Be Excellent To Each Other

The reality is, of course, that this section is fucking irritating; is mechanically a bag of shit; adds nothing to the world building; adds nothing to the relationship between Cloud & Aerith and slows the pace to an emergency stop.

Adding upon those bullet points:

Before this section you have to lift Aerith up on a hand on two separate occasions. Each is time consuming and a time waste as the laboured animations of the hands unfolding and Aerith climbing aboard take forever with no input from the player.

Then when you get to this section, you can only drop Aerith & a container is the designated spaces so, like I do in the video, if you drop Aerith out the way but she’s in a spot that you want to drop the container you’d expecting her to fuck off or have a container smash her head in, but no she just stands in place like a moron and you have to sloooooooly move the container back to a spot; slooowly go back and get Aerith; slooooowly drop her; sloooowly grab a container etc etc. It’s just a tedious pile of shit.

And the hand placement doesn’t even make sense. If the hands were there to help the containers or other heavy goods through the tunnel system passing between sectors then how come there’s never any opposing hands on the side you’ve just come down? It’s always a sheer drop down down a ladder so you’d never get anything through the tunnel anyway.

And why must we repeat the same shit 3 times? it’s not like Cloud hasn’t demonstrated his willingness to help Aerith because he’s done the same thing twice already. And there’s no dialogue between all this shit to keep you entertained while you do the busy work. It’s the worse kind of time wasting. The fucking pointless kind.

And eight minutes of this shit is utterly indefensible. If they wanted to make the journey longer, let me smack shit in the face for a bit. If they wanted to build the relationship have something meaningful take place or have some conversation during this nonsense. If they wanted to build the world have some dialogue about the world between these boring sections. No one could, in their right mind, play this bit and think yeah that needed to be there.

So, no, it’s not me.

I don’t know which is best. All of Sylvando In Dragons Quest XI or that dance off.

Up to chapter 15 and I’m well into this. It’s got problems of course, but the story of the plate is pretty good.

The anime dialogue is annoying, and Cloud himself is about as interesting now as when the game started. He’s stopped saying “I’m only in it for the money” so his ‘arc’ is more of a 90 degree turn.

The whole plate thing was pretty darn cool I reckon. Shame about the dead people on the way up dying from no visible wounds and yabbering away like only anime characters do before they die. It’s all pretty cliché, but I did enjoy that part of the story immensely. I’ve even settled nicely into a rhythm with the combat which still isn’t fantastic but it’s enjoyable enough. The lock-on isn’t though, which is stupidly fiddly but at least you can pause and then take a few seconds to actually find the area you want to hit.

If Remake only has part of the story, it’s intrigued me enough that I even might play the original game after all this is done. Kinda like reading the next book of Game of Thrones while you wait for the next season. Mind you, I’ve a feeling that this is going to go right up it’s own arse real soon...talk of The Ancients; ghosts; those flying things that aren’t ghosts that keep cropping up; Sephiroth turning up in headaches spouting utter bollocks; that Resident Evil facility section being a bit crap and a completely fucking random scene when the plate falls which has a cat in a crown which has never been seen before drop to his knees for some inexplicable reason. That last one was so fucking random it annoyed me intensely during this big climatic moment. I’m sure those who played the original probably spaffed in their underoos when cat with crown showed up, but after playing so many hours and having zero anamorphic cats or animals show up it was jarring.

It’s been quite good going in blind though. I honestly don’t know what’s going to happen next.

Ah, I somehow missed that you'd never played the original. I suspect there are definitely things in there that make less sense if you haven't.

I will say that the original story is great, but certainly not unacquainted with the interior of its own rectum.

Turns out you can use multiple items without accessing the menu time and time again. Hold L1 in the menu to use. Fucks sake. I found that out in a loading screen... turns out there’s even a tiny tiny icon in the tiny menu that says L1 multiuse or something like that. Lord knows how many hours I’ve been playing before I found that. Many hours. Thanks Final Fantasy 7 Remake.

This thread is such a roller coaster of emotions.

Vicariously experience the thrills of one man's highs and lows via the medium of FF7 Remake.

