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 Post subject: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 13:07 
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http://www.snappygamer.com/2008/10/16/b ... of-dreams/

Seems someone has already completed the PS3 version and unlocked a trailer for BioShock 2 :o


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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I'm moderately excited about this. Though not exactly surprised, tbh.

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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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I'm moderately excited about this. Though not exactly surprised, tbh.


a sequels been confirmed for a while but theres been no details.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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I can't think of a game that less needs a sequel story wise. But I did love the first. So i'm conflicted.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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They were talking about a prequel, weren't they? Putting "2" in the title seems a bit daft if that's what it is though.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Hopefully, Bioshock 2 will simply be a handy short hand (sounds like a crap criminal!) - as it came out after the first one. But yes, I have also heard word that (gah - my writing has become awful this afternoon) it will be a prequel.

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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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The big reveal is (amongst other things) a massive criticism of the do as you are told nature of games. Thats why the bit after sucked. Your eyes were opened to your chains, you cast them off, only to slap them back on and carry on doing what you are told.

A sequal to the game needs to address the criticisms the first game detailed or undermine the first game.

And thats going to be fucking hard, all I can think do, is set it just before the fall and let you be a citizen who does what ever you want... Grand Theft Rapture..

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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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doesnt look like a prequel from the video.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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doesnt look like a prequel from the video.
No. It looks to me more like (spoilers for end of Bioshock 1 -- should we spoiler that?)

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One of the Little Sisters rescued by the narrator returning to Rapture not long after the Good ending.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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There's a million 'joke' Bioshock 2 trailers on Youtube anyway.

Making it a prequel, set before Rapture went nuts, is the only logical thing they could do, really. If it was more of a proper adventure, excellent. Hell, if they made it 'Shenmue in Rapture' that would be great.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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There's a million 'joke' Bioshock 2 trailers on Youtube anyway.

Making it a prequel, set before Rapture went nuts, is the only logical thing they could do, really. If it was more of a proper adventure, excellent. Hell, if they made it 'Shenmue in Rapture' that would be great.


Are you alright? You made a post about Bioshock without mentioning the "GOD DAMN SPLOICERS".

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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Well, whenever the adverts for comedy on Paramount Comedy comes on, I always shout 'sponsored by Magner's OIRISH SPLOICER. GAWD DAMN SPLOICER.' if that's of any comfort.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Well, it was relevant when I posted about the Bioshock bargain at Zavvi and I don't like to see it go to waste.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Right, well, in light of it being a sequel, it's likely going to suck balls.

People are saying that the logo, covered as it is in barnacles, suggests it does indeed take place 'afterwards'... which suggests the ending (good) from the original is being retconned.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 15:00 
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Is this the main thread for bioshock 2? I've been avoiding pretty much all info about it.

anyway achievement list.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/bioshock-2/achievements/


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Runcle wrote:
Is this the main thread for bioshock 2? I've been avoiding pretty much all info about it.


Looks like it.

I'd forgotten about Bioshock 2, yet I'm definitely looking forward to it. Bioshock remains, I think, the only game I've ever completed twice back-to-back.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 15:28 
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I've still not completed Bioshock, I should go back to it. Although I think I would have to restart and I remember being quite scared playing the first one. So maybe I shouldn't play it tonight when I don't have Jen to protect me.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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It took a fair amount of persistence to get myself to sit down and complete the first one after starting it once and abandoning it.

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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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It took a fair amount of persistence to get myself to sit down and complete the first one after starting it once and abandoning it.


What didn't you like?


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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I didn't like it the first time around. No, that's not fair. I didn't find a hook the first time around. I got to the bit just after killing Dr Steinman. Luckily it improves a lot just after that section.

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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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I didn't like it the first time around. No, that's not fair. I didn't find a hook the first time around. I got to the bit just after killing Dr Steinman. Luckily it improves a lot just after that section.


The one thing I hated the first time around was finding my way around the place. I did a lot of backtracking, and the map was almost no use at all. It's quite repetitive, and drags a bit towards the end, but I completed Assassin's Creed.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Right, I will put this on when I get home and give it a try and see how much I can play before I get scared. Even though I'm tempted to go straight to bed so as tomorrow comes quicker so as I am one day closer to Christmas ;)


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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It's also the second-best looking game ever.

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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Jeez-oh it's as creepy as I remember. I'm being brave though. Well, not really since I've got every light in the house on and I've stopped playing to watch some South Park to lighten me up!


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Dimvinterblot wrote:
I didn't like it the first time around. No, that's not fair. I didn't find a hook the first time around. I got to the bit just after killing Dr Steinman. Luckily it improves a lot just after that section.

Does it? That's where I gave up.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 22:01 
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I'm going to search for the bioshock one thread because I'm stuck now.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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I did a quick google and found the help I needed with Bioshock last night, I just had to be a bit more patient before fighting things so I could get the reward!
Really enjoying this although I am playing it on easy because I only want to complete and get the story.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Oh, I also really like how the story of Rapture is mainly being told through the audio files you find and the atmosphere in the game is brilliant.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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PC Gamer previews it. There's apparently multiple Big Sisters who'll sporadically attack you. They are, it turns out, cack to fight, you just run backwards while blasting them with your guns and plasmids until they fall over.

The VitaChambers still respawn you, but baddies (like Big Daddies) now have time to heal while you're doing that, so you can no longer just send wave after wave of yourself at them until you suffocate them under a pile of your own corpses.

There's a big fat 'Boomer' style GAWD DAMN SPLOICER too. And a new Big Daddy with a ricket luncher (sic) who can also deposit mini turrets. You can hack these, or use the cyclone trap to hurl them at the ceiling.

PCG observes that the game just doesn't feel as amazing or special as the original. Quelle surprise!


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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My biggest problem with the original was the way that even the basic enemy grunts acted as Bullet sponges.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Not to mention the low resolution of the screen with it's annoying "I'll focus your eyes for you!" methods and generally feeling as if you're wandering around with huge gobs of eye smeg clogging up your vision.

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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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I'm playing the first one on easy because I had a vague memory of the bad guys taking a lot of damage before dying the first time I started it. My memory may be playing tricks on me (or I may just be better at games) but it seems like the difference between easy and medium is quite large. I am killing things incredibly easily and have a good supply of cash, health and eve. I may be detracting from the tension a wee bit but I'd rather just get it done and know the story but still play the game.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Easy is for wusses*

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I rarely play on easy - the only game I can think of off the top of my head is Metal Arms: Glitch in the system, which had some ridiculous game halting spikes in it, but the rest of teh game was so good I restarted it on easy, played it through and then replayed it immediately after on Normal.

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It's not. It's really not.

Normal was okish. Hard was pretty hateful in the amount of ammo required.


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I had tons and tons of ammo for most of the game playing on Normal. Hoarding stuff and powering up the wrench helped a lot.


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Prior to me and myp struggling royally on K&L and dropping down to easy, the only other game I've played on easy was the second half of Half Life 2: Episode 2. I was achievement hunting and finding the "throw helicopter's missiles back at it till it deaded WITHOUT MISSING EVUH" a bit hard on normal, so I switched down then forgot to switch it back after :facepalm:

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Yeah, I had ammo coming out of the wazoo in the latter stages of normal. And that's not where ammo comes from. It was very painful.

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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Yeah, I had ammo coming out of the wazoo in the latter stages of normal. And that's not where ammo comes from.
I dunno, out of all the people I know, you're second most likely to own a Turd Cannon.


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The only other game I've played on easy was Mass Effect and that's because I was working 12 hour shifts at the time so wasn't really capable of much. I usually play on at least normal but i know I don't have the proper amount of time to give this game and I want to get it finished before Christmas.
Also, we have had the gaming difficulty conversation before. I can't remember what exactly was said but I won.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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The enemies in Bioshock are rather tough until you sick your camera on them.

With their POWER ESSENCE TRANSFIXED IN SILVER HALIDES, they're bizarrely weak.

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Mr Dave wrote:
My biggest problem with the original was the way that even the basic enemy grunts acted as Bullet sponges.


Yeah, towards the end it got ridiculous. Spliced or not, there's no way that cop's raincoat or that man's pinstripe suit is going to stop nearly two drums of Thompson ammo.

Towards the end of the game, I was trying to get the 'make x number of things at an invent-o-tron' and so every invent-o-tron had a huge pile of heat-seeking rockets (the easiest thing for me to make with my collection of junk) in front of it. I then realized I'd already gotten the achievement ages ago. :facepalm:


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Not to mention getting bored of hacking everything. Fucking Pipe Mania.

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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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What about Pipe Mania?

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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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Everything you hack makes you play a Pipe Mania minigame. And, on higher difficulty levels, it really is in your interest to hack every camera, security bot, turret, vending machine... so over half your total playtime is spent not belabouring GOD DAMN SPLOICERS about the head with a wrench, but playing fucking Pipe Dream to gain the benefits of hacked stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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I played on easy and have no regrets. Things were quite simple, sure, but I spent the game enjoying myself instead of worrying about ammo or having to hack everything judiciously. Some games lend themselves to easier difficulty levels, and I reckon Bioshock is one of them; the journey and setting were the fun, not the challenge.


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Bioshock on 'hard' isn't especially hard anyway. The 'one two punch' that Atlas teaches you at the very beginning remains the most sound tactic for the entire game. The enemies just absorb more bullets, that's all.


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Not long to go now.

I've barely read or seen anything about this, but I read a brief interview with someone talking about the story. I really, really hope it's good.


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 Post subject: Re: BioShock 2 Sea of Dreams
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I'm quite excited about the MP. It looks quite fun. Definitely won't be replacing any of the big players, though.


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