the people that download all the porn. Dimmers?

End of an Era · **Joined:** 25th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 1041

UK file-sharers to be 'cut off' carry on as before, more like.

Beefed up legislation? Pffft. If no one is going to fund the time and effort required to "police" the internet (which would probably cost more than is lost due to ip pilfering), then it doesn't matter what legislation you put in place because it's unenforceable.

I also wonder whether or not this legislation is as water-tight as this bit? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8219438.stm

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16639

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The UK government has published new measures that could see people who illegally download films and music cut off from the net.

I mostly download games and TV programmes so I guess I'll be fine.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:16

Go go mighty PeerGuardian!

Malabelm · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:17

Threats like these are made all the time. Does anything ever become of them?

nickachu · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:19

People will still torrent, there are too many of them for all their internets to be cut off.

The internet would probably explode or something if all these people didnt leak it of it's information

sdg · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:20

nickachu wrote:

People will still torrent, there are too many of them for all their internets to be cut off.

The internet would probably explode or something if all these people didnt leak it of it's information

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:21

nickachu wrote:

The internet would probably explode or something if all these people didnt leak it of it's information

I can only imagine how fast the Internet would actually run if everyone stopped torrenting stuff. It'd be insane.

Dunno what I'd use all that speed for if I wasn't stealing, though...

nickachu · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:22

Stealing things?

Malabelm · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:23

Grim... wrote:

nickachu wrote:

The internet would probably explode or something if all these people didnt leak it of it's information

I can only imagine how fast the Internet would actually run if everyone stopped torrenting stuff. It'd be insane.

Dunno what I'd use all that speed for if I wasn't stealing, though...

On the same note, I wonder how fast my internet at home would be if the people in my house weren't constantly 'stealing'.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

Dimrill wrote:

Go go mighty PeerGuardian!

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Why do people put so much faith in PeerGuardian? It's trivial for the copyright police to circumvent.

metalangel · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:28

Malabar Front wrote:

On the same note, I wonder how fast my internet at home would be if the people in my house weren't constantly 'stealing'.

Not to mention how much faster the police would respond to crimes if copyright pirates weren't shooting them and going to the bathroom in their hats.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:29

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Why do people put so much faith in PeerGuardian? It's trivial for the copyright police to circumvent.

It's IP blocking is based on a publicly-available text file, isn't it?

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Grim... wrote:

It's IP blocking is based on a publicly-available text file, isn't it?

Yes. It's a blacklist of IPs that are suspected to be ones the *IAA and their ilk use to sniff out p2p users from. So, if you're a *IAA staffer, you either rent a domestic ADSL line and use that for a bit, or get a 3G dongle.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:31

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Why do people put so much faith in PeerGuardian? It's trivial for the copyright police to circumvent.

Maybe so, but it's an extra step they have to take when Mr Big next door is unprotected.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

Blocking some people with malicious intent > blocking no people with malicious intent.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Dimrill wrote:

Maybe so, but it's an extra step they have to take when Mr Big next door is unprotected.

What? No. That makes no sense. They only need to get around PeerGuardian once (by using a non-blacklisted-IP), in a trivial manner. It doesn't matter who they are targetting.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:33

Dimrill wrote:

Mr Big next door is unprotected.

Is that your latest download?

Dimrill · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:34

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Dimrill wrote:

Maybe so, but it's an extra step they have to take when Mr Big next door is unprotected.

What? No. That makes no sense. They only need to get around PeerGuardian once (by using a non-blacklisted-IP), in a trivial manner. It doesn't matter who they are targetting.

I'm going to bumfuck you, but you've locked your door. I'll bumfuck the neighbour instead.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Dimrill wrote:

I'm going to bumfuck you, but you've locked your door. I'm bumfuck the neighbour instead.

I don't think PeerGuardian does what you think it does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerGuardian
and in particular
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerGuardi ... ent_issues
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerGuardi ... _criticism

Dimrill · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:35

At least PeerGuardian is legal tender.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:35

Dimrill wrote:

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Dimrill wrote:

Maybe so, but it's an extra step they have to take when Mr Big next door is unprotected.

What? No. That makes no sense. They only need to get around PeerGuardian once (by using a non-blacklisted-IP), in a trivial manner. It doesn't matter who they are targetting.

I'm going to bumfuck you, but you've locked your door. I'm bumfuck the neighbour instead.

That suggests you've got a bum more worth fucking.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

Dimrill wrote:

I'm going to bumfuck you, but you've locked your door. I'm bumfuck the neighbour instead.

It's more a case of "People now have special anti-bumfuck pants, so I'll just start using my diamond-tipped anti-bumfuck pants penetrator as a matter of course" though.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:36

Look at you quick Johnnies and your lightning reply button pressings before I'd fixed my spelling.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:37

Fucking Peerguardian didn't help there, did it?

Dimrill · **Posted:** Tue Aug 25, 2009 16:38

Neither did my anti-spackmo hands software.

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