Hang on, Scar from The Lion King has joined the party and we’ve drifted back into Resident Evil territory; the shit parts in the labs that always happen at the end.

So I screwed up last night as I was playing this reasonably late and got to that dream monster at the end of Chapter 17. He was being a tanky shithead and I thought I'll just get to the end of this chapter and I'll save it and go to bed. It must be the end because this chapter has been going on for AGES. Mostly due to swapping back and forth between two parties and having to constantly run back and forth making telephone calls in the blandest way possible.

But no, it went all JEPG on me and this isn't the final boss - this guy you've never heard of, right up until now, is actually the final boss! Yawn. There's so may different villains in this game and most of them have very little to do beyond a cutscene where they show up for something inconsequential (well, to this story at least). Some sexy woman has two cutscenes, one of them is just her doing some experiment where she's using a bloke as a footstool.

And the tonal shifts are all over the place sometimes. I must be near the end of the game and all the stakes are on the table, yet there's a daft bit where some of our heroes get cornered by the baddies and there's about to be a MEGA EPIC BATTLE and it goes:

Baddie: "Who do you think you are?"
Barret: "I'm AVALANCHE!"
Aerith: "I run a flower shop!"
Dog "AND I'M A DOG *WOOF*"

My eyes rolled around so hard in my head I could hear them myself.

And people keep escaping too because ... reasons, I guess. People just run away across very long rooms while the heroes just stare and say "He's getting away" without moving a fucking muscle. ONE OF THEM HAS A GUN FOR AN ARM. Shoot that fucker.

What else? Oh yeah... spoilers for this:



And after all that, there was ANOTHER boss fight with a robot just to pad out this bloody huge chapter. And at no time would the bloody game let me save so I could go to bed.

THEN YOU'RE ON A BIKE AGAIN. JUST LET ME SAVE IT. In the end, enough was enough as another tanky robot boss fight turned up on the bikes and I could barely keep my eyes on. Not least because (a) good god, not another sodding bike ride, and (b) it was late. I just hope it autosaved around there somewhere because I can't be arsed to have Tilda fight another anaemic guy on a roof.

Tell me more about this wanting to be able to save your game thing.

/thinks back to the Bioshock Infinite thread.....

Also, you know, the original FF7 wasn't high art or anything. I played it through back in the day on PS1 and remember thinking even at the time it was rather hokum in some regards, but still a good fun game with likeable characters and some memorable moments.

I'd be lying if I said I could remember much of the original very clearly as it was a long time ago, but the remake 'felt' right to me in terms of its tone.

I’d say your complaints about save scumming are a bit different from having to replay a 5 minute section of a FPS to having to replay 3 boss fights taking 20 minutes each. It might have autosaved, mind, well, I hope so.

History begs to differ.

https://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/ ... &start=100

In fact, one of my primary complaints there is essentially the same as yours from last night.

That's one of my favourite bits (it was "local florist" and "lab rat dog", I think).

And your spoiler actually makes no real sense unless you've played the original, in which case it's a massive deal and things that are different between the original and the remake start to make sense and when you work it out it's breath-taking.

But, er, you'll feel none of that so, um...

Look how great it is!

I hear that this game is something like just the first 5 hours of the original. How longs that then? Is there much more to it?

Ended.



Ok, cool, I’ll play the next one.

Hahaha well this game ends about a third of the way into disc 1 of 3 soooo....

Shit. I didn’t realise that at all.

And how fucking stinghy are the trophies. Finished the game and not even a single silver or gold for the trouble? Silver needs all the fucking dresses, all quests and all music? And to get a gold you’ve got to play the whole fucking thing on hard? Cheap ass muthas

And I’ve just noticed it’s got a nice reversible inlay too. Game didn’t tell me shit.

Also turns out that the original Final Fantasy 7 is on Game Pass. I gave it a quick boot earlier to see what it looks like on my Xbox Series X: The Worlds Most Powerful Console.








Looks like dogshit.

That's not unreasonable, it's 20 years old

How many 240p screens would fit on a 4k display?

More than 4 I reckon

1080p on Xbox, apparently. I counted 12 pixels but then gave up. Those twelve made up the entirety of Clouds model.