New DS

devilman · **Posted:** Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:28

The Register wrote:

Nintendo has developed a new, feature-laden DS handheld console, according to a Japanese newspaper.

A report by Nikki Net stated that the latest model will sport an internal camera, music player and a larger screen. Improved wireless functionality was also mentioned.

A reference was made to using the console’s camera to play games, and there’s a possibility that a memory card slot will also be included for moving data between the handheld device and, say, the Wii.

The latest model hasn’t received a name yet, but the report also mentioned that Nintendo may unleash the new DS in Japan sometime before Christmas. It’s worth noting that the company already has a press conference scheduled for 2 October – the same day that Nokia’s Tube could be unveiled on.

It’s thought that the new DS will cost somewhere in the region of ¥20,000 (£105/$188/€130). A DS Lite already costs about ¥17,000 (£89/$160/€112) in Japan, suggesting the new version will be a 'premium'

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Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26100

CraigGrannell · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 1639

Urk.

I don't see the need for a new DS at all. The only thing in that list that makes sense is improved wireless, but that could easily enough be built into a revision, rather than a new model. The camera sounds dreadful—like the current console's mic. And a music player? Bleh. Short of Nintendo directly enabling external storage, that's simple impossible, and even if Nintendo does do this, I can't see many people jumping to it.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11898

It seems a little pointless tbh. if it only costs ~£15 more, it can't be that much of an improvement.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:39

Anyone want to buy a DS? LOLZ

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26100

CraigGrannell wrote:

Urk.

I don't see the need for a new DS at all. The only thing in that list that makes sense is improved wireless, but that could easily enough be built into a revision, rather than a new model. The camera sounds dreadful—like the current console's mic. And a music player? Bleh. Short of Nintendo directly enabling external storage, that's simple impossible, and even if Nintendo does do this, I can't see many people jumping to it.

It did say room for memory add-ons - probably SD cards if they want to make data transferrable to the wii. I don't know why they'd want to do that with the DS though, as there is already an easy wi-fi link between the two consoles.

Also, if there IS a camera, an SD card would make sense.

Actually, it makes more sense the more I think about it.

Working with my router's wi-fi would be a good thing as well. Stupid DS wi-fi.

No-wi-fi

Ian Osborne · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 424

CraigGrannell wrote:

Short of Nintendo directly enabling external storage, that's simple impossible, and even if Nintendo does do this, I can't see many people jumping to it.

Could it be a move to delegitimise R4-style carts? If so, I can't see it being very successful considering how many DS/DS Lites there are already out there.

Ian Osborne · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 424

Mimi wrote:

Working with my router's wi-fi would be a good thing as well. Stupid DS wi-fi.

What router do you use? Have you tried a firmware upgrade?

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Ian Osborne wrote:

Mimi wrote:

Working with my router's wi-fi would be a good thing as well. Stupid DS wi-fi.

What router do you use? Have you tried a firmware upgrade?

She's probably referring to the fact the DS doesn't support any security beyond WEP. While we're on the subject, the PSP only supports 802.11b, not g. Hello, 1997's IEEE called, they want their standards back.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26100

Ian Osborne wrote:

Mimi wrote:

Working with my router's wi-fi would be a good thing as well. Stupid DS wi-fi.

What router do you use? Have you tried a firmware upgrade?

It's a linksys wireless-G thingamabob. I love it (I bought it off someone on WoS, actually) and it has always worked perfectly, but my DS dislikes it. It works with everything else - the DS says it has the 'wrong kind' of security, or something. I blame the DS because my router works hard.

Bluecup · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 925

Ian Osborne wrote:

Mimi wrote:

Working with my router's wi-fi would be a good thing as well. Stupid DS wi-fi.

What router do you use? Have you tried a firmware upgrade?

The DS at the moment only does WEP, so any upgrades to this would be very welcome.

I still only have the original DS, now living on the girlfriend's side of the bed, so I would be very interested in an upgrade.

Ian Osborne · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 424

Mimi wrote:

It's a linksys wireless-G thingamabob. I love it (I bought it off someone on WoS, actually) and it has always worked perfectly, but my DS dislikes it. It works with everything else - the DS says it has the 'wrong kind' of security, or something. I blame the DS because my router works hard.

My Linksys worked with the DS, after a firmware upgrade. What model is your thingamabob? Also, are you using a security protocol other than WEP?

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26100

Ian Osborne wrote:

What model is your thingamabob?

