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 Post subject: Dollhouse By Sir Joss of Whee-don
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The pilot is on tonight.
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New programme by Joss Whedon. He did Buffy, Angel and Firefly/Serenity.

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In Dollhouse, Eliza Dushku plays a young woman called Echo, a member of a group of people known as "Actives" or "Dolls." The Dolls have had their personalities wiped clean so they can be imprinted with any number of new personas, including memory, muscle memory, skills, and language, for different assignments. They're then hired out for particular jobs, crimes, fantasies, and occasional good deeds. On missions, Actives are monitored internally (and remotely) by Handlers. In between tasks, they are mind-wiped into a child-like state and live in a futuristic dormitory/laboratory, a hidden facility nicknamed "The Dollhouse". The story follows Echo, who begins, in her mind-wiped state, to become self-aware.

Beyond Dushku's character, the show will also revolve around the people who run the mysterious "Dollhouse" and two other "Dolls", Victor and Sierra, who are friendly with Echo (the names are simply letters in the phonetic alphabet). Although the Actives are ostensibly volunteers, the operation is highly illegal and under constant threat on one end from Paul Ballard, a determined federal agent who has heard a rumor about the Dolls, and an insane rogue Active on the other.

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New programme by Joss Whedon. He did Buffy, Angel and Firefly/Serenity.

I'm going to really really mock your hat when I see you.

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Had no idea. Cheers, Grim...!

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Mr Chris wrote:
The whatnow?

In Dollhouse, Eliza Dushku plays a young woman called Echo, a member of a group of people known as "Actives" or "Dolls." The Dolls have had their personalities wiped clean so they can be imprinted with any number of new personas, including memory, muscle memory, skills, and language, for different assignments. They're then hired out for particular jobs, crimes, fantasies, and occasional good deeds.


Hah. Fox Force Five much?


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Mr Chris wrote:
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New programme by Joss Whedon. He did Buffy, Angel and Firefly/Serenity.

I'm going to really really mock your hat when I see you.

Grim.... - thank you, you're very kind.

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Which hat? I have many.

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 Post subject: Re: Dollhouse
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GO GO PLURALISED THREAT

Also - bit Femme Nikita, innit?

The show, that is, not myp's hats.

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He wrote Buffy, btw.

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Hah. Fox Force Five much?

Exciting Tarantino-film-fact: The Deadly Viper Squad in Kill Bill appear to be Fox Force Five.

Also, well, no.

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Hope it's good.

Also hope if it is that it's not cancelled in about twelve episodes time. Oh ho!

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Also hope if it is that it's not cancelled in about twelve episodes time. Oh ho!

Don't. It still hurts. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Dollhouse
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Place your bets now on how long Dollhouse lasts. I'm going for 13 episodes filmed, nine shown.


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Seriously, fucking ban the cunt.

You can't go around saying shit like that.


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Ban this sick filth by Rapist Whedon.


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Firefly was shit!


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BBC Announcer Voice: "And now for a Banorama special, 'Kalmar'."

"There may be strong language from the beginning."

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In Dollhouse, Eliza Dushku ...


That's all I needed to know.

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Ban this sick filth by Rapist Whedon.
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 Post subject: Re: Dollhouse
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Firefly was shit!

Gff, pfffft, *bluster*, gack!

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The mods have dealt with this appropriately. Kalmar has been erased, and a new personality imprinted onto his personage. Hopefully this one will be less wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Dollhouse
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I've watched the first episode, it was interesting. No laughs, it looks like it's trying to be quite a 'serious' action-thriller.
I get the feeling it's going to be complicated. Helo from BS:G is in it.

The episode was quite good, it entertained but didn't have that "shit this is going to be a classic" feeling that Serenity did. And that crazy woman who wrote about Wheedon being a rapist or whatever is going to do her nut when she sees this (I'll come back to this later).

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I've watched the first episode, it was interesting. No laughs, it looks like it's trying to be quite a 'serious' action-thriller.
I get the feeling it's going to be complicated. Helo from BS:G is in it.

The episode was quite good, it entertained but didn't have that "shit this is going to be a classic" feeling that Serenity did.

This, exactly. It's OK, but at the moment it's just Le Femme Nikita (the series) without the interesting characters and with a few nice flourishes.

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 Post subject: Re: Dollhouse
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For 10 minutes I was wondering when it would start. For about 30 minutes I was thinking this a terrible boring misfire. For the final 10 minutes I was thinking it was pretty interesting and exciting.

The last 10 minutes save it. Just. It's hopefully going to get properly going now it's established its scenario. Good performance from Eliza.

It's got thingy from Journeyman in it as well. Which is a series I'd forgotten about until seeing Dollhouse but was really good.

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Also I think as a tribute to Gary Numan they should retitle the series 'A Game Called Echo'

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Here is the episode, chums - direct download or stream: http://www.fullonrobotchubby.co.uk/random/Dollhouse.avi

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 Post subject: Re: Dollhouse By Sir Joss of Whee-don
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A Game Called Echo, Episode 2 review

A little bit more interesting but the script is still pretty awful and the acting very stilted. Eliza Dhusku is still hott.

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Thanks Grim... Downloadified.
Shall be watching this tomorrow - but not holding my breath much, given Firefly.


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... and Alien 4.

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I didn't actually think Alien Resurrection was that bad, compared to Alien3.

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It was a great film, up until the 'mummy-cuddles' bit.

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Yeah.

That and the Quadrilogy version of 3 is a much-improved film. Fucking executives.

Wait, which is the mummy-cuddles bit? When she jumps into the nest is where my patience wears thin, it's pretty much all mummy-cuddles from that point on.


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Wait, which is the mummy-cuddles bit? When she jumps into the nest is where my patience wears thin, it's pretty much all mummy-cuddles from that point on.


Yeah, that's what I meant.

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Yeah, I saw Alien Resurrection again recently and was surprised how decent the first half of it was.

Helped that it had the mighty Michael Wincott - the gravelly-voiced psychopath's gravelly-voiced psychopath - in it, obviously.

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A Game Called Echo Episode 3 - It's still both simultaneously boring and interesting at the same time. Looks like I'm going to continue watching, like an idiots.

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I loved it again - exactly the sort of Fox-pleasing episodes he has to do, to keep it on air, epic swathes of toned, glistening ladyflesh throughout and a steady rate of plot development. The viscera hs also been kept in. Good skills.


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I think it's great, it's got an interesting feel to it, Lynch-lite or something. The acting isn't bad, it's good to watch. Every review I've seen goes on about how preposterous the plot is, but.. it's scifi, right.

And it's not even that preposterous. If that technology existed, why wouldn't it get used to keep a library of "specialists" on tap like that, morality aside?


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Joss can be quite variable. This seems closer to pish like Angel and Alien 4 and less like Serenity and Buffy.

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Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

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Alien 4 I enjoy quite a bit but Angel was terribly after halfway through season 2. Seasons 4 and 6 of Buffy were dreadful too.

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The truth about Buffy: It was good until the season long plot arcs came in. Monster of the Week episodes were much better.

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Every time I come back to this place, the number of people claiming that Alien 4 wasn't an embarassing pile of shit increases instead of decreasing.

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See also: X-Files.


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Angel wasn't meant to be at all like Buffy, though. Buffy was a post modern allegory of growing up, whereas Angel was quite obviously modernist take on film noir.

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