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 Post subject: The UK plug, reinvented
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:53 
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/23/uk-f ... h-adapter/

Brilliant!

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It's only a concept but I'd buy a ton of these in a heartbeat. It unfolds to fit a standard socket or can be put in a new slim-style socket whilst folder up. Click through for a video.


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Great stuff!

But look at all that dirty electricity, eh? Tch. I think the money would be better spent on giving it a clean, so we get brighter light from bulbs and sharper definition on our TVs nationwide.

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Ooh, genius!

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Apart from the foot-shattering problem when you tread on one in the dark, I consider the UK plug to be the best design of all of the household plugs.

This goes one better, and it should be made in their millions, and whoever designed it should get a Nobel Prize or something.


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Hmm.mmm.. Looks reasonable I suppose.
Yeah, I'd buy that.


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 Post subject: Re: The UK plug, reinvented
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I like how it's elegantly backwards compatible, whilst allowing you to replace existing gang plugs with tiny slimline ones. Also, when dropped on the floor, it wouldn't ever be prongs uppermost!


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I guess it's only for devices drawing fairly small amounts of power though, it doesn't look hefty enough inside to use for a kettle for example. Not that that's a major drawback because it's still useful for the other 95% of stuff.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 13:48 
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I guess it's only for devices drawing fairly small amounts of power though, it doesn't look hefty enough inside to use for a kettle for example. Not that that's a major drawback because it's still useful for the other 95% of stuff.


I was weighing that up just now but I don't see any reason it couldn't be built to a 13A rating like the normal plug.

Certainly I think it would need to be, in order to claim backwards compatibility and safety.

One area I probably wouldn't use it is where mechanical strength is important, like on a vacuum cleaner or similar. It just looks a bit flimsier.


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Certainly I think it would need to be, in order to claim backwards compatibility and safety.

Does that really matter these days though, what with everything coming with plugs already fitted? It could just be fitted to devices where it's suitable.


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The biggest problem I see with it is that small linear plugpack PSUs (phone chargers and the like) have to go back to the untidy brick-on-a-wire type, rather than the neater wall-wart type.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
The biggest problem I see with it is that small linear plugpack PSUs (phone chargers and the like) have to go back to the untidy brick-on-a-wire type, rather than the neater wall-wart type.

Well either that or they could just get with the programme and start using USB.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
The biggest problem I see with it is that small linear plugpack PSUs (phone chargers and the like) have to go back to the untidy brick-on-a-wire type, rather than the neater wall-wart type.

Except a lot of those never fitted into 4-gangs next to others properly because they were odd shapes.

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markg wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
The biggest problem I see with it is that small linear plugpack PSUs (phone chargers and the like) have to go back to the untidy brick-on-a-wire type, rather than the neater wall-wart type.
Well either that or they could just get with the programme and start using USB.
That's the wrong end of the wire though. Most phones will charge from USB (and indeed micro USB is the new charger standard) but you still need a transformer. We need USB jacks on plug faceplates (and car dashes) ideally.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
We need USB jacks on plug faceplates (and car dashes) ideally.


With 240 volts going into them so I can express my disgust at the idea of power over USB.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
markg wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
The biggest problem I see with it is that small linear plugpack PSUs (phone chargers and the like) have to go back to the untidy brick-on-a-wire type, rather than the neater wall-wart type.
Well either that or they could just get with the programme and start using USB.
That's the wrong end of the wire though. Most phones will charge from USB (and indeed micro USB is the new charger standard) but you still need a transformer. We need USB jacks on plug faceplates (and car dashes) ideally.


Mark's right, they shouldn't still be shipping chargers with phones.

In any case, you can definitely get a low power switch mode charger into a case 1cm wide, so it's not really a problem.


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 Post subject: Re: The UK plug, reinvented
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Certainly I think it would need to be, in order to claim backwards compatibility and safety.

Does that really matter these days though, what with everything coming with plugs already fitted? It could just be fitted to devices where it's suitable.


The problem would show up if you want to sell an IEC cable for a computer with this sort of plug on it - whose to say someone won't put a 13A fuse in and run a tea urn off it instead?


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I'm not sure which thread wins, this one, or the Warhammer thread for geekiness.

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markg wrote:
I guess it's only for devices drawing fairly small amounts of power though, it doesn't look hefty enough inside to use for a kettle for example. Not that that's a major drawback because it's still useful for the other 95% of stuff.
Three quarters of a standard plug is plastic, assuming they can make the spinny-rotatey bit strong enough it'll be fine.