It says WRT54G on it but I do not know if that is what you mean. It is the only number I can find. Ah yes, I goolised it. Itt looks liek this:

I like it because it looks like an alien house

Quote:

Also, are you using a security protocol other than WEP?

I have no idea whatsoever. Someone on WoS helped me to configure it very patiently and using small words, many moons ago. I have never 'fiddled' with it because if I lose my internet connection I would have no way of getting back on the internet to see what I had done wrong

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 29, 2008 13:00

I'll even throw in the case for free.

Sheepeh · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2320

Anyone using WEP to protect their wireless these days needs a smack. It's fundamentally broken.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Sheepeh wrote:

Anyone using WEP to protect their wireless these days needs a smack. It's fundamentally broken.

My router at home runs WEP because of DSs. I ran it unsecured for years!

devilman · **Posted:** Mon Sep 29, 2008 13:14

richardgaywood wrote:

Sheepeh wrote:

Anyone using WEP to protect their wireless these days needs a smack. It's fundamentally broken.

My router at home runs WEP because of DSs. I ran it unsecured for years!

Mine's set up with MAC Address filtering. Probably not ideal but does the job.

Sheepeh · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2320

richardgaywood wrote:

Sheepeh wrote:

Anyone using WEP to protect their wireless these days needs a smack. It's fundamentally broken.

My router at home runs WEP because of DSs. I ran it unsecured for years!

*smack*

*points Pringles tube in the vague direction of Gaywood's house*

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Sheepeh wrote:

*smack*

When I ran it unsecured, I lived in a big Edwardian house with large gardens. A warwalk with my iBook (known for strong reception) determined it didn't reach the road, the back alley, or any house beyond my immediate neighbours. The neighbours on one side were really nice and the ones on the other side in their 90s. All my machines on the network were appropriately secured anyway.

Now it's WEPped, and I can tell all my neighbours have their own wireless LANs. I think the days of using other people's networks are largely gone now.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 29, 2008 13:21

When Ange was house sharing a few years ago, her and her housemate ran their internet unsecured as they didn't know any better. When they finally did get it sorted, their next-door neighbours (students) knocked on the door asking if they could enable it again, as otherwise they'd have to go all the way to campus to use the internet.

I imagine you can guess the answer Ange gave them.

Ian Osborne · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 424

Mimi: There's a solution here...

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/sho ... d=25895107

It does sound like you're using WPA rather than WEP security. I certainly used my DS with a Linksys router much like the one in your picture (albeit with one aerial). I had to upgrade the firmware, but that was ages ago, so yours should be ready to roll straight off.

Joans · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8655

myoptika wrote:

When Ange was house sharing a few years ago, her and her housemate ran their internet unsecured as they didn't know any better. When they finally did get it sorted, their next-door neighbours (students) knocked on the door asking if they could enable it again, as otherwise they'd have to go all the way to campus to use the internet.

I imagine you can guess the answer Ange gave them.

Did she negotiate payment in wine?

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Ian Osborne wrote:

Mimi: There's a solution here...

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/sho ... d=25895107

It does sound like you're using WPA rather than WEP security. I certainly used my DS with a Linksys router much like the one in your picture (albeit with one aerial). I had to upgrade the firmware, but that was ages ago, so yours should be ready to roll straight off.

DO NOT DO THIS.

Unless you really like people using your internet, potentially to access sites you will be blamed for.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 29, 2008 13:32

Joans wrote:

myoptika wrote:

When Ange was house sharing a few years ago, her and her housemate ran their internet unsecured as they didn't know any better. When they finally did get it sorted, their next-door neighbours (students) knocked on the door asking if they could enable it again, as otherwise they'd have to go all the way to campus to use the internet.

I imagine you can guess the answer Ange gave them.

Did she negotiate payment in wine?

Two boxes of Pinot Grigio.

Ange · **Posted:** Mon Sep 29, 2008 13:34

Joans wrote:

myoptika wrote:

When Ange was house sharing a few years ago, her and her housemate ran their internet unsecured as they didn't know any better. When they finally did get it sorted, their next-door neighbours (students) knocked on the door asking if they could enable it again, as otherwise they'd have to go all the way to campus to use the internet.

I imagine you can guess the answer Ange gave them.

Did she negotiate payment in wine?

Oi!

I was actually going to ask for payment in cider but I thought they might be terrorists or want to download kiddy porn.

Joans · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8655

myoptika wrote:

Joans wrote:

myoptika wrote:

When Ange was house sharing a few years ago, her and her housemate ran their internet unsecured as they didn't know any better. When they finally did get it sorted, their next-door neighbours (students) knocked on the door asking if they could enable it again, as otherwise they'd have to go all the way to campus to use the internet.

