Football Violence Films

Derek The Halls · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3742

Lately I've been asked several times a day at my stall for Rise of the Footsoldier. I have never had much in the way of interest in this film and didn't know what it was about. Looking it up on imdb I now discover it's another in a long line of football violence films. These have always been EXTREMELY popular here. So now it makes sense as to why it crops up so often.

Any ideas why people like them so much?

MaliA · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:11

The Football Factory is fucking ace.

And it keeps Danny Dyer in Stella and Embassy.

WTB · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 14497

I'd drop a bomb on the lot of them. Cunts.

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

It's because football is the biggest sport in the country, and a surprising amount of people who watch football romanticise hooliganism. Some people I know do it. Some of it is due to a misguided and inflated sense of fraternity with one's fellow supporters, but also related to perhaps recapturing a 'warrior spirit' that has long since been lost.

In other words, they want to feel like part of an army, but without the risk of suicide bombs.

It's sad.

GazChap · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:18

It's because deep down everyone wants to bludgeon Manchester United fans to death.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12340

If it's already been committed to film then it makes it socially acceptable.

"You want to see a group of thugs beating someone to within inches of their life because they're from a different town?"

"Oh, yeah, but it's alright. It's a film, innit?"

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

GazChap wrote:

It's because deep down everyone wants to bludgeon Manchester United fans to death.

What do you mean 'deep down'?

GovernmentYard · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5318

I'm not excusing this sort of thing for a moment, can't stand it, but understanding it is a different matter. New Model Army summed this up brilliantly in thier song 'Over the Wire'

Quote:

Behind all the rusting cranes, in the lengthening shadows of the Empire days
there's a world that waits, but it's not needed.
In the teeming rows behind the goal - yelling for blood on the pitch below;
where does all the passion go when it's not needed?
Over the wire, and into the darkness . . .
Come evangelists of the Grand New Age proclaiming the future that they stole,
condemning the things they can't control - just like the priests before;
and now I can hear them call - the ghosts of the 1914-18 war
Where do all the innocents go when they're not needed?
Over the wire and into the darkness . . .
And the dawn it will come like blood across the sky,
Not the way that you think, not the way that you dream
In the silence of God, in the fullness of time,
like blood across the sky - the dawn it will come - the dawn it will come.
All still, like the pitshafts and the two-mile-down where they buried their hearts;
where does all the loyalty go when it's not needed?
In the plastic seats behind the goal yelling for blood on the pitch below;
where does all the passion go when it's not needed?
Over the wire and into the darkness . . .

Runcle · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 15:45

MaliA wrote:

The Football Factory is fucking ace.

And it keeps Danny Dyer in Stella and Embassy.

Hes nothing on Danny Dire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBnW-hCS1RM

myp · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 16:44

GazChap wrote:

It's because deep down everyone wants to bludgeon Manchester United fans to death.

They're like terrorists, though. You kill one and it makes another ten. Just playing Fifa online every Wednesday has proved that to me.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:26

Runcle wrote:

MaliA wrote:

The Football Factory is fucking ace.

And it keeps Danny Dyer in Stella and Embassy.

Hes nothing on Danny Dire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBnW-hCS1RM

Heh.

Quote:

Are you gonna sit in some poxy office with a cunt for a boss telling you what to do as you count your pennies trying to make ends meet in a country that's sinking into strikes and wars and at the end of the day you go home to your cosy little flat in 'nowheresville' and pull your IKEA curtains shut to hide from the big bad world and pretend it's not happening? Or are you gonna stand up and be counted, make a difference and feel the rush? Just for once say "fuck it". I'm coiled up like a spring and I'm ready to burst and wanking ain't doing it anymore. I need violence to make me feel I'm still alive. I know what I'd rather do, mate. Tottenham away. Love it!

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:48

I think football violence is a bit like rubbernecking as you go past a car accident. You don't want to be involved, but it's morbidly fascinating to see what goes on.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:54

myp wrote:

I think football violence is a bit like rubbernecking as you go past a car accident. You don't want to be involved, but it's morbidly fascinating to see what goes on.

Blucey · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2075

I read Cass Penant's book (West Ham hooligan bloke, subject of a new film).

It was effectively this.

'We went to (insert town) to play (insert team). Even though they had (insert huge number) fans and we only had (divide previous number by 20) we ran them up and down the high street all day'.

Imagine that but written as badly as possible.

The romantic view of it all is that the hoolies are all accountants, estate agents etc who do it as a release but really it's just pricks who want to be part of a gang.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:02

Bluce_Ree wrote:

The romantic view of it all is that the hoolies are all accountants, estate agents etc who do it as a release but really it's just pricks who want to be part of a gang.

There was, fairly recently, the conviction of five or six people, who all had more than slightly white collar jobs.

But buggared if I can find the story right now.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16641

I think what I hate about these sorts of films is that they invariably have some central character who the director intends that you should identify with, someone who is somehow caught up in football violence. Now this trick might work with films that have gang violence as their theme because to an extent involvement in that is almost an inevitability to people born in certain places but football hooligans to a man are just a bunch of fucking cunts who chose to go fighting on Saturdays for fun. So films about football violence are somewhat ruined for me by my wanting them all to die.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:22

I thought Green Street was done quite well.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:22

markg wrote:

I think what I hate about these sorts of films is that they invariably have some central character who the director intends that you should identify with, someone who is somehow caught up in football violence. Now this trick might work with films that have gang violence as their theme because to an extent involvement in that is almost an inevitability to people born in certain places but football hooligans to a man are just a bunch of fucking cunts who chose to go fighting on Saturdays for fun. So films about football violence are somewhat ruined for me by my wanting them all to die.

Are you a fucking poof, or soemthing? You cunt! I'll cut you first.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:01

myp wrote:

I think football violence is a bit like rubbernecking as you go past a car accident. You don't want to be involved, but it's morbidly fascinating to see what goes on.

Is that Ronaldo-based football violence?

I'm not really into these films, but 'ID' did it well. They'd completed changed the premise by the fourth film in the series though.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:40

myp wrote:

I think football violence is a bit like rubbernecking as you go past a car accident. You don't want to be involved, but they both give me heaps of wank material.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 18:06

Curiosity wrote:

I'm not really into these films, but 'ID' did it well. They'd completed changed the premise by the fourth film in the series though.

I feel that my joke did not get appreciated enough this morning.

Please validate me by posting an appropriate Dimlie.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

I don't get it.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 18:09

I would, but there isn't one for two thumbs down.

Wullie · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 6183

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