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markg wrote:
I guess it's only for devices drawing fairly small amounts of power though, it doesn't look hefty enough inside to use for a kettle for example. Not that that's a major drawback because it's still useful for the other 95% of stuff.
Three quarters of a standard plug is plastic, assuming they can make the spinny-rotatey bit strong enough it'll be fine.

Yeah, I'm sure it could be done, it's just that the design in that video didn't look to me to be designed to handle much power going through it.


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Serves me right for not watching the whole video. The three-into-one adaptor at the end includes an optional adaptor with two USB outlets.


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kalmar wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
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Plug 2.0 is all about your input.


Plug 2.0 is the new black.

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markg wrote:
BikNorton wrote:
markg wrote:
I guess it's only for devices drawing fairly small amounts of power though, it doesn't look hefty enough inside to use for a kettle for example. Not that that's a major drawback because it's still useful for the other 95% of stuff.
Three quarters of a standard plug is plastic, assuming they can make the spinny-rotatey bit strong enough it'll be fine.

Yeah, I'm sure it could be done, it's just that the design in that video didn't look to me to be designed to handle much power going through it.


That's only because you're used to the massively over built victorian cast-iron British Plug though. The yanks send 15A, unfused, through a couple of bent paperclips and they don't catch fire that often.


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New plug is acebest. It wouldn't look out of place on the shelves of Muji - and that is the international standard of all things acebest.

I therefore declare newplug = win.

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What the hell are these new slim plugs I seem to have missed? Also, which meeting have I missed where everyone decided that plugs and plug sockets were actually interesting? HAVE YOU LOOKED OUTSIDE TODAY? It's glorious!


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I had a look at the new car plug at an EV show recently - it's the same size as a blue (16A) caravan plug but with more pins, and can carry 63A 3-phase!
Absolutely incredible, 43kW of POWAH!


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What the hell are these new slim plugs I seem to have missed? Also, which meeting have I missed where everyone decided that plugs and plug sockets were actually interesting? HAVE YOU LOOKED OUTSIDE TODAY? It's glorious!

What the fuck are you on about:

http://www.interpower.com/icl/guide.htm

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Hey! Look - Danish plugs have a smiley face! :smug:
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I've made the plugs less attractive to children by painting bunny ears on them. They'll learn.

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Sticking the mains through something that can be rotated sounds a bit dangerous.

Do your kids constantly eat the plugs, Dimrill?

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Sticking the mains through something that can be rotated sounds a bit dangerous.

Do your kids constantly eat the plugs, Dimrill?


I've got plenty of appliances with rotating power chords. It isn't much different.


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No, they're eating cabbage and broccoli at the moment, then they chase each other around while squeeking.

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power chords.


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I've got plenty of appliances with rotating power chords. It isn't much different.
A rotating power chord, yesterday:

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That's a celebrating paedophile. I can see where you made the mistake, though.

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No, they're eating cabbage and broccoli at the moment, then they chase each other around while squeeking.


You should ground them.


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Not wishing to derail the thread, but that book that Townshend claimed to be writing hasn't surfaced yet, has it? I wonder what car he drives.

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kalmar wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
markg wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
The biggest problem I see with it is that small linear plugpack PSUs (phone chargers and the like) have to go back to the untidy brick-on-a-wire type, rather than the neater wall-wart type.
Well either that or they could just get with the programme and start using USB.
That's the wrong end of the wire though. Most phones will charge from USB (and indeed micro USB is the new charger standard) but you still need a transformer. We need USB jacks on plug faceplates (and car dashes) ideally.


Mark's right, they shouldn't still be shipping chargers with phones.

In any case, you can definitely get a low power switch mode charger into a case 1cm wide, so it's not really a problem.


I thought there was going to be a standard to charge moblie phones, until then I need a charger with my phone :)

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I wonder what car he drives.


A paedophile's car.

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Mimi wrote:
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I wonder what car he drives.


A paedophile's car.


An icecream van?

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Dimrill wrote:
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Dimrill wrote:
I wonder what car he drives.


A paedophile's car.


An icecream van?


That's not a cornet!


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jonarob wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
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Dimrill wrote:
I wonder what car he drives.


A paedophile's car.


An icecream van?


That's not a cornet!


That's not icecream!


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jonarob wrote:
jonarob wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
I wonder what car he drives.


A paedophile's car.


An icecream van?


That's not a cornet!


That's not icecream!


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Go outside and play Jonarob, this is grownups time.


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