Billions stolen in bank raid.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 13:47

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8132547.stm

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Space trading game Eve Online has suffered a virtual version of the credit crunch.

One of the game's biggest financial institutions lost a significant chunk of its deposits as a huge theft started a run on the bank.

One of the bank's controllers stole about 200bn kredits and swapped them for real world cash of £3,115.

As news of the theft spread, many of the bank's customers rushed to remove their virtual cash.

Nerds.. *rollseyes*

Quote:

"Basically this character was one of the people who had been running EBank for a while. He took a bunch of (virtual) money out of the bank, and traded it away for real money,"

Apart from using "bunch", for which beating to death is the standard penalty, does what this manchild describe amount to a crime in the real world which has no faires, goblins or mining asteroids?

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 13:51

Dimrill wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8132547.stm

Quote:

Space trading game Eve Online has suffered a virtual version of the credit crunch.

One of the game's biggest financial institutions lost a significant chunk of its deposits as a huge theft started a run on the bank.

One of the bank's controllers stole about 200bn kredits and swapped them for real world cash of £3,115.

As news of the theft spread, many of the bank's customers rushed to remove their virtual cash.

Nerds.. *rollseyes*

Quote:

"Basically this character was one of the people who had been running EBank for a while. He took a bunch of (virtual) money out of the bank, and traded it away for real money,"

Apart from using "bunch", for which beating to death is the standard penalty, does what this manchild describe amount to a crime in the real world which has no faires, goblins or mining asteroids?

No, no real world crime. CCP retain ownership of all game assets and stuff, so no real theft has taken place. Ebaying it I dunno, maybe some terms of the contract with CCP have been broken. Someone just spent 3.5 on in g ame cash that is seriously hot and will be removed. I think this happened last month something.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

Selling it for real wonga is against the Ts&Cs, and he got banned for it. The theft itself is perfectly legitimate though.

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 13:52

I think there's precedent - it was a thing to do with "land" in Second Life, and the judge said it wasn't real theft.

It's a tricky one, to be sure.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 13:53

Man has been banned from SpacePixieLand, btw.

Does EvE allow crafting? I could make a fortune making SpaceMatresses for to keep all your LeccyPennies in!

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 13:53

Hang on a minute: kredits?

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

Yup. ISK - InterStellar Kredits, I believe.

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 13:54

Also:

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The rules governing play within Eve would not have sanctioned Ricdic if he had simply stolen the cash and used it in the game, nor if he had bought kredits with real dollars.

I'm almost positive you're not allowed to buy game money with real money.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 13:55

From the SpaceBank of Kriss Kross. They also make the hyperspace engines on the ships. Kriss Kross will make you jump jump.

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 13:55

Craster wrote:

Yup. ISK - InterStellar Kredits, I believe.

Pah - it's Icelandic Krona, because the game was made in Iceland. Some CCP geek panicked when the game got popular and made that up.

Malabelm · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 13:57

I love Reading about Eve far more than I enjoyed playing it.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 13:57

Craster wrote:

Yup. ISK - InterStellar Kredits, I believe.

Not Icelandic Kronor, then?

Cavey · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 13:58

Someone actually stumped up three grand plus for something that is virtual and presumably can't even be used anyway in the actual game in question? :nerd:

Incredible.

Grim... · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 14:01

Captain Caveman wrote:

Someone actually stumped up three grand plus for something that is virtual and presumably can't even be used anyway in the actual game in question? :nerd:

Incredible.

Easy. At one point, Everquest gold was trading at a higher rate per dollar than the Italian Lira.

And no, he probably sold it in chunks.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 14:04

Grim... wrote:

Also:

Quote:

The rules governing play within Eve would not have sanctioned Ricdic if he had simply stolen the cash and used it in the game, nor if he had bought kredits with real dollars.

I'm almost positive you're not allowed to buy game money with real money.

You can buy Game Time Cards with real cash, then sell them no in game for ISK. There's something called a Plex Code, which I think is effectively the same thing, but an actual object in the game.

Yes, there is crafting in EvE, almost everything in the game is made by the players. See my "top 50 Games" review of EvE for more!!!

EDIT: We only robbed a corporation of 3 Billion, IIRC. On Christmas day.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 14:15

As far as I can tell, nigh on every financial institution in EvE has gone this way. It works for a while and provides returns for the investors, until someone gets bored and absconds with the cash. It's quite funny, as the same old tears happen again and again.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

Pretty sure the Icelanders don't call their money ISK. Craig?

(Also, Icelandic Kroner doesn't have an 'S' in it).

myp · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 14:48

Craster wrote:

Pretty sure the Icelanders don't call their money ISK. Craig?

In the same way we don't call our money GBP, yes.

edit - Citation.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

It'd be like calling our money GQP though.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 14:50

Craster wrote:

It'd be like calling our money GQP though.

Yes, because Icelanders call their country 'Iceland' in English, of course.

They spell it Ísland.

Wullie · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 6183

Craster wrote:

It'd be like calling our money GQP though.

If you're bouncing characters forward by the same amount it'd be GRP shirley & that's plastic (or fibreglass anyhow).

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

myp wrote:

Craster wrote:

It'd be like calling our money GQP though.

Yes, because Icelanders call their country 'Iceland' in English, of course.

They spell it Ísland.

Well it's not Icelandic Kroner then, is it?!

myp · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 15:13

Craster wrote:

Well it's not Icelandic Kroner then, is it?!

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make now. Why would we pronounce it 'Íslandic Kronur' on an English forum? I was explaining why the ISO 4217 currency code for Iceland was ISK.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49244

FUCK YOU!!!!

Malabelm · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 15:16

Craster wrote:

FUCK YOU!!!!

Haha. The ultimate comeback.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 15:39

I'm with Craster 100%

kalmar · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 15:42

myp wins though.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 15:44

Craster wrote:

FUCK YOU!!!!

Come on, I'm in desperate need of a win after 15 barren months.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Jul 03, 2009 15:44

Myps is a shallow bastard though, and Craster always says the right thing in Emo threads about Jesus.

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