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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 16:02 
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If I believed in New Year's resolutions, mine for 2009 would probably be 'write more'. So despite not knowing much at all about blogging, I've started a blog. I realise that another amateurish blog is surely the last thing the world needs, but I'm hoping some of you successful writer types will be able to advise me on how to make it not rubbish. I'm assuming the most important principles are:

a) Update regularly
b) Link lots and widely
c) Don't waffle on too self-indulgently

But beyond that, I really don't know what I'm doing, and so would appreciate any and all advice, or even feedback.

And I apologise for starting a new thread like this- I thought I remembered seeing a Beex blog roll a while ago and would have posted this there, but I wasn't able to find it using the search. If a mod wants to move/delete this as appropriate I promise not to get too up-in-arms about it.

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You go to wordpress and make an account. :bulb:

This, and more problems solved, in "Ask Aunty Ace".

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Can this be in blog form?

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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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I too am going to do this, but in my case it will be to restart after a 4 year haitus. But my, how the internet has changed in those 4 years that it will be like starting from scratch. My plans involve evolving the site too.

I'm going to start with static html, and then relearn css and javascript, and then learn php and mysql too. Possibly ending with wordpress or keeping my own system (although I'm confident I can do the front end, I'm not so sure about the back end and have been told to just use wordpress as it's so powerful)

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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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I'm going to start with static html, and then relearn css and javascript, and then learn php and mysql too. Possibly ending with wordpress or keeping my own system (although I'm confident I can do the front end, I'm not so sure about the back end and have been told to just use wordpress as it's so powerful)
Oh god, definitely don't write your own blogging software unless you really, really want to write something from scratch for some reason. You'll get plenty of practice doing CSS/HTML from a Wordpress theme, and plenty of PHP practice if you write some Wordpress plugins, and meanwhile you won't be struggling to reinvent the wheel.


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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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Spinglo All The Way! wrote:
I'm going to start with static html, and then relearn css and javascript, and then learn php and mysql too. Possibly ending with wordpress or keeping my own system (although I'm confident I can do the front end, I'm not so sure about the back end and have been told to just use wordpress as it's so powerful)
Oh god, definitely don't write your own blogging software unless you really, really want to write something from scratch for some reason. You'll get plenty of practice doing CSS/HTML from a Wordpress theme, and plenty of PHP practice if you write some Wordpress plugins, and meanwhile you won't be struggling to reinvent the wheel.



That's exactly what my mate said. But I've had a mambo site before, (and used nevile and phpnuke) and sort of felt that it wasn't mine. Part of me wants to learn how to do it from scratch, and then switch to wordpress or if somehow I've managed to get something brilliant just stick with that.

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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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I've tried prototyping a replacement mrdictionary.net in Wordpress. Something as simple as reordering the links in a side menu IS STILL BEYOND ITS POWER. NNNG.

Wordpress is good at being Wordpress. If you want to do something a bit more than what Wordpress does, do not use Wordpress.

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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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I just read the first post. If you'd simply like somewhere to put your reviews where people will read them, and you don't have bastards running the show, I'd be more than happy to let you review for SavyGamer. I can probably hook you up with the odd review copy of games for your trouble too.

I can't pay you, but if you are interested, let me know via PM.

Other than that, I would recommend looking into Feedburner for RSS, google Analytics for Analytics, Digg for traffic, and Technorati for networking.

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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 23:24 
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I'm just on Blogspot.com

http://katsramblesthroughlife.blogspot.com

You can do various things on there and change the background and most things are compatible with Blogspot.com so you can do add-ons and stuff so that may be a good thing to look at :)


EDIT: Just realised you ARE on blogspot-ignore this message :)

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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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Thank you very much Mr P for the useful links and suggestions, and I very much welcome your offer to let me have a go reviewing for you. A PM has been sent.

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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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OK, so I'm messing around with WordPress and I'm following some tutorial on the web on how to create templates (it's a very ABC tutorial, but I've been away so long that I feel I need this a bit) and I've come across a bit of a snag very early on.

The tutorial has told me to type this:

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<a href=”<?php bloginfo('url'); ?>”><?php bloginfo('name'); ?></a>


obviously this should generate a link where I click on my blogname and it takes me to my blog url.

What I actually get in the url part is this:
Code:
http://website.com/%EF%BF%BDhttp://website.com%EF%BF%BD


however when I do a:
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<?php bloginfo('url'); ?>
on it's own it just gives me
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http://www.website.com


where is it picking up the funny squiggles from?

Anyone have any ideas?

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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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%EF%BF%BD


those appear as question marks in a diamond

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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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Oh and just to add they are appearing on all links ie when I do this:

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<a href=”<?php the_permalink(); ?>”><?php the_title(); ?></a>


the url is:

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http://www.website.com/%EF%BF%BDhttp://www.website.com/?p=4%EF%BF%BD

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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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Bit of a shot in the dark but try putting this in the <head> bit:

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<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">


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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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tossrStu wrote:
Bit of a shot in the dark but try putting this in the <head> bit:

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<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">


atm I'm using:

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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="<?php bloginfo('html_type'); ?>; charset=<?php bloginfo('charset'); ?>" />   

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Actually, I think I was barking up the wrong tree. Leave it as it is for the moment!

Looking at this code:

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<a href=”<?php bloginfo('url'); ?>”><?php bloginfo('name'); ?></a>


You've got funny-looking speech marks. Replace them with regular ones (") and see what happens.


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Just had a look at a different theme (the calssic one that comes with it) and for the same thing they are using

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<a href="<?php bloginfo('url'); ?>/"><?php bloginfo('name'); ?></a>


and
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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="<?php bloginfo('html_type'); ?>; charset=<?php bloginfo('charset'); ?>" />


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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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tossrStu wrote:
Actually, I think I was barking up the wrong tree. Leave it as it is for the moment!

Looking at this code:

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<a href=”<?php bloginfo('url'); ?>”><?php bloginfo('name'); ?></a>


You've got funny-looking speech marks. Replace them with regular ones (") and see what happens.



ah so I have, that's what I get for copy/pasting (I had the same issue with the single quotes too, which I spotted and fixed) Thanks a lot.

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 Post subject: Re: How to start a blog
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Yeah Baby, that's done it. Thanks so much tossrStu

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Malc, this guide was invaluable for me when designing a Wordpress theme from the ground up:

http://www.wpdesigner.com/2007/02/19/so ... hemes-huh/

It basically tells you what all of those Wordpress codes do and why they do it. Gives you a bit more understanding of the way it works i you fancy it.

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Thanks Mr Russell, Only just noticed this now. That was indeed the tutorial I was using...

I have another question, about nested div tags and how to nest them. Please see attached image.

Now, imagine the black bit is the whole page, the red bit is a <div> with a fixed width, centered on the black bit. Then imagine the blue, grey, green and yellow bits are <divs> that I want to position inside the first <div> All of them specific heights and widths, except the green one which will be a minimum height, but depending on what's inside it will grow as needed, but still a fixed width.

In the past I would have done this with tables, but I understand this is a bit of a no no these days?

So what do I need to put in the CSS to make this work? I could do it all if I wanted them in a fixed place on the full screen, but am struggling to see how I can do it relative to a larger <div>

God I wish that I could remember all this stuff, it's been so long...

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The HTML:
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<body>
   <div id="red">
      <div id="blue">
         &nbsp;
      </div>
      <div id="grey">
         &nbsp;
      </div>
      <div id="green">
         &nbsp;
      </div>
      <div id="yellow">
         &nbsp;
      </div>
   </div>
</body>


The CSS:
Code:
#red { background: red; margin: 10px auto; width: 900px; }
#blue { background: blue; }
#grey { float: left; width: 200px; background: gray; }
#green { float: right; width: 700px; background: green; }
#yellow { clear: both; background: yellow; }


The problem you'll have here is that the green and grey backgrounds won't stretch down to where the yellow is, it'll stop where the content in each div stops. The only solution to that is to create a background image that is the grey and green on a 900x1 pixel image (200px of gray and 700px of green) and then apply that as a background-image to the #red div, with a repeat-y setting, like so:

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#red { background: red; margin: 10px auto; width: 900px; background-image: url(background.gif); background-repeat: repeat-y; }



//edit: Added non-breaking spaces to the divs so that the browser actually renders them.


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That's pretty much what I've tried, apart from the float., I don't need to worry too much about the height of the middle two divs.

I'll give that a try, thanks.

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Floats are your friend.

I'm actually doing a site at the minute that has so many columns and rows that I've given up on the CSS, and gone back to tables with rowspan and colspan.

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That's what I'm used to using. managed to get it all working in the end. I'm getting their slowly and surely at the moment. If I thought people were interested and wouldn't laugh, I'd share the url.

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Do it. Because then we can also help you cross browser test your site. Plus, when I wanted a critique about my site, advice about padding and stuff was invaluable because I had site blindness by that point.

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Mr Russell wrote:
I'm actually doing a site at the minute that has so many columns and rows that I've given up on the CSS, and gone back to tables with rowspan and colspan.

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Mr Russell wrote:
I'm actually doing a site at the minute that has so many columns and rows that I've given up on the CSS, and gone back to tables with rowspan and colspan.

*smacks Mr Russell around the head with a copy of my book*


Be a dear and code the following pic up into divs then would you? ;) It's baffled me.

To be fair, the only web book I own is HTML For The World Wide Web 4.

I can do a three column layout, but doing that three column layout inside a two column layout has killed me, so it's a table in the middle of it all.


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OK, as you asked for it, please bare in mind it's no where no finished and it's barely even started really.

http://wp.strangeuniverse.org/

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You are obviously still working on it, but a good way to tell if you're making mistakes as you go along is to continually send it to the W3C validator http://validator.w3.org/check

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this is the footer
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It picks up stuff like this.

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That's not in my php files anywhere...

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hmmm

I think my sites down.

BEEX flood has killed my host!

Hmm, FTP works, and the main site works (and really oddly http://www.strangeuniverse.org works fine!)

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Unles maybe your latest change hasn't propagated to my ISP yet. It is a shit ISP.

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viewing the source shows me the same thing.

I think it's the tag cloud widget causing the problem.

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Ah, my mistake, the problem was with my code, hidden away in one of my included files.

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Blog... ehhh?

I'm tempted to make one myself, using Wordpress, with lots of wibble. Hmm. :)

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Post up again when you've finished going through that tutorial Malc, I'll be happy to assist if I can.

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Mr Russell wrote:
Post up again when you've finished going through that tutorial Malc, I'll be happy to assist if I can.


Oh, I've done the tutorial already. This is me taking what I did there, and changing it to more what I want. (but starting from scratch)

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Malc wrote:
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Post up again when you've finished going through that tutorial Malc, I'll be happy to assist if I can.


Oh, I've done the tutorial already. This is me taking what I did there, and changing it to more what I want. (but starting from scratch)

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I see it has improved already since this afternoon! Very nice layout so far.

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I'm basing it on the memory of a site I created about 6 years ago, that I can't find any traces off online or on this PC (I'm pretty sure I have a copy of it on one of my old HD's lying around somewhere but it's not easy to get to at the moment)

which used a .js with a load of defines and arrays as a database. But I had different colour schemes for different sections, and unless I don't use the widgets, I can't see how I can do that this time with WP.

Oh and thanks for the compliments,

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You could wrap various bits of your code in different divs and define different colour schemes for each div?

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Nah, it's not that, the links (including the links in the navigation bar) were different colours depending on what category they were pointing too.

Now, obviously if I manually create the navbar then I can do that quite easily, but if I'm using the widgets I can't see how I can.

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If you check the source for your live page, you'll see that Wordpress will create a few unique ids for you for various links, so it's still possible to an extent.

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I'll see what I can achieve with it (when I'm closer to setting it up how I want it)

Thanks for the tips

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You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
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RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC. RIP, Dimmers.

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