I imagine you can guess the answer Ange gave them.

Did she negotiate payment in wine?

Two boxes of Pinot Grigio.

Per Hour?

Ange wrote:

Oi!

I was actually going to ask for payment in cider but I thought they might be terrorists or want to download kiddy porn.

Oh, er hi Ange, didn't see you there. :ninja:

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Sep 29, 2008 14:30

Dudley wrote:

DO NOT DO THIS.

Unless you really like people using your internet, potentially to access sites you will be blamed for.

If "people" do access sites you will be blamed for, having an unsecured wireless has actually got people off in the past.

Craig · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 1236

I can't see Ninetndo releasing a new DS apart from minor changes to the innards. I suspect it's a rumour put about by unscrupulous rivals in an attempt to stall Christmas sales.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12337

It would convicne me to upgrade from my DS Phat, due to the number of lites that would suddenly saturate the market.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Sep 29, 2008 23:57

If there is a way to make my DS Lite work with WPA security, awesome, tell me do. Please.

MrD · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2139

metalangel · **Posted:** Tue Sep 30, 2008 0:34

This is just it being further diluted to appease the sickening 'lifestyle' crowd who will just use it to play Brain Training and all those 'life coach' shovelware.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26100

I really like Brain Training :smug:

"Coriander, Coriander!" :DD

MrD · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2139

Bwoo. BWOO.

myp · **Posted:** Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:53

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BertyBasset · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 334

Apparently, this story originally came from a single, unreliable source, and has since been quoted on many sites, which is why many people believe it to be true.

Not saying it isn't, I just think it's doubtful.

I mean, who really wants a camera or music player on a portable games console these days when most of us have a mobile phone with these functions ?

Also, isn't the DS-Lite still selling rather well in it's current incarnation ? No need for Nintendo to relase an upgrade/sequel for quite a while yet as far as I can tell.

Let's just say, I'll believe this when I see it (and I don't expect to see it)....

MrD · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2139

I wouldn't have thought that this stuff would be much use unless the DS gets a capable metamenu like the 360 or PS3, which seems unlikely because it would take up a bit of memory, which the DS doesn't have... unless the DS-superdupe has a specially hardware virtualised DS? (Like the DS has a GBA?)

metalangel · **Posted:** Tue Sep 30, 2008 23:09

I've nearly worn the label off my Super Mario Advance 2 cart with my finger, due to it being a convenient place to rest while playing on my DS Lite.

Bluecup · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 925

Meet the DSi

http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives ... t-the-dsi/

I think I'm falling in love with DS all over again :luv:

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Really?

Summary of actual changes games will ever use.

"No GBA slot"
"Costs more"
"Cameras will ruin games as effectively as the mic does"

Bluecup · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 925

The idea of downloadable games on to onboard memory excite me. Also I don't have a DS Lite so it's time for me to upgrade anyway.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32624

Bluecup wrote:

The idea of downloadable games on to onboard memory excite me. Also I don't have a DS Lite so it's time for me to upgrade anyway.

I agree with both of these points. I got rid of my DSlite and would like a new one.

Bigger screen? Downloadable games? Pure win. No GBA slot? I don't care.

The DS could get a really good downloaded games market going. I'm really interested to see where that goes.

Scarysheep3000 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:48

Nintendo, you fuckers. I don't want to buy a 3rd DS.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Bluecup wrote:

The idea of downloadable games on to onboard memory excite me. Also I don't have a DS Lite so it's time for me to upgrade anyway.

I guess it makes a difference that the rest of us have had downloadable games onto onboard memory for a very long time

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 26100

Scarysheep3000 wrote:

Nintendo, you fuckers. I don't want to buy a 6th DS.

The sad truth of Mimi's DS history FTFY.

(Disclaimer: This is meant as a joke. This FTFY is not intended to upset, annoy, nor suggest that anyone's showering habits are perfectly normal)

CraigGrannell · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 1639

I posted on my blog about the changes. My summary was: "Overall, this announcement rates fairly highly on the game-o-scale. It’s not a Rhythm Tengoku of goodness, but more a Zoo Keeper where you’re forced to play Quest Mode against your wishes every 40 minutes."

Craig · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 1236

See, told you it was mere speculation.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

It's just occurred.

Guitar Hero won't work.

metalangel · **Posted:** Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:22

Nor will that pedometer health coach thing.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:24

Nor will GBA games!

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