DisplayPort Adapators

KovacsC · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2009 13:49

I am having to do a report at work on DVI and VGA...

And I found this on Wiki - DisplayPort

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort
http://www.displayport.org/

Any one heard of this being used live yet?

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2009 13:50

JC invented them. Then was cruelly cheated out of the design, and didn't get any of the profits.

buy an xbxox

KovacsC · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2009 13:55

MaliA wrote:

JC invented them. Then was cruelly cheated out of the design, and didn't get any of the profits.

buy an xbxox

It is a work thing!!

GazChap · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2009 13:56

Don't the newer Apple MacBook Pros use a variant of this connector?

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2009 13:58

Vista R2 L7 does.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2009 14:03

GazChap wrote:

Don't the newer Apple MacBook Pros use a variant of this connector?

Yes a mini display port..

________ · **Joined:** 23rd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 29

My monitor has one.

http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/pr ... sku=170559

As do most of the snazzier Dell monitors.

kalmar · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2009 16:27

MaliA wrote:

Vista R2 L7 does.

No, it uses something completely new. My mate designed it so I would know.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

Any one heard of this being used live yet?

My Macbook Pro has one (well, a mini one). I'm not clear on what DisplayPort does that HDMI 1.3 doesn't.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:28

I think it is something to do with the way the clocks are sync'd. I will look it up at work.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Oh, I read up on it. There are some minor technical differences but the only important looking one was that DisplayPort is royalty free and HDMI has a licencing cost associated with using it. Computer manufacturers hate that sort of thing. Also, mini DisplayPort is Apple proprietary but they are trying to get it included in the standard.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38611

all of this would be excellent IF hdmi was damn near ubiquitous now. I love the fact that VGA still persists. It makes me warm inside.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:30

DavPaz wrote:

all of this would be excellent IF hdmi was damn near ubiquitous now. I love the fact that VGA still persists. It makes me warm inside.

VGA should be on the way out soon.. I hope

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38611

why, what's wrong with VGA? You can't DRM a nice VGA signal

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:41

DavPaz wrote:

why, what's wrong with VGA? You can't DRM a nice VGA signal

the tech is 20 years old... Digital is always better than Analogue.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38611

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

Digital is always better than Analogue.

Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

Always better is it?

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:46

DavPaz wrote:

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

Digital is always better than Analogue.

Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

Always better is it?

I belive so, but I am open to being corrected.

I mean,

The computer is digital - converts to analouge - sends down cable - analouge to digital conversion - screen displays
or
The computer is digital - sends down cable - screen displays.

Less conversion so better?

kalmar · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:49

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

why, what's wrong with VGA? You can't DRM a nice VGA signal

the tech is 20 years old... Digital is always better than Analogue.

Unless it's DAB versus FM. In which case it clearly isn't.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:51

kalmar wrote:

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

why, what's wrong with VGA? You can't DRM a nice VGA signal

the tech is 20 years old... Digital is always better than Analogue.

Unless it's DAB versus FM. In which case it clearly isn't.

Yes because DAB and FM are a display format... :DD

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38611

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

kalmar wrote:

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

why, what's wrong with VGA? You can't DRM a nice VGA signal

the tech is 20 years old... Digital is always better than Analogue.

Unless it's DAB versus FM. In which case it clearly isn't.

Yes because DAB and FM are a display format... :DD

But you said 'always', not 'display formats are always better digital'

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:09

We are in a display thread.. Not a display and radio thread

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:10

kalmar wrote:

Unless it's DAB versus FM. In which case it clearly isn't.

or vinyl vs cd. *guffaw*

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38611

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

We are in a display thread.. Not a display and radio thread

But you said 'always' man

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:21

DavPaz wrote:

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

We are in a display thread.. Not a display and radio thread

But you said 'always' man

In a display context, i belive digital is better than analouge.

Happy now?

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38611

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

We are in a display thread.. Not a display and radio thread

But you said 'always' man

In a display context, i belive digital is better than analouge.

Happy now?

I find CRt projectors give a much more pleasant image than the harsh grid of LCD.

Many professionals find that an analogue monitor better represents the colour spectrum and makes matching output easier.

I'm just saying...

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:27

but ananlogue monitors convert the analouge signal to digital!!

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

but ananlogue monitors convert the analouge signal to digital!!

CRTs don't.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:38

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

but ananlogue monitors convert the analouge signal to digital!!

CRTs don't.

Yes you are correct.

I only deal with LCDs now..

Are CRTs still in use?

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38611

Man, you're stretching yourself thin here. Kov vs Everyone on 2 fronts.

Yes, CRTs are still used by people who absolutely need 100% of the NTSC colour range to be visible.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:50

DavPaz wrote:

Man, you're stretching yourself thin here. Kov vs Everyone on 2 fronts.

Yes, CRTs are still used by people who absolutely need 100% of the NTSC colour range to be visible.

Fair enough..

What will happen when VGA is eventually phased out?

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38611

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

Man, you're stretching yourself thin here. Kov vs Everyone on 2 fronts.

Yes, CRTs are still used by people who absolutely need 100% of the NTSC colour range to be visible.

Fair enough..

What will happen when VGA is eventually phased out?

Actually, high end CRTs use component anyway

I love this place

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:53

so you are just being a pain?

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:56

He wasn't just being a pain.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38611

myp wrote:

He wasn't just being a pain.

I thought it was my turn!

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:02

When the shoe is on the other foot, you don't like the kick up the arse.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38611

myp wrote:

When the shoe is on the other foot, you don't like the kick up the arse.

ooh, nimble!

chinnyhill10 · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 15695

DavPaz wrote:

Man, you're stretching yourself thin here. Kov vs Everyone on 2 fronts.

Yes, CRTs are still used by people who absolutely need 100% of the NTSC colour range to be visible.

Eh? NTSC has less colour range than PAL IIRC. The black level is higher by about 30 on the RGB scale. Tis why if I shoot in NTSC and then view it on a PAL monitor all the blacks look grey.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38611

chinnyhill10 wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

Man, you're stretching yourself thin here. Kov vs Everyone on 2 fronts.

Yes, CRTs are still used by people who absolutely need 100% of the NTSC colour range to be visible.

Eh? NTSC has less colour range than PAL IIRC. The black level is higher but about 30 on the RGB scale. Tis why if I shoot in NTSC and then view it on a PAL monitor all the blacks look grey.

Thank god someone showed up who knew what they were talking about.

Get him Chinny!

chinnyhill10 · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 15695

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Kovacs Caprios wrote:

but ananlogue monitors convert the analouge signal to digital!!

CRTs don't.

Yes you are correct.

I only deal with LCDs now..

Are CRTs still in use?

Broadcasters still use them. I have a 14 inch portable on the edit suite as well as its easy to check interlacing issues on a proper CRT. Broadcast spec CRT's are expensive, broadcast spec LCD's are obscenely expensive. You can spend 20 grand without trying too hard on a reference quality LCD.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Thu Jun 18, 2009 13:24

myp wrote:

When the shoe is on the other foot, you don't like the kick up the arse.

I don't mind at all.. I had never heard of the Display Port Adaptor, hence I created the thread. As teh DP does not support analouge, it was fair to presume as VGA is 20 years old, it had been superceeded.

I have never seen or used broadcast spec CRTs or LCDs.

Thanks for widening my knowledge

So other than Broadcast spec.. where else are CRTs better? Honest question.

Acording to NEC the DICOM LCDs are brill, but they are expensive and can be calibrated

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 16:37

What a truly crap 4,000th topic.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Grim... wrote:

What a truly crap 4,000th topic.

You've already said that once.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49239

It needed saying again.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 16:47

Shut up, I've been away.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Grim... wrote:

Shut up, I've been away.

You said it. I'm sure you did. Can't find where though.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49239

It was in some other thread, linking to this one. Probably a B&B.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 16:48

Grim... wrote:

Shut up, I've been away.

Anywhere nice?

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Found it:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3876&p=251343#p251343

kalmar · **Posted:** Tue Sep 01, 2009 17:50

Craster wrote:

It needed saying again.

I agree.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38611

Really? We've only had 2 since this one???

Edit: 9 since this one. AND OOOH, 5999 posts! Ban me!

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