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 Post subject: RIPA proves its worth
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 14:50 
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News that the first person jailed for the offence of not talking in a police interview has been judged no threat to national security and suffers from a mental condition associated with paranoia and a fear of authorities is unlikely to win RIPA Part III new supporters.
So, that civil liberty, innocence til proven guilty and right to silence, eh? >:( :'(


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 Post subject: Re: RIPA proves its worth
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 15:05 
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I guess part of the problem is that because encryption isn't routinely used, anything that appears in ciphertext is immediately marked as suspect.

But, yes, a horrible case resulting from a bad law.


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 Post subject: Re: RIPA proves its worth
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 15:12 
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I had something similar when they found my Games Workshop models in my suitcase when I was coming back from Las Vegas and they accused me of summoning daemons and witchcraft. I bitterly repented while being burned at the stake, let me tell you.

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 Post subject: Re: RIPA proves its worth
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 15:42 
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"There could be child pornography, there could be bomb-making recipes," said one detective.

"Unless you tell us we're never gonna know... What is anybody gonna think?"


And there fucking could be too! Jesus Christ, this man could have ANYTHING hidden in there, gaol is too good for him. Just kill him out right.

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 Post subject: Re: RIPA proves its worth
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 18:11 
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Well, the time to complain about this would be when they passed the law making it illegal to refuse to decrypt things that the police want to look at.

Oh, we did.

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 Post subject: Re: RIPA proves its worth
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 19:25 
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Apparently the new inspector at charl's place has literally said "If you see someone on a bike, stop them, and if they can't prove ownership there and then, have it and them."

An inspector. Who had to compete for the role.


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 Post subject: Re: RIPA proves its worth
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 19:44 
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They need a warrant, right? So, is it actually any different from refusing to let them into your house when they have a warrant, and being arrested for doing so?

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Apparently the new inspector at charl's place has literally said "If you see someone on a bike, stop them, and if they can't prove ownership there and then, have it and them."


I'd love one of them to nab him next time he's on a bike. Who on earth can prove ownership of a bike on the spot - unless they're riding it home from the shop?

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 Post subject: Re: RIPA proves its worth
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Exactly. I imagine it's enormously unlawful without suspicion - basically harassment and other forms of abuse of power. But now the official - and presumably authorised - position of at least one station on Merseyside